Bands Attitudes To The Fans & Free Music

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   If venues didn't take a percentage on merch sales... bands could stop selling music altogether and just sell shirts, posters, pins, stickers, hats and all that sort of stuff, and have like a full-on market stall manned by the several roadies throughout the gig instead of one pissed off girlfriend at a crappy table full of still-too-expensive-even-though-we-do-want-to-support-you hoodies at only the start and end of the gig.

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Kingcrimsonprog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 23 Sep 2011 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 582	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kingcrimsonprog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Bands Attitudes To The Fans & Free Music Posted: 03 May 2012 at 6:36am
	If venues didn't take a percentage on merch sales... bands could stop selling music altogether and just sell shirts, posters, pins, stickers, hats and all that sort of stuff, and have like a full-on market stall manned by the several roadies throughout the gig instead of one pissed off girlfriend at a crappy table full of still-too-expensive-even-though-we-do-want-to-support-you hoodies at only the start and end of the gig.
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Diogenes Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 06 Nov 2010 Location: Undecided Status: Offline Points: 877	Post Options Post Reply Quote Diogenes Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 May 2012 at 11:09am
	This is terrific. I've found tons of bands who release their music for free via Bandcamp or Jamendo, but not nearly as many people know of these websites like they do The Pirate Bay or other torrent sites. This is a great promotion method, simple as that. Like it or not, the internet is a major source of finding (and buying) new music these days, and it would be very RIAA-esque not to take advantage of such an opportunity. IMO, it should be the band's decisions whether their music gets released for free or not. I know that's never going to happen as long as record labels exist, but who should have more say in the matter: the people who actually make the music, or the people who distribute and promote it?

Kingcrimsonprog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 23 Sep 2011 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 582	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kingcrimsonprog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 May 2012 at 6:36am
	Well, it doesnt have to be a torrent if its legal. They could just put up a direct download link to the albums on their own website, like Sheavy do.
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Wilytank Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Location: Pencil-vainea Status: Offline Points: 4028	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wilytank Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 2012 at 9:41pm
	Well, I guess the problem is that they're running out of websites to use to spread their free music around.


Tupan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Location: Brasil Status: Offline Points: 1626	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tupan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 2012 at 9:20pm
	I am a supporter of free legal music. I know many excellent bands through free legal downloads: Random is an well known example.

Colt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 6668000	Post Options Post Reply Quote Colt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 2012 at 11:59am
	Interesting this is brought up today. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17894176 I guess the industry has responded to part of the questions posed. IMO if its legal the band has no moral obligation to the industry outside of itself. It's up to the industry to get its act in order to make the sale of music worthwhile. Like Jonas, where I can, I like to have a physical copy. Of late, this has leant towards vinyl rather than a digitized version whether physical or not. That said I still buy a fair number of CD's and MP3's.
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Kingcrimsonprog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 23 Sep 2011 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 582	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kingcrimsonprog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 2012 at 11:48am
	I bought all three Rishloo albums off iTunes and a tshirt direct from the band... but still I love them so much I want to buy some vinyl or something just to high-five them for making such great albums. I think its doubly neat that they give them away now that they've broke up, I hope it helps more people get into them and that gives them enough cash to make their new album without their singer.
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UMUR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Errors & Omissions Team / Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 18250	Post Options Post Reply Quote UMUR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 2012 at 1:32am
	Legal downloads are cool, but when I really want something I go buy a physical media. It�s a nice way to spread the word about your music if you don�t pay the rent with the money you earn from selling your music.
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Kingcrimsonprog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 23 Sep 2011 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 582	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kingcrimsonprog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Apr 2012 at 7:27pm
	Appr: I HIGHLY recommend it. http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7228201/Rishloo_Discography For a more detailed and impassioned sale on the idea, check out http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/do-you-trust-me-rishloo-give-away-free-albums-download-them/ Anyway. Rishloo broke up and they decided to give away their albums for free. How do feel about that ? Do you think more people should do it ? Do you think no-one should do it to preserve the financial value of music ? Do you think bands should do it BEFORE they break up ? Is it smart as a way to get more fans, just a clever advertisement ? Is it a bad idea and will hurt the middle-men who sell the music but arent a band ? Will it help or hurt other bands in the future ? Do a band really have any responsibility to future bands or the value of music anyway... once they've split ? We've had the illegal downloads debate before.. but what about the legal downloads, how do they make you feel ?
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