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    Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 10:05am
Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

Forget true metal.  If metal bands only did things the true/traditional way, I most likely wouldn't be listening to metal to this day.  


That's pretty clever actually, it would just be the blues on one acoustic guitar on a porch. 


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While I�m pretty conservative when it comes to which types of metal I enjoy listening to, I hail the way the genre evolves and changes. Just in the 20 or so years that I have been listening to metal so much has happened. A lot of new sub-genres and styles have appeared and some have vanished again or been re-named or swallowed by a broader tag. Still the aggression that is the core of the style wether it be traditional heavy metal or more extreme forms of metal is still present and unites metal fans across the globe.
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I don't even believe in the concepts of true and false metal. Metal music has always been a bastard child of other genres and it keeps evolving because of that very trait.
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Forget true metal.  If metal bands only did things the true/traditional way, I most likely wouldn't be listening to metal to this day.  
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As black metal is the most popular underground metal genre perhaps ever, it will be the last to fall.


Really ? I always it was the least popular of all realistic genres. (Eg, not some made up one with only one band)


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The two best statements in this thread:

Quote Metal generally grows new branches without killing the tree


Quote Metal never left; it just went underground.


Usually, when people think "Metal went away", it just means that they left Metal.
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Now I know who stole my baby oil.
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Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

True Metal never went away.


 
Nope but it sure looked uglyLOL
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I don't care about Brett Stevens opinions. He's a subhuman and not kvlt in any way! Not worthy ov the attention ov us superhumans!!!
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Originally posted by Pelata Pelata wrote:

http://www.examiner.com/metal-music-in-houston/the-return-of-true-metal
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Brett Stevens, Houston Metal Music Examiner
December 26, 2011

 
Something interesting happened around 2003. At this point, the black metal community woke up and realized a couple of unsettling things.

First, they suddenly saw that since 1995, nothing much had been happening and the few good bands had been drowned out by a sea of imitators. Second, they recognized that what was replacing the "trve kvlt" black metal was a new form of music that mixed indie rock, shoegaze, emo, post-hardcore, and punk rock with black metal and death metal flavorings.

I'll just point out some of the great black metal albums released between 1995 and 2003:
1995:
Ultima Thulee by Blut aus Nord
The Sun of Tiphareth by Absu
Storm of the Light's Bane by Dissection
A Black Moon Broods Over Lemuria by Bal-Sagoth
Infidel Art by Sigh
1996:
The Dwelling by Sabbat (all my eternal hailz)
Nemesis Divina by Satyricon
Memoria Vetusta I: Fathers of the Icy Age by Blut aus Nord
Zirnindu Sa by Negura Bunget
Passage by Samael
Filosofem by Burzum
1997:
Goat Horns by Nokturnal Mortum
The Olden Domain by Borknagar
The Third Storm of Cythraul by Absu
Nattens Madrigal by Ulver
Under the Sign of Hell by Gorgoroth
1998:
Steineiche and Schattengang by Paysage d'Hiver
Destroyer by Gorgoroth
1999:
The Nightspectral Voyage by Obsidian Gate
To the Gates of Blasphemous Fire and NeChrist by Nokturnal Mortum
At the Heart of Winter by Immortal
Paysage d'Hiver by Paysage d'Hiver
Srontgorrth by Nagelfar
2000:
Maiastru Sfetnic by Negura Bunget
Creed of Iron by Graveland
I-Within Deep Dark Chambers by Shining
2001:
The Codex Necro by Anaal Nathrakh
Tara by Absu
II-Liviets Andhallplats by Shining
2002:
De Expugnatione Elfmuth by Nazgul
Sons of Northern Darkness by Immortal
Carnage in Worlds Beyond by Enthroned
Nocturnal Poisoning by Xasthur
2003:
Noontide by Fanisk
The Tenth Sublevel of Suicide by Leviathan
Deathcult Armageddon by Dimmu Borgir
and of course, the excellent Dark Space I by Darkspace

The main reason I love black metal is because there's so many ways it can go.  I'd like it a lot less if the only bands playing the style were a bunch of Transylvanian Hunger wannabes.  Seriously, if nobody tampered with the traditional heavy metal style, traditional heavy metal would be the only heavy metal.


Originally posted by Pelata Pelata wrote:

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December 26, 2011 

This was a counterpart to what happened in death metal around the year 2000 when "metalcore," or technical hardcore with death metal stylings, effectively replaced death metal. We now call this "technical death metal" and "melodic death metal"

What the fuck?  I'm not even going to bother.

Originally posted by Pelata Pelata wrote:

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It's not so much that true metal is a genre, but a label that bands are applying to their music to say that they are not part of the newer hybrid genre, and that they want to return to the spirit that produced the great music of the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s. The spirit is what allows bands to create music that carries the power of older metal, say fans, and many fans suggest that the newer music has lost that spirit because it's going in another direction. Whatever the case, the true metal movement is suggesting that metal isn't just a bunch of techniques and tropes, but a gestalt that ties them all together and communicates some kind of union with power and transcendence of the human condition, while more recent metal hybrids have been all about celebrating that human condition.



