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Vim Fuego
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There used to be a review there and there's not any more. It's gone. I don't even want to have that much of my name associated with that cunt, so I just deleted it.
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adg211288
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Strictly speaking yes, since the music should be the foremost consideration (I personally enjoy Burzum on occasion yet have utter contempt for its creator). This really doesn't bother me though.
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Triceratopsoil
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http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/review/filosofem/311081
Is a "protest" review without any consideration or mention of the music against site rules?
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UMUR
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^Yep I�ve deleted the review and had a talk with the member who posted it. It happened to be a band member and we have a nice talk.
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J-Man
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Does this count as a review? All I see are URLS and album info: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/the-death-of-art--review.aspx?id=273100
EDIT: Looks like it was already deleted, nevermind! Edited by J-Man - 26 Aug 2012 at 9:22am |
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The Angry Scotsman
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I've always said benevolent dictatorships are the best way to get things done! Just use your power for good and it's ok I'm ok with it, I assume you didn't threaten the guy or anything and really, it shouldn't be tolerated since he admitted it. Fair and reasonable? Erm Edited by The Angry Scotsman - 26 Jan 2011 at 2:47pm |
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Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal!
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Pekka
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^ That was the Scorpions case I presume?
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Certif1ed
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Sadly it's true.
I PM'd another guy who wrote in his reviews that this was exactly what he was doing - he actually seemed to think it was a fair and reasonable thing to do.
I educated him, politely at first, then applied increasingly heavier lumps of concrete to my baseball bat until he gave in.
This may not be site policy, so I won't make a habit of it, but I'm very keen to send out strong messages to would-be abusers...
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UMUR
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Suspicious ratings should always be reported, but we have to look at it case by case, and while many of us don�t agree with the reported user�s ratings, and some I sense are really frustrated about them, you won�t find only 0.5 ratings or only 5 star ratings among his ratings. He has also rated albums with more moderate ratings and in a case like this I think sending a friendly PM reminding the user that we�re watching his actions and expect him to consider his ratings is enough. Again he has not stated anywhere that he is downvoting those albums for the sake of it and as long as his profile shows a diverse range of ratings I think it�s hard to prove abuse.
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Colt
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Can you expand?
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The Angry Scotsman
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When it comes to reviews I almost never point fingers, since we have diverse tastes and usually abuse is not really so, but I have noticed a good amount of .5 stars on popular albums. (EDIT: Never mind, you said the user has been PM'd)
Up to them, but apparently there has been admittance of downvoting albums just to drive it down? Is this true or just an assumption? Regardless. it is outright abuse, and for albums with few reviews a very low/high one can move it a bit. For now I think the weighting system is good. All our collabs have been fair, so while this site is young I'm ok with collab overkill to prevent abuse. ALSO OVERKILL Edited by The Angry Scotsman - 25 Jan 2011 at 4:00am |
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CCVP
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LOL, collab weight is totally Overkill. Pun intended.
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J-Man
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^ That's a fair outcome.
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UMUR
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OK so to prevent rating abuse Phil has now changed the rating weigthing to this:
There�s also been sent a PM to emersonbg where we voice our concern about his ratings. When that is said, he hasn�t as such done anything illegal. He hasn�t stated anywhere that he rates low for the sake of it and he is entitled to rate any album in the database with exactly the rating he would like to. Just like you and I. That doesn�t mean we shouldn�t voice our concern when we find something suspicious, so please continue to report issues. Thanks.
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UMUR
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We are discussing the issue in the Admin Zone and will post our decision here.
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Certif1ed
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When someone explicitly states that this is what they are doing, then it's an abuse of the system to my mind, and the user should be banned (after reminders, warnings, etc) and all ratings/reviews deleted.
It's one thing to vote something low because you don't like it, which is fair enough, and another to deliberately try to frig the ratings system. Even if the votes don't count for much, the principle sucks.
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J-Man
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I believe I mentioned him a little while ago in the collab section.... technically he hasn't broken any rules as far as I know. His opinions and logic may be flawed, but as long as he's not putting the same ratings on more than one account, I don't believe it's ban-worthy material. His ratings are often distasteful, but we should also keep in mind that ratings are worth almost nothing once an honest collab/user review is submitted. I think a collab review is worth 20x, where as a rating is only 1x. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course...
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Time Signature
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Downvoting for the sake of downvoting is, of course, unacceptable.
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The Block
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Well, that's up for an admin to decide.
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Double-D
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So Master Of Puppets deserve 0,5 stars because it's overrated?!? I can agree but how can he explain that minutes after review he ranks something with 0,5 without even knowing what this album is. When I don't like any band I just don't vote for it, it's easy. I understand that every single user is important, but guys like this one should be banned immediately.
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