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Vim Fuego
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Posted: 15 Nov 2024 at 2:08pm |
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Yes and no. They were highly rated in their day for good reason. However, they were indecline before they split. The poor performances by Anselmo, the band's break-up, and the less than impressive post-Pantera music tarnished the reputation somewhat. They do get too much dickriding though.
Yep. And anyone saying "no Max/Cavaleras, no Sepultura" is a fucking idiot and has missed a shit-load of great music.
Gonna disagree, but I'm not a big black metal fan.
Yep.
Shitty people, but the occasional dose of pompous OTT power metal is fun.
Agree, but I don't reckon that's gatekeeping. It's more about being decent human beings.
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Vim Fuego
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No, but that's what I love about them.
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Bosh66
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Venom are a rubbish Motörhead parody act? Does anyone disagree with that? I remember the hype when they hit the scene and thought they were wank at the time 😉
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adg211288
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We don't care about necroposting here. Always good to see an old topic get a new lease of life.
I agree with some of yours, especially about Max Cavalera. I consider him one of metal's overrated figures, full stop.
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Wyvern_13
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Hope this doesnt count as necroposting, love me some hot takes. Here's a few.
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adg211288
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I'm adding a couple of mine from when this thread was first active:
Building off one of Kim's: Tim Owens was a fine singer for Iced Earth, just very different to Matt Barlow. That wasn't necessarily a bad thing. Also one of the worst things Iced Earth ever did was swapping singer back to Barlow in the middle of the Something Wicked duo, especially since they never made good on re-doing part 1 with Matt for continuity. But the first one was better anyway, so maybe that's just as well. There are more fantastic female singers in modern metal bands than there are male.
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adg211288
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Me too.
I quite like Jugulator, however I've not been able to really get into Demolition. Granted I own the former but not the latter thus have spent more time with it.
Probably not un unpopular opinion here since we're an open-minded bunch, but for the wider metal world I'll second that one. That said, never have been grabbed by glam metal myself.
Same. Tried a couple of times, with each vocalist. Never really dug them.
Wasn't Manowar always a bit of a joke?
Quite right.
It was my gateway to metal album, so I'll always have a fondness for it. And no it really isn't that bad, but it does have some glaring problems.
I think I'd agree, though I have a special liking for Leprosy. It was also the first straight death metal album I bought.
Agreed, but I think overall metal is very accepting. Don't forget that the singer of one of metal's most famous bands just happens to be gay. I also know of quite a few bands with black members, or trans people and there are more women playing (and into) metal than ever.
Preaching to the choir on this site, Kim. I'm not sure gothic metal has ever been up for debate the way those others have though.
I'm quite neglectful where Sabbath is concerned. I haven't even heard all the Ozzy or Dio fronted ones. Never a Martin one. However he has worked with Arjen Lucassen a couple of times and he's good.
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Psydye
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^ I definitely agree w/ some of those, in particular #'s 1, 5, 7, 10, 12, 13, and 14.
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Time Signature
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Unpopular opinon 1: I like Judas Priest's cover version of 'Johnny B. Goode'
Unpopular opinion 2: The two Ripper-fronted albums are quite good - they're even better than a couple of Halford-fronted ones. Unpopular opinion 3: 'In Search of Sanity' is the best Onslaught album (the others are good too). Unpopular opinion 4: John Corabi is a much better singer than Vince Neal, and the Corabi-fronted self-titled album is my favorite Crüe album. Unpopular opinion 5: It's okay to like glam AND thrash metal. Unpopular opinion 6: 'Battle vest'/'battle jacket' is a stupid name, and a lot of the things we metalheads do and say are actually kinda dumb too (like saying 'Hails' as a greeting or calling eath other 'brother'). Unpopular opinion 7: I'm not really a Cannibal Corpse fan (don't dislike them, just never really got interested in them) Unpopular opinion 8: I like 'Necroticism' better than 'Reek of Putrefaction' and 'Symphonies of Sickness'. Unpopular opinion 9: Manowar became a joke decades ago, and I have no interest in them anymore. Unpopular opinion 10: There's no such thing as true metal or false metal Unpopular opinion 11: 'St. Anger' isn't that bad. Unpopular opinion 12: I like the four last Death albums better than the first three ines (but I do like the first three ones). Unpopular opinion 13: Elitism and gatekeeping in metal is stupid, and there should be just as much room for, say, people of color, women, trans people, and gay people as there is for sweaty white guys in the metal fan community, and it's really annoying that a lot of metal elitists have injected talking points from the American culture wars into their gatekeeping. Fuck those assholes! Unpopular opinion 14: While not a big fan of these genres, they're still metal: nu metal, alternative metal, metalcore, deathcore and gothic metal. Unpopular opinion 15: Some of the Tony Marting fronted Sabbath albums are better than some of the Ozzy fronted ones.
