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Vim Fuego
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adg211288
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From page 2 of RYM's chart, my unheard albums are as follows:
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adg211288
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I suppose in order of personal interest I feel I should know the following genres better, since they intrigue me the most and I only have a select few albums from each:
Stoner Metal (and Stoner Rock really) Sludge Metal Doom Metal (I know this best of these three, but I have a lot to hear) Genres I know some stuff about but not extensively: Thrash Metal (I'm always on power metal's team in the power v thrash war, but I do like to dabble in thrash every now and then) Viking Metal Folk Metal (you may find that hard to believe but most of my folk interest is within a set few bands) Speed Metal Avant-Garde Metal Gothic Metal Heavy Metal (there's a ton of classic heavy metal bands I've never listened to or certain key albums from those I have) Death Metal (same situation as Heavy to be honest. Got a fair bit of tech death, some melodic, but years my only normal DM album owned was Death's Leprosy) Genres I feel like I should force myself to try more: Alternative Metal (parent) Metalcore (+ subs though probably not Electronicore and Nintendocore) Grindcore As above but more apprehensive: Drone Metal Industrial Metal Neoclassical Metal Nu Metal (extensive rapping is a total deal breaker and occasional rapping a detraction - this is almost on the tier below) No interest: Rap Metal Funk Metal Glam Metal Trance Metal Now if anyone is the opposite of me and doesn't know much about Black, Power, Prog, USPM or Symphonic then I'm the one to talk to.
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Vim Fuego
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Highlighted bit is completely true. SOAD didn't have the stupid downtuning and simplistic riffs, had a singer that could actually sing, and occasionally got out of second gear. |
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Unitron
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I'll be the first to admit that my definitions of certain genres are different, especially when it comes to early metal. However, the thing is that nu metal was always about metal bands with different influences and their own unique take while sharing some common ground with others, so very few bands sound exactly alike. Plus there's the misconception that it has to have an influence of rap/hip hop (though I'd say SoaD has some influence), when not every band did. As for the common themes among most bands, SoaD shared the often idiosyncratic vocals, focus on syncopation and rhythm in the guitar, few guitar solos, among others. Example, these two songs share some of these similarities: Not looking to change anyone's opinion, but hopefully that maybe helps my reason make sense. I'd recommend checking out the first few metal albums from Die Krupps or Oomph! in regards to industrial metal, as they're pretty close in sound to Rammstein.
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MorniumGoatahl
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To be honest the difference between alt and nu back in the day was basically:
You like it = Alt You hate it = Nu Unless of course you were fully on the Nu bandwagon, then everything was Nu whether you liked a band or not.
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adg211288
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I'm pretty sure you have a different definition of nu metal to everyone else Khaliq. Back in the day when I was first discovering metal and those were the bands getting a lot of airplay and media coverage, SOAD were absolutely not included beyond being mentioned in the same breath for sharing the spotlight of the time. It's not revisionism. To be honest metal as a whole could actually do with a ton of revisionism and not just in the alt/nu metal department. The lines between heavy / power / uspm / speed and even thrash are far more blurred than they need to be.
I think the trouble with Nu is that many at the time didn't see it as a genre any different from its alt metal parent, instead thinking of it as a movement of popular alt metal bands (so I suppose by that definition you would have to include SOAD whether some like it or not) that had its day and died out, like the NWoBHM. Of course that's not actually true since you still get stuff tagged Nu released. RE: Industrial, it depends what it is. I can't say I'm super keen on the genre. I like a bit of Rammstein now and then but I don't play their stuff that often. My experience of the genre is limited beyond that but everything else I've tried has ended up low to mid rated.
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Unitron
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The funny thing is that System of a Down was nu metal in pretty much every way with their genre blending, heavy focus on groove and rhythm, and unique vocal variety, but since everyone liked them but hated nu metal historical revisionism called for taking that label away from them. Personally my favorite SoaD album is either Steal This Album! or Mesmerise, and that nu/folk metal album I posted here shares some similarities to SoaD in the vocal department. Edit: Open to trying any generally highly rated industrial metal?
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adg211288
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Oh I wish I could say it's only two, but that's just the first page.
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Bosh66
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Ooh I like a bit of drone myself. Toxicity is a good album but not my favourite SOAD release. Jane Doe (I assume that’s the Converge album?) is brilliant but not an easy listen. The fact that there’s two early Sabbath albums you’ve not heard (really?) should in a fair world result in you being dragged out of your bed and publicly stripped of your metalhead identity. Shame on you 😉
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adg211288
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At the moment the priority is trying things that are high rated but aren't normally something I'd listen to. I got Faith No More off the first page of RYM's overall metal chart. I'll be working my way through some of what's left as and when I feel like experimenting, though I can assure that the album ranked at number ten can just fuck right off. And probably number 29 as well. But I suppose the primary focus should instead be the two obvious omissions you're all going to frown at me for: Black Sabbath Vol 5 and Sabbath Blood Sabbath.
Of the alt metal stuff on there I'm open to Tool's Lateralus (I own Ænima and don't love it or dislike it) and System of a Down's Toxicity (perhaps the only band lumped into nu metal at the time (however incorrectly) that I didn't mind back in the day). Of the rest there's a Converge album which won't be my first for them either and an Agalloch album which is the same deal. The Boris album may get a track or two, but I'm most sceptical of drone metal out of all the genres I don't normally follow.
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Vim Fuego
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I have this only because I bought a 5 disc set. I wouldn't have bought it on it's own.
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UMUR
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Unitron
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If you're checking out things you ordinarily wouldn't, I'd be curious to see what you would think of this as you like folk metal: It's nu metal mixed with Romanian folk music (and Palinca is the only song with any sort of rapping on it which I know is a dealbreaker)
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adg211288
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Artist: Faith No More
Album: Angel Dust Verdict: This wasn't on my original list that I based this long neglected blog on, but I forced myself to try something I'd usually actively avoid. There is some interesting music here, but for the most part the vocals aren't my cup of tea at all. Still I'm glad to have challenged myself and tried something different. Would I Buy It? No.
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adg211288
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Artist: Dark Tranquillity
Album: The Gallery Verdict: I have a couple of other Dark Tranquillity albums that I got in a second hand shop one time (although with Gorod's Leading Vision which was the real gem of that haul). Both are solid, but not as good as this one. I'm not the biggest fan of melodic death metal, but when done right it can be some real fist pumping stuff. This is done right. Would I Buy It? Yes.
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adg211288
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Artist: Hannes Grossmann
Album: The Radial Covenant Verdict: A very solid prog/tech death metal release that's always competent and sometimes displays a flair for brilliance. An act to pursue more. Would I Buy It? Yes.
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^ One of those bands on the face of it I should Like but never really got into them or felt the urge to buy anything I've heard.
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adg211288
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Artist: Virgin Steele
Album: The Marriage of Heaven and Hell Part One Verdict: Virgin Steele is one of those bands I had a phase with, but have since soured a lot on. Possibly due to their more recent records sucking so much. This one is from their USPM period, which is their best period, and I actually own Part 2 of The Marriage of Heaven and Hell and have a high rating on it so obviously liked it at the time. This one seems merely OK though. Some excellent riffs here and there, but overall a very bloated 70 minute album. Would I Buy It? Maybe if it was a £1 or something.
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Unitron
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Yeah, all of the first three Pestilence albums are great, but Consuming Impulse is on a whole other level. Really emotionally and musically powerful stuff.
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