Nevermore

Oh man I so wished they wouldn�t have released that last album and made This Godless... their testament instead. They would have went out on a high. I don�t see Nevermore ever being the Nevermore I love without Loomis. He is that unique factor that makes their music stand out above rest. Warrel Dane is one of my favorite vocalists, but his solo album and the latest Nevermore has shown that without the fierce guitar playing ( Loomis is too subdued on the last Nevermore album) of Loomis, Nevermore will probably not produce anything but mediocre to just above standard material from now. Please prove me wrong guys

Yep at least the instrumental part of their songs. Warrel writes the melody lines as far as I understand. Jim writes only smaller bits ( mostly intros like the one in the title track to Dead Heart...).

Yeah, Loomis is pretty much the band. I agree that without him they can never be the same.
Also Williams was a damn good drummer, and both original members. This has me so pissed.

You're right Jonas...they are going out in terrible fashion. Put out a mediocre (at best) album and now this. Even if Nevermore continues it just can't be the same....
: (

And really, we may never know but common sense makes me think the band's new direction had at least a part in the strife.
Gawd, I'm legit upset over this one


Edited by The Angry Scotsman - 23 Apr 2011 at 12:53am

I'll put it further,

"Williams" and Loomis were Nevermore.  Van Williams (again proved) was an OVERWHELMINGLY
underated Drummer and now in this case-Dane is just a Vocalist in a band that happens to be
Nevermore .

But this is probably why it happened (I put this up at "Thrash Metal Fans Unite!!!" as an update to a
post about our Love of Sanctuary and Nevermore):

This apparently was written when Nevermore's latest "The Obsidian Conspiracy" debuted, as a NEW
Sanctuary album is being made!
http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/06/30/less-is-nevermore-the-warrel-dane-interview/#more-38956

"Hey, speaking of the bass player and the music of your life, I am fuckin� psyched about this long-overdue Sanctuary reunion!

[laughs] Yeah, wait �til you hear some of the new stuff! I�ve got a song that I�ve been working on the last few days. It�s pretty frickin� cool.

You�re not joking right now? You�re already working on music?

No, I�m not joking at all! It sounds like Into The Mirror Black stuff, which obviously is the evolution of our sound. We�re going to really start rehearsing again and just [pauses] deal with it. It feels right for some reason. I know I said years ago that I wouldn�t do this. That was probably because most of us weren�t really friends. We didn�t talk to each other.

No shit!

No, the ending of that band was weird. It got kind of ugly at the end. Eventually, we grew up a little and started talking to each other again. Now, we�re in a place where we�re good friends again. Which is cool cuz we�re all different people now.

I had always thought that Len [Rutledge, Sanctuary guitarist] � He tried a couple bands after Sanctuary broke up, but then he kind of quit doing music. One day, it occurred to me that he�s too talented to not be doing something. I thought, maybe we should work on something together and see what happens. It happened very slowly. It�s a good feeling.

Hey, those Sanctuary albums were magic. You guys were on track to eventually contribute an undisputed classic album to the genre. Everybody knows that. But working with Dave Mustaine on the band�s first record must�ve been weird. How old were you even?

Oh my god. I was a kid. You know what, I have to tell you: I am going to go back and take more voice lessons before I even think about recording another Sanctuary record. I have to! I haven�t been using that aspect of my voice for years because in Nevermore, I don�t think it�s really appropriate. When you�re singing that way, you have to be consistent. And since you�re never too old to learn anything, why not go back and take lessons?

You challenged yourself on those records. No doubt about that.

Oh yeah."

Seems its probably all due to Williams and Loomis wanting him to be dedicated to Nevermore.
Just that these days, many bands and musicians work on side-Bands/Projects to keep creative,
keep the little money they make coming in and just to have a breather from routine.
I don't think Nevermore will be around anymore .

For me this isnt as bad as Portnoy and DT, but its a sad way to go out for Nevermore (And Judas
Priest losing KK Downing . . . what the hell is going on out there!?).



Edited by MAVIIIVAM - 21 Aug 2011 at 8:06pm

I am finding that . . .

"Blabbermouth" is the "Star" magazine of Metal, basically gossiping and spreading rumours and I dont
take them too seriously as a Journalistic Mag for serious Music infrormation.
They seem to twist words of the person Interviewed (even Portnoy mentioned them on the Eddie Trunk
show about their journalistic integrity).

I find it hard to believe that they kept Van Williams on since the beginning yet didnt get along with him :/.
He's a VERY underated Drummer and one of my faves.  Though I am VERY surprised he and Loomis
havent linked-up to create a powerhouse Band.

Heres Van Williams band, its not bad . . .


(From here you can checkout the other tracks)

See more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Williams_%28musician%29





Edited by MAVIIIVAM - 21 Aug 2011 at 8:08pm