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ProgMetaller2112
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You are not alone in this I am one of those strange people too . Anyway to the thread's topic, I have always enjoyed Metallica's material. When I was younger(like about 10 or 11) I remembered catching and hearing glimpses of the Black Album and thinking how awesome that was but it was not necessarily a mind-blower. I remembered watching the videos for St.Anger on MTV as that got me curious about the band because I knew(even I hadn't really the band's music all too much) that they had great stuff. Then, I heard One on the radio(on K-Roq) and I was blown away. As of late I have gained even more of an appreciation of Tallica's music. Truly a great band especially in the 1980s and early 90s. They are the band that exposed me to other great Metal bands too
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I find ...And Justice For All more intimate, if I may call it that, more personal, while I tend to see Master of Puppets as a more superficial, head-bang-oriented product. They're both great albums, to be sure, but the former is closer to me.
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The Angry Scotsman
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Yeah? Glad to hear!
It seemed, at least to me, that MoP was pretty much considered their crown jewel. Great album of course, but my fav has always been AJFA. Weird sound aside (and really is it that big a deal?) some great music! |
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Definitely ...And Justice For All as my top pick.
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The Angry Scotsman
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KEA to AJFA are brilliant. Some great music!
I dont like Black Album, Load and ReLoad (). I actually don't hate St Anger (Id say 3 stars) Death Magnetic grew on me. |
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Their tour is ending in a couple of months, so then they'll be taking a vacation (six months I think Lars said somewhere) and perhaps then they'll start going through the pre-show warm up riff tapes. So give it three years and they might have some news
Hah, that reminds me. When they did that, at the turn of the century, I was only happy they did that. I thought the ending was boring. Hard to imagine it now, but that's really what I thought. Luckily they always play it all the way through nowadays.
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harmonium.ro
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I discovered Metallica in the mid 90s as a teenager. Of course they were famous in Eastern Europe, after the dictatorial regimes fell everybody was exploring the new found freedom and catching up with the West, there were tons of metalheads, hippies, "depeche"-ists, etc. But I could not hear Metallica anywhere, until cable television finally arrived in my town too and they had MTV. When the first single from Load hit the screens, I was hoocked - it was "Until it Sleeps". I had no idea what their old stuff sounded like, and I had no clue about metal in general, so I liked the songs from the Load-Reload era a lot. They were excellent pieces of mainstream music of that time. When I started going out in town with the rockers and drink vodka in lousy bars, I would hear "One" or "Master Of Puppets" once in a while, and they were awesome, but since most people in the East had discovered metal because of the fall of Communism in 1989, everyone was big on the "Black Album" - the album that came out at that moment in time. Only a small elite of metalheads were really experts and had a good knowledge of 80s metal (and discs to listen to). So I only got acquainted with their thrash period in the 2000s, when I also got the habit of listening to full albums instead of only listening to the TV singles. Right now I'd rate higher the 80s albums (especially Justice and Master), but I still like Black/Load/Reload/S&M. At least I think so, I didn't listen to any Metallica in years.
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I agree that the "Live Shit" set is awesome, but it definitely suffers from a lack of variety in terms of song selection. To make it interesting, they should have kept track of what songs were played at these recorded gigs to avoid the overlapping. From what I've heard, Metallica does a much better job these days in varying their setlist from gig-to-gig. And as previously mentioned, some of the solo sections are hard to sit through.
This reminds me: Anyone else get pissed off when Metallica play "Master Of Puppets" half way through only to cut into "Enter Sandman"? Edited by Stooge - 04 Aug 2010 at 4:21pm |
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Time Signature
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I think that a lot of the Black Album-era concerts were boring. I remember seeing Metallica live back then in Copenhagen with Mercyful Fate and Suicidal Tendencies warming up. After those bands, Metallica seemed like a tired mastodon on the brink of extinction, with their long rendition of "Seek and Destroy" and all the state chatter and so on.
I caught one of their shows in Copenhagen last year, and that was much, much, much better, as they'd cut most of the pointless stage chatter and Hammett's guitar solo was shortened down to less than five minutes.... oh, and there were no "Load" or "Reload" songs which I appreciated a lot :-) |
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Is there any new material coming out soon?
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GLAM METAL!
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That Seattle gig is mindblowing The later gigs have some horrendously boring stuff like the 20 minute solo fest from Mexico City, but that gig also has some of my favourite Metallica performances, like Creeping Death and especially Whiplash.
