MMA Best of Year 2019 Results |
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adg211288
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Nice to see our #1 also got a lot of love over your side. Would have been pretty awesome if we'd both voted the same album as #1, but pretty close is good too.
And damn you guys really need the tag by album feature the two newer sites have. It seems ridiculous that any Opeth from the last ten years is tagged as Tech/Extreme.
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Bosh66
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That’s an interesting list. Not heard the IQ release as my focus has been over here and I listen to far less prog than I used to, but I’ll need to pick that one up. A good few others I’d like to hear too.
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tapfret
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Just posted the Progarchives 2019 Collaborators top albums today. I definitely don't go as deep in the list for cover art or descriptions.
As usual a lot of crossover on the 2 lists. As a matter of fact, Waste of Space Orchestra is in the exact same #8 spot on both lists. |
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TheHeavyMetalCat
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Nice work everyone. Sorry that I did not take part this year. I guess I lost track of this place for quite a while. Glad to see you're still about.
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adg211288
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PM's would have gone out today if the site hadn't been down, so those will have to be forthcoming. For now, I'm pleased to announce a special follow-up event to this: The Best of the Decade 2010 - 2019!
Don't panic, we're running it until the end of June so you can spend as much time on your submissions. Further details may yet be announced/changed but we wanted to get this up as soon as possible.
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Unitron
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The US listings have the terms and shipping information laid out pretty clearly most of the time, maybe UK sellers are different, but you're pretty much safe as long as you go with a seller with a 99%-100% rating and also has many ratings.
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If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme
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adg211288
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I've used it a couple of times. Prices vary greatly. My previous experiences with it were a success and I got some better deals than Amazon or ebay could offer, but some listings tend to look a bit iffy. I'm not sure how regulated it is compared to ebay (as one example). Some sellers write listings in such a way that breaks UK law on distance selling and when you get that I just know if something does go wrong they are going to be a pain in the arse to deal with. So I don't bother. I've only used Discogs as such when all terms are laid out clearly and don't try to extort extra shipping for registered post by claiming they are not responsible for loss if only regular is paid for (sorry sellers, but you are responsible until that package arrives with the buyer regardless of what was paid for, not when you want to shirk it).
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Unitron
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Have you tried Discogs? That's what I use mainly when I can't find something at local record stores. I looked something up with the UK shipping prices for within the UK, and it doesn't look bad: https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/1055667848 (I know this probably isn't something you'd want, but just as an example)
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If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme
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adg211288
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Probably like business sellers based here they can set up an arrangement to send as many (or at least a very high volume) of packages for one set price. Individual (unsigned) artists cannot do that because they'd never sell enough (or even press enough copies) to make it worth it.
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Nightfly
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Not quite sure how they justify the high postage charges. It's clearly a means of charging more for the album in a lot of cases. For example All Your Music in the USA charge £1.26 postage for a CD on Amazon and they're still usually one of the cheapest on the CD itself so not bumping up the cost to cover shipping. If they can do it...
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adg211288
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I have bought a few physical copies from Bandcamp profiles but anything I've looked at lately has had the postage cost gone not just through the roof but into orbit. I bought both previous Wilderun albums from there (the second even came with a hand-written thank you note for the support) but when I looked at Veil of Imagination the cost was around that of a second CD. And that's the norm even when the band I look at is from the UK like Dark Forest.
I know that shipping from the States into the UK is quite expensive but I really can't afford to be doubling (or more) the price per album and that's before considering that the UK has a cap on the amount of money something is valued at before they wrack their own import fee on you (a few years ago it was almost another £10 and I can only imagine it's exceeded that now). If I'm not careful a single imported CD can suddenly set me back in excess of £30. So my habits for listening to music have changed greatly unless I can get something either cheap enough from the US (there's a few sellers that remain competitive but no chance direct from artist), in the UK itself or from within the EU (which for all I know is also going to be fucked up once our grace period is over - thanks a lot Brexiters). I did fork out for the pre-order of Mare Cognitum and Spectral Lore's upcoming split, around £20 with P&P but I don't mind so much because it is almost two hours long and another act would charge at least £12.99 for about forty minutes.
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Triceratopsoil
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I mostly buy albums on Bandcamp now
edit: digital copies that is Edited by Triceratopsoil - 21 Feb 2020 at 9:38am |
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adg211288
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Possibly but for the amount I use it it's not really worth it.
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Vim Fuego
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Can't you get deals for cheap or free Spotify Premium with your phone or anything? That's how I get mine, and I listen to it for 6-8 hours a day at work.
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adg211288
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I usually run it off my my TV to be honest. Sometimes on PC. The adverts don't bother me enough to be worried about any work around, though around Christmas I was ready to scream if I heard 'so here it is Merry Christmas' in the background of an ad one more time... I do miss the days when Ad-Block worked though. Ad-block's day is over. Too many websites can block the ad-blockers now. It became more trouble than it was worth. That's why these days I use Gener8 instead. I get a few non-intrusive ads and can earn money back for my own pocket with it.
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Unitron
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You can kind of get past the ads by using the web player and refreshing the page as soon as the first ad starts and after it reloads it won't play an ad. Not ideal like when adblock used to work with it, but refreshing works well enough for me as long as I'm not doing anything else while it's playing.
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If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme
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adg211288
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There's quite a few from last year that under earlier circumstances I might have bought but didn't because of one or two reasons:
1. Fucking expensive (Wilderun for example has never released their albums beyond their own store and import cost from US is horrendous now). 2. I don't own a CD player anymore so most of my music just ends up getting played digitally and I can do that for few on Spotify who have almost everyone I want if I just put up with a few adverts (and I've learned to). That said there are a few here I'd still like in my proper collection: Avatarium, Wilderun (seems a fat chance, but you know), Blood Incantation, Arch/Matheos, Nile, Waste of Space Orchestra... ah what am I saying, there's still hell of a lot I would like to own properly. But for now I have to put up with Spotify.
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Triceratopsoil
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Thanks for the hard work assembling this, Adam & Paul
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DippoMagoo
MMA Special Collaborator Power & Neo, Goth & Symph, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 31 Aug 2014 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3081 |
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I still heard quite a few awesome albums last year, as well. My thing is, I'm slowing down with my music, for almost entirely unrelated reasons. The biggest of which essentially boils down to: I'm in a living situation where I basically have to use headphones, and yet, using them for too long tends to make me sick. So, yeah, I kinda don't have a choice, unless I wanna literally torture myself.
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Nightfly
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I thought 2019 was still a great year. I bought at least 60 metal albums that I felt were good enought to splash out on.
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