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    Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 4:10pm

Can someone please recommend me some albums with the same riffing style as Opeth's Orchid? I've been looking for stuff that's like Orchid for a long while because I just really, really hate the rest of Opeth's catalogue.

What I'm specifically looking for: the riffing style, that sort of power metally/trad heavy twin guitar melody work, (think, say, the intro of "In Mist...") where both guitars are playing slightly different melodies or harmonies at the same time (counterpoints) as opposed to have one playing melodies and the other doing chords, yet with a certain rock 'n' roll sloppiness to it. Important that there's little to no tremolo picking and the riffs are never chunky or groovy, and that it has no dissonant black metal chords at all. Also that it has a dry, thin guitar tone. Also, and this is primordial, NO blast beats!

What I'm NOT looking for: stuff that's also melodic but is heavy on tremolo and blasts (Unanimated; literally any melodic black metal like Dissection, Dawn, Vinterland or Sacramentum), stuff that is just atmospheric but has nothing on the riffing style (Tiamat, Swallow the Sun, Saturnus, In Mourning, Vehemence, In The Woods...), basically nothing that has really big wall of sound riffs with huge chords or effects or whatever (literally any post-metal/shoegaze/blackgaze like Agalloch or Deafheaven), or bands that sound like Opeth (Scythe, Gwynbleidd, Asgaut). Also, Morningrise. Just no.

The albums I've found the closest thus far are:

·         Dreichmere - Dispair the Withered Shadows

·         Autumn Requiem - As I Beheld the Blazing Glory of the Rising Dawn

·         Ophthalamia - A Journey in Darkness, Via Dolorosa

·         Orphaned Land - El Norra Alila

·         Garden of Shadows - Oracle Moon

·         Autumnal Winds - Venerari Sacra Mysteria

·         All 3 Obsequiae releases

·         The first 4 Katatonia releases (Jhva Elohim Meth, Dance of December Souls, Brave Murder Day, For Funerals to Come)

·         Anathema - The Crestfallen EP

·         October Tide - Rain Without End

·         Ablaze my Sorrows - If Emotions Still Burn

·         Ceremonial Oath - Carpet

·         Ancient Ceremony - Under Moonlight we Kiss

·         The Morningside - The Wind, The Trees and The Shadows of The Past

·         Sorrows Lament - ... When I'm Gone

·         Atropos - Créature Chthonienne

·         Ethnocide - Tearful demo

·         Empyrium – A Wintersunset…

·         In Flames - Lunar Strain

·         Fall of the Leafe – Storm of the Autumnfall

I should also mention Amorphis, Dark Tranquility, Edge of Sanity, Asphodelus, Fatal Embrace, Rotting Christ, and Eucharist, who don't really sound like what I'm looking for, save the odd song. Thanks in advance!



Edited by Orchidphile69 - 03 Aug 2024 at 4:11pm
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They don't sound anything like Opeth circa Orchid but Wishbone Ash meet some of the criteria you mentioned. Check out their Argus album.

https://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/wishbone-ash/?ac=wishbone%20as
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wdym? That's exactly the sound I'm looking for! That is literally Orchid era Opeth. The only thing that's missing are the harsh vocals. 

There's plenty of hard rock bands with that dual guitar style, but I kind of wanted to imply that other than the riffs, it also had to be something in the extreme metal realm. Otherwise, I'm a huge fan of Wishbone Ash!
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Ne Obliviscaris
Barren Earth
In Mourning
Witherscape
Be'lakor
White Stones
Disillusion
Dark Suns
Orphaned Land
Tribulation
Hail Spirit Noir
Kathaarsys

Not all of them are favorites of mine, but at least some of them have similar sounds or similarities to Opeth.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nightfly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 6:03am
You might also like Wytch Hazel. Although relatively new they sound very nwobhm.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Orchidphile69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 9:30am
Hey, thanks for the recs, but you might want to read the post again. I said I don't like Opeth, and that I'm looking for stuff like their first album, Orchid. You also mentioned several bands that I already mentioned in my post as examples of what I'm not looking for so...
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That's some very specific requirements you've got there. I've been having a think but haven't come up with anything that might suit you.

The thing with Opeth is that they've always been quite the unique act; their sound evolving over time sure but I know very few acts who could be said to be truly like them even if that was what you wanted.

Hmm. I can't say for certain you'll find something that fits your desires here, but have you explored the artists the band has listed as influences at all? Mikael was very influenced not just by heavy metal but by 70s prog rock. 

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I'm always checking what Mikael has to recommend since he has a music taste very similar to mine. But that doesn't really shed much light into my search, honestly. Like, I already knew that Orchid was influenced by Thin Lizzy and Wishbone Ash, as well as Iron Maiden. I won't get much in the way of "extreme metal with dual guitars" listening to Comus or Camel.
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