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Tupan
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I like many individual tracks, but I don't feel consistency in their albums. Maybe I need to listen more to Soundgarden.
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MrMan2000
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I'll weigh in.
Iron Maiden: first two Dianno albums are UNDERRATED; TNOTB, POM and Powerslave are properly rated, everything after is OVERRATED. Randy Rhoads guitar work has never been matched since. He was truly unique and original. The two albums with Ozzy rank as high as ANY Black Sabbath albums. Dream Theater - like many bands was creative and original to start with but since Scenes From A Memory have simply been regurgitating same ideas to ever dwindling success. Any band that uses growling vocals is unlistenable to me. Seriously, Opeth's music sounds really great, but the growling vocals just make it a non-starter for me. And the songs without growling vocals seem...dull? To be fair bc the growling vocals kill me am not very familiar with the catalog. Mike Patton is the most accomplished vocalist who's ever tackled metal - but you can say that about him and many genres of music. Guns and Roses are and always were a decent but not great rock band. Axl's vocals sound pretty shitty looking back. Judas Priest's most popular albums, Screaming For Vengeance and Defender's of the Faith, are among their worst. However, their entire catalog is a staggering library of consistent metal. Queensryche's run in the 80's was an innovative and high quality metal as you'll find. Virtually every metal band owes a debt to Rush. Soundgarden is a band I feel like I should like more but any time I start listening to them I soon find myself wanting to listen to something else. James Maynard Keynes side projects (A Perfect Circle and Pucifer) have been more interesting than his Tool stuff for since Lateralus. |
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Check out my Rock and Roll Soap Box site on YouTube where I opine on various things rock: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGJZ37mEgLpKzYvPbXcHQkg
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Vim Fuego
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That's what I found recently looking at the old Black Sabbath albums. There were good songs, but the albums didn't necessarily work well as albums. Metal has always been album music to me, rather than just a collection of singles or songs, and Judas Priest seemed to get that. I think Overkill and Bomber by Motorhead also work well.
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SilentScream213
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For me... I'd say most 70's metal is really boring. Sin After Sin is the only album from that era I consider truly great.
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Tupan
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This, totally. I think he would grow up more as a guitar player over the years, but we will never know
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Unitron
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Quiet Riot-era Rhoads > Ozzy-era Rhoads
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If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme
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Vim Fuego
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I have to agree somewhat. I wonder if some of the hype around Rhoads was to do with his spectacular untimely death?
I've always just left the guitar player hype thing to musicians. I have no clue how good or bad they are, I just go by what sounds good! And while he might well have been a musical prodigy, those first two Ozzy albums he was on just aren't as good as most of Ozzy-era Sabbath or any Dio-era Sabbath, and I've never thought to mention it out loud before.
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Tupan
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Another one: Randy Rhoads is overrated. I never understood all the hype
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Unitron
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I have too many to list, but maybe the most unpopular:
Iron Maiden is overrated, Somewhere in Time was their last great album (and best album), and Paul Di'Anno > Bruce Dickinson.
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If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme
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Vim Fuego
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I'm probably the opposite. I find screechy black metal vocals highly off-putting. It's probably because I started with death metal.
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BitterJalapeno
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I'll join Bruno with the comment regarding Dream Theater. I love prog but I find Dream Theater unbelievably dull and uninspiring.
My most unpopular opinion is probably that I find Metallica very overrated in (there's a couple of tracks I love but for the most part, I could happily not bother listening to them). |
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Star baby, did you deep fry a piece of the Great Barrier Reef?
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