Modern heavy metal SUCKS!

Everyone gets too hung up on genres.

^Yes, I realize. I'm just going on a tangent at this point. 

Vim Fuego wrote: So I was right... Sounds like Meshuggah, avoid.

Edited by Unitron - 12 Feb 2018 at 8:03pm

siLLy puPPy wrote: The word "djent" is an onomatopoeia coined by Fredrik Thordendal of Meshuggah for the medium-high gain, dissonant guitar tone the genre primarily utilizes. Textures, TesseracT, Xerath and most notably Meshuggah are good examples of Djent.

Vim Fuego wrote: keefer1970 wrote: I must be even more out of the loop than I thought. I don't even know what a "djent" is.  Not 100% on it myself. I read it as a synonym for "sounds like Meshuggah. Avoid."

I must be even more out of the loop than I thought. I don't even know what a "djent" is. 

Just watched it. He's all talk, no action. What has he done himself except criticize? Metal artists copy each other because there is money in it. Sometimes clones actually outperform the original inspiration although that's the exception. Part of the reason we hear so much mediocrity today is because EVERYONE can record their own shit in their bedroom with minimal expenses. Mixed blessing of course. Creative forces that never would've gotten the time of day can now be heard, however we have to find that tiny drop in a sea of crap. He says he wants to bring back speed metal and yet calling out copycatting for not being progressive. Sounds like he's in a creative slump as well and merely looking in the mirror when he spouts all this stuff. 

I enjoyed this video. I still spend about 96% of my music money on pre-1995 albums as I find the music really exciting. Heavy metal went through so many changes over its first two and a half decades. Recently the evolution has slowed down. Not as slow as pop mind you, but still things are not moving as quickly as they used to. This guy's explanation offers some reasons for why that evolution has lost pace. I don't know enough about modern metal to say whether or not he's totally right or way off the mark and I do enjoy a lot of modern albums. But it's true that music from the 60's through to the early eighties and maybe even nineties in the case of metal required a lot of innovation and ingenuity to get the music to sound as they musicians intended. If these days the goal is to get everyone to fit an easy mould then we are losing that spirit of adventure and innovation.

adg211288 wrote: I'll watch the video sometime today, but if I'm to guess at the sentiment being expressed I may have some similar feelings. I don't know much about grindcore but progressive metal (of which so called djent is often linked to), I've long felt is really stale in the last few years. I even wrote my first post of my MMA blog on this: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10879&title=adams-blog-1-progressive-metal This is not of course to say that there are not decent modern yet still traditional prog metal albums. I've had a few this year that I've loved like the new ones from Threshold, Caligula's Horse and of course Anubis Gate and Ayreon are pretty reliable. But I find most modern artists/releases to be labelled prog boring and sometimes not even deserving of the label.  Black metal on the other hand is in full creative swing making this a very exciting time to be a black metal fan. So it would definitely be inaccurate to say that all modern metal can be judged the same.

He's semi-correct on the grindcore thing. There are a lot of samey sounding bands using the same stupid vocals, but I'd say it's more a cliche in deathcore than grindcore, because there's a big variation across the grind spectrum.

I'm not watching the video since the title is so stupid and biased. Just a loss of time. Of course, nowadays there are a lot of stale and mediocre bands in every musical genre, but that doesn't mean that a genre sucks.

Djent and prog. Admittedly, there are many bands that copy each other and may sound boring, but there are lots of incredible and innovative bands who push forward the limits of metal (off the top of my head, Animals as Leaders, Angel Vivaldi, Paul Wardingham, Pomegranate Tiger, Outrun the Sunlight, Marty Friedman, and many many more...).

Grindcore. Just discovering this genre and, though it's quite hit-or-miss, I've come across excellent bands (especially grindcore and deathgrind)... Goregrind and pornogrind are not my cup of tea, but I don't think they suck just for that.


Edited by Sisslith - 26 Jan 2018 at 1:27am