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New member eh! Great to see you here. Hope you stick around.
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I was big into hair metal when I was 12 years old. I was lucky enough to have a few heavier things like Maiden's "Number of the Beast" and Priest's "Sin After Sin", and Ozzy's "Bark at the Moon", but Def Leppard was my favorite band at the time. Then this girl I knew in school sold me a copy of Metallica's "...And Justice for All" because she didn't like it. I had no idea who they were or what they sounded like, and up to that point, I'd remained ignorant of the world of extreme metal, so that album served as my gateway into heavier fare. I didn't really know what to make of it at first, it seemed so alien to me, but I kept listening to it, mesmerized. It was so morose and wrathful and malcontented, and in some sense I'd never really considered that music could speak to the unhappiness and frustration we feel in life until that point.
So "Justice" was my initiation into the world of extreme metal. I've since gotten into everything from really fucked up death/black metal to doom and prog metal, but recently I've been revisiting thrash metal and listening to these bands again. "Justice" remains my favorite Metallica album, along with "Puppets". I also like the "Binge and Purge" live set a lot. |
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Metallica were the first thrash band I encountered - after I heard Fight Fire with Fire i was never the same again and systematically got one album after another. I remember going oint othe store and listening to the brand new album Master of Puppets and the metal heads were there spouting off how brilliant it was. I listened to the first 2 tracks and decided right then and there to buy it. I think I played it all night.
Best albums are
If I have to make a top 5:
1-Master Of Puppets (1986)
2-Black Album (1991)
3-Death Magnetic (2008)
4-... And Justice For All (1988)
5-Ride the Lightning Yes thats it!
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I'm embarassed! I was a seriously late starter on the Metallica front, 'cause I was brought up with prog, hard rock and some glam metal. So, I wasn't even too sure who Metallica were until I was about 13. You see, thrash was never a genre that my family really knew or took to.
I discovered them initially when watching a thing called 'The Mullet Man Show' on a then rock/metal channel called Scuzz (which used to be good until it got took over by the owners of a pop station who turned it into nu metal and emo ) I used to tune in each night for the show because I was a serious Ozzy Osbourne fanboy at the time (...still am, when I come to think of it! ) ...and there they were, Metallica!
At first, I didn't really know what to think of them, because the first I seen of them was the video for 'One', which scared the shit out of me, so I continued with Ozzy and Motley for about a year before I got any of thier albums.
...Ironically, it was when I was in HMV buying either my second or third installment of Megadeth when I thought, maybe a little change would be nice, let's go for Metallica. So from what I had read in a multitude of rock mags, my best bet was to go for The Black Album on grounds of accessability. I took it home, thought it was great, went back to HMV, bought another one, took it home, thought that was great...
Actually, the second one I got was Ride The Lightning, which four years later is still sounding better with every listen, my favourite songs from it were 'Creeping Death' and 'Escape', which are still favourites of mine but now 'Fight Fire With Fire' and the title track are particularly loved also.
After that, I didn't buy any more for a while as I had taken to Anthrax and Slayer, then later the grunge scene. I got St. Anger pretty much as soon as it came out, which weirdly enough I did not dislike, although it drove everyone else I knew up the walls because I was in the habit of playing 'Frantic' and 'All Within My Hands' at stereo bursting volume if I'd had a particularly bad day.
As for Load, I recognised that it was a very grungy sounding album by Metallica's standards and so, because I was still exploring grunge at the time I bought it...and liked it, need I say more?
Yet again, another gap in Metallica albums occured when I began a full exploration of prog. Until I got round to prog metal, I didn't buy any metal at all. As soon as I did, I bought all of the early albums that I had missed out on, Kill 'Em All, Master Of Puppets and also ...And Justice For All. I got them in amazingly quick succession, alongside a considerable load of other classic thrash albums which had also been previously overlooked in favour of grunge and prog. It was wonderful...and still is.
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I consider myself privileged to have grown up to watch Glam give way to Punk then NWoBHM, and always liked the wilder and more eccentric bands, such as Queen and Sweet, then the Pistols and the Damned, then Motorhead, AC/DC and The Scorps - then just about every NWoBHM band I ever heard!
