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Vim Fuego 
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 Topic: Glam MetalPosted: 14 Nov 2015 at 12:58am |
The Decline Of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years. Glam metal deserved to die after that movie. Actually, Megadeth didn't do themselves too many favours either!
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Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 3:39pm |
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Odin! Odin! Odin!
(what movie was that from?
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Lizzy Borden!
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Posted: 12 Nov 2015 at 4:44pm |
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There's some great bands on that list and Van Halen (Roth era) take some beating but I'm going for Badlands though I wouldn't call them glam metal, being more blues based 70's style hard rock.
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Posted: 12 Nov 2015 at 3:07am |
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Hanoi Rocks. Class.
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Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 11:59pm |
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Voted Motley Crue, G'n'R, Skid Row, and Ratt.
Also voted Van Halen and The Cult, although I've never considered them to be glam metal bands.
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If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme
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Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 11:41pm |
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WASP, GnR, and Skid Row. Would have voted for Steel Panther if they'd been on the list....
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Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 2:35am |
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I also like Extreme, Dokken, Great White, Kiss, Skid Row, Ratt, GnR, Motley Crue and Krokus out of that long list. I wouldn't call Krokus glam metal, but nevermind that, they have some great music, maybe I should listen to what I liked from them. Someone mentioned Cinderella, I love them, their first two albums are great. Motley Crue - only their 80s albums I enjoy Extreme - their III Sides... album is great Skid Row - obviously Slave to the Grind Kiss - most of their albums are uneven, but they do have some great songs. GnR - Appetite... is great, the Illusions albums are uneven, there's a lot of filler there. |
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Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 5:59pm |
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Havent heard Tesla - whats their best album?
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 GLAM METAL!
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Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 4:49pm |
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+ Tesla
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Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 4:43am |
Would agree with every word! Hard Rock is what I thought it was till I came across Dave Mustaine's famous quote on "GLAM"....
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I'd have to choose between GnR and Skid Row. And I think I'd go for Skid Row because I'm way too biased about Bach. Yes, I don't even care about the band after Bach but there's something about 18 and Life, Quicksand Jesus, Youth Gone Wild. Not to forget Dave Sabo! |
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Posted: 01 Sep 2010 at 2:35am |
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WASP are glam but like Kiss have some of the heaviest tracks in this long list.
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GLAM METAL!
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Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 5:34pm |
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I almost completely agree with what you say. But finally I can say only this: some metal fans simply use the term glam metal just to "bury" some very good hard rock bands. To be
precise I don't like the term "glam metal" at all i prefer the term
"commercial hard rock" or "80s hard rock" to describe this kind of metal. It is
very eazy to criticize the make-up of Poison but what
all these heavy guys have to say about the tons of make-up used by the black metal bands?
P.S.: Well the last question is out of topic but nevermind... P.S. 2: How a progressive metal fan like me became a defender of glam metal? I think deep inside in me a poser is hiding...  P.S.: Van Halen a glam metal band? Zeus will burn us alive! |
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Posted: 04 Aug 2010 at 1:54am |
Um... that's actually more or less what I meant when I said "while they had the Glam image, and the geographical credentials, their attitude was somewhat extreme".
The thing with the list given in this thread is that it mainly concentrates on image, and that is why I singled out Skid Row, who had neither the Glam image or sound, and Krokus, who started out almost as a Prog band then started sounding more like AC/DC than AC/DC. Although I understand they wore eye liner.
Everyone has their own definitions of various musical groupings (I shudder at the word "genre"), and now I look at the list, I'm wondering why Van Halen would appear in there - or Guns 'n' Roses, or The Cult, or Kingdom Come...
To be more accurate about the sound/definition of Glam, it should, by rights, sound more rock n roll, like Gary Glitter or T Rex than the atrocious ballads of bands like Cinderella, or the overblown blues of G'n'R - and Glam is inseparable from the image - that's more than 50% of it - so I'd be more willing to accept W.A.S.P. as Glam than Skid Row or Van Halen.
If you dig through the NWoBHM bands and hard rock bands of the late 1970s / early 1980s, there's little to distinguish the music from Glam bands - particularly The Sweet and Slade, who were a massive influence on Quiet Riot. Both of those bands were far more hard rock or even early heavy metal than Glam.
On the Flip side, 1970s band The Heavy Metal Kids were far more Glam than heavy metal, and they were an inspiration on AC/DC, whose first singer was a confirmed Glam head.
In short, musically there's very little to distinguish Glam from most early Heavy Metal.
Which of these two is more metal than glam?
...OK, having re-listened to that Motley Crue track, I can understand why someone might think that Skid Row played the same music - it's not that different (but then neither is the W.A.S.P. track, except it's a bit wimpier than the Crue song).
In 1987, "Heavy Metal" was the music in the above videos, and "Thrash Metal" was Metallica et al - simple division, based on the mechanical attributes (thrashing is a technique that anyone can positively identify).
As Micky rightly says, it's all Heavy Metal.
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Posted: 03 Aug 2010 at 8:02pm |
for many... I suppose myself as well... image went a long way into making a band glam. There has never seemed to me to be a particular glam metal 'sound' other than perhaps being a bit upbeat and ..hmm.. poppy?? But I suppose I myself see glam beginning and ending with metal.. that is more concerned with image..and hair!!! hahah... than music. That fits a particular era and time and place .. KISS was the little swimmies... and LA the womb..naturally... flakes that they are haha. Together I suppose they gave birth to glam.. hair metal. |
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My friend WASP was a "glam" band only in image. When we call a band "glam band" we mean that beyond image this band plays like glam band (sort songs, rock'n'roll riffs etc.). WASP are a classic 80's metal band with very heavy sound and strong melodies and sometimes with a power metal and progressive touch (listen to the "Crimson Idol" album). I can imagine WASP playing together with bands like Iron Maiden or Judas Priest but never with bands like Poison.
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I understand - while they had the Glam image, and the geographical credentials, their attitude was somewhat extreme.
I'm not really familiar enough with their music (which is where it counts!), but I would tend to agree, from the little I've heard, that the similarities between them and Cinderella are slight.
The comparison is somewhat extreme, however - I think there may be similarities between them and Motley Crue?
It's a bit like saying that Def Leppard and Venom can't possibly both be NWoBHM bands because they're so different in sound and attitude (and that's a far more extreme comparison!).
One of the oddities on that list, to me, is Skid Row, who didn't have a Glam image OR sound - that sound is pure Southern Boogie with attitude - and weren't Krokus from Swizerland, not L.A.?
As Micky points out, it's fine to disagree, but what's the solution? Edited by Certif1ed - 03 Aug 2010 at 1:52am |
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Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 6:25pm |
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if not glam metal... then what? When they are considered to be in the L.A. wave of bands as Motley Crue, RATT and others.
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Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 6:12pm |
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W.A.S.P. is a glam metal band? Gimme a break boyz.... How can you put albums like "Headless Children" together with "Night Songs" of Cinderella?
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