I don't bust a nut trying to over-categorize every single thing listen to.  I've never seen a need to label something as bombastically as blackened melodic funeral drone sludge thrashcore.  Bathory were as much of a black metal band as Darkthrone, Paysage d'Hiver, Sabbat, Shining, and even Dimmu Borgir are now.

The poster of the article seems opposed to any metal that isn't traditional metal with the reason that it isn't traditional.  I find that to be a pretty banal reason.  It's like a Dimmu Borgir fan writing a negative review for Filosofem because of its raw production, and lack of grandiose symphonic elements.  It works the other way though; a Burzum fan's critical review of Deathcult Armageddon for its lack of raw sounding "kvlt"ness is about as worthless to me as those bibles that are put in hotel rooms.  Are there genres I hate?  Yes, but I'm not going to rip on beatdown deathcore or pornogrind just because it isn't funeral doom metal or winter themed black metal.

The author also seems to forget that even those "traditional" bands had their moments of darkness.  Iron Maiden in albums 8 through 11, Anthrax's alternative metal phase, Metallica stating that their lifestyle determines their deathstyle then proclaiming that they are the table years later...What this guy doesn't realize is that metal has been making a "comeback" during the majority of the last decade.

Metal never left; it just went underground.  Today, with the prevalence of the internet, all those hidden albums have had new light shone upon them; and it's like they've always had a prestigious place in the collection of the metal collector.
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Thanks for posting the article! I'm proud of my Klingon-like loyalty to metal. The cool thing about metal is, since it is not pop music, it will not eat itself. Metal generally grows new branches without killing the tree. There is always room for any good band, without having to sacrifice the last one. This makes me think of that Metal Evolution documentary I've been watching; everyone from different movements in metal were very respectful of their predecessors and their juniors. The only exception seemed to be in "grunge," where the people interviewed didn't want to be associated with metal that came before, or post-grunge that came after them. Their arrogance was jarring, and unfounded imo.
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Originally posted by Pelata Pelata wrote:

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Metalheads are infamous for their Klingon-like loyalty to the bands and styles they love



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Originally posted by Pelata Pelata wrote:

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 but a gestalt that ties them all together and communicates some kind of union with power and transcendence of the human condition, while more recent metal hybrids have been all about celebrating that human condition.


 
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True Metal never went away.


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Brett Stevens, Houston Metal Music Examiner
December 26, 2011

 
Something interesting happened around 2003. At this point, the black metal community woke up and realized a couple of unsettling things.

First, they suddenly saw that since 1995, nothing much had been happening and the few good bands had been drowned out by a sea of imitators. Second, they recognized that what was replacing the "trve kvlt" black metal was a new form of music that mixed indie rock, shoegaze, emo, post-hardcore, and punk rock with black metal and death metal flavorings.

This was a counterpart to what happened in death metal around the year 2000 when "metalcore," or technical hardcore with death metal stylings, effectively replaced death metal. We now call this "technical death metal" and "melodic death metal" but it has less in common with death metal than breakaway punk bands like Neurosis and Human Remains.

Starting a few years later, the "true metal" movement was born. It exists in several genres, but has grouped heavy metal and speed metal into power metal, pushed death metal and doom metal into the same genre, and in black metal, has barely manifested itself at all. As black metal is the most popular underground metal genre perhaps ever, it will be the last to fall.
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The press is even starting to notice.

Between revivals of classic heavy metal genres and iconic bands' reunion tours, it's clear that a love of tradition still runs deep in aggressive music culture. Metalheads are infamous for their Klingon-like loyalty to the bands and styles they love; many metal heads don't just let their musical tastes inform their listening habits, but everything from their style of dress to their social circles. In 2011, many bands sought to honour these hardcore fans with tours and albums that paid tribute to, and drew inspiration from, respected genre conventions. While still outside the mainstream, aggressive music now has the strength and power of a rich musical heritage all its own, and found success in celebrating that.

The year saw many significant bands reuniting, including the recent announcement that the original Black Sabbath line-up would be writing a new album together and embarking upon a world tour. Anthrax reunited with vocalist Joey Belladonna to record a new album, and thrash's Big Four (Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and Anthrax) toured together for the first time in their mutual history.

Successful genre revivals, such as thrash and the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, continued to thrive. Unlike other genres, metal is not trendy, and to delve into a particular style of metal means to invest in a vast back-catalogue as well as seek out new music. Fans of NWOBHM are just as likely to be listening to old Raven LPs as they are to be enjoying the latest 3 Inches of Blood release. Albums are valued by fans for how much they adhere to the conventions of these beloved genres; to say something sounds exactly like an early example is a form of praise.

It's not so much that true metal is a genre, but a label that bands are applying to their music to say that they are not part of the newer hybrid genre, and that they want to return to the spirit that produced the great music of the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s. The spirit is what allows bands to create music that carries the power of older metal, say fans, and many fans suggest that the newer music has lost that spirit because it's going in another direction. Whatever the case, the true metal movement is suggesting that metal isn't just a bunch of techniques and tropes, but a gestalt that ties them all together and communicates some kind of union with power and transcendence of the human condition, while more recent metal hybrids have been all about celebrating that human condition.

It should be exciting to watch this pan out.

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