Metallica came along, with Anthrax, Megadeth and Slayer not far behind, and left all those great bands in the dust (for a while - I've since got back into all of them, although AC/DC have always remained a favourite) - but after AJFA, I really felt that thrash had run its course and done pretty much everything it could - although maybe "Reign in Blood" was the ultimate thrash statement - or "Scum".
Metallica seemed to agree, with the Black album, which ushered in a new era of heaviness - proving that it didn't have to be fast or complicated to be bone-crushingly heavy, and I waited with bated breath to see what Load would be like.
I was completely gutted - to me, it was awful, and Re-Load worse - and, unbelievablty, St Anger the worst of the lot.
Death Magnetic was a welcome partial return to form - although it feels a little forced - and a bit late, given the invention of other bands. There's also the issue of the mastering (not the mixing - the mix is awesome, but the CD mastering is poor, and the vinyl mastering is a horrendous waste of vinyl).
Metallica's first 5 albums are astonishing, even today, and Metallica deserve their position at the top ot the metal tree, IMO, especially given the trail they blazed wide open for others - metal was a dirty word until "One" received its debut on MTV.
I'm very annoyed at their big "anti-piracy" campaign - not because I condone piracy (which I emphatically do not!), but because of the astonishing, bare-faced hipocrisy of the band.
Consider the way they started;
They stole the name - Lars is on record as using this exact term.
They used riffs and licks wholesale from other bands, mostly obscure - OK, so did Led Zep, Deep Purple et al, but, like the many acts that have successfully sued the latter, they did not give the bands credit, except in a few cases, such as Diamond Head, Blitzkrieg and Holocaust.
It was much later that they acknowledged (albeit in a roundabout way) some of their "influences", with Lar's involvement in a NWoBHM compilation that featured many of the bands they "stole" from (I put "stole" in inverted commas because every idea that Metallica took, they improved on, so to my mind, that's not really stealing - I'd just prefer it if they acknowledged the source and thanked bands like Vardis, Bleak House, Saxon et al).
The biggest hipocrisy, however, lies in their dealing with Napster - considering the way Metallica got to the position they did - by trading and copying cassette tapes, so the original artistes lost potentially thousands, so that they could use the ideas themselves and profit.
That sucks.
But Metallica's music on the first 5 albums is amazing.
I always get annoyed when I read about "sloppy playing" - compared with their peers, Metallica were so tight it was frankly unbelievable. The only real competition they had was from Megadeth in that department - although Metallica sold far more records - not for being more technically competent than Megadeth, but for writing the heavy metal music that a wider cross section of music fans actually wanted to listen to.
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I know that it's in to hate Metallica and Lars Ulrich, but I don't care - I think that "Ride the Lightning", "Master of Puppets", and "... and Justice for All" are some of the best thgrash metal albums ever. "Kill 'Em All" is an album I enjoy listening to, too, and I actuallly like "St. Anger" despite the strange production. I think that "Death Magnetic " is an excellent come-back, and I don't mind the black album. I can't stand "Load" and "Reload" though.
Metallica has played an important part in my life and is a central part of the sound track of my youth, so I'm not going to jump the anti-Metallica bandwagon. Edited by Time Signature - 26 Jul 2010 at 4:30am |
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Metallica was and remains as one of my favorite bands of all time, even though I don't even listen to them on a regular basis. They have some of my all time favorite albums in their discography (Puppets, Justice), but also a few I don't care for (Black album, St. Anger). My first Metallica album was a beat-up CD of Master Of Puppets, which I still have.
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Metallica was one of the first metal bands I got into. I don't listen to them a whole lot anymore, but when I was first exploring heavy metal, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice For All, and Ride The Lightning were some of my all-time favorite albums. I absolutely loved the intensity and heaviness in the music, something I hadn't heard a whole lot of before Metallica. I started my musical journey with Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, and Iron Butterfly, so I was in complete amazement the first time I heard Master of Puppets. I still love them, and I'm glad they showed they were still worth something with Death Magnetic (which I love).
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not a fan of Metallica, but i love their older stuf, Master of Puppets and and Justice for All. and some time ago i saw Metallica live in concert, i was totaly blown away, awesome performance. that was on sonisphere festival also Megadeth, Slayer and Antrax, had concerts that day, all bands were great, and Slayer , that was bloody . the crowd got angry instantly when they started to play World painted blood. moshpits, massacre, energy, a lifetime expirence..
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