Least 'metal' of our metals

micky wrote: did go with Prog Metal...  metal isn't supported to be art..but dirty and low brow thus it misses out on the SINGLE MOST metal ...metal of all.  For the common Joe, not for frickin elitists and instrumental w**kers.

Wow . . .
Thats about as "Elitest" as the Grammy's, Rolling Stone or:

whitedragon1969 wrote: Ok glam metal is not exactly metal is more hard rock... What is hard rock? Can anyone set a clear line between hard rock and metal? I think NO. And by the way what about the fake "satanic" or "antisosial" and childish lyrics of all these "extreme" metal bands who make metal looks as a ridiculous kind of music played and listened by fools? As about me I was a hard rocker I am a hard rocker and I think I am gonna stay a hard rocker for a long time... For me to be a hard rocker is like a  nobility title. And excuse me I find songs like "Dazed and Confoused" a million times heavier than all the discography of all the "Immortals" and "Deicides" of this planet! And please for ONE and ONLY ONE time my beloved extreme bands DON'T destroy the system and DON'T let his majesty Satan himself to burn us alive. Just for one time.... > ...But I think all of these bands at least they try to write songs that the people will remember and never pretend that they are the "Hardest" or the "Heavier" guys on this planet.... Today we have a lot of songs full of distorted guitars with a lot of "aaarrrggg" and "bbblllaaarrrggg" vocals but a few songs like "Ain't No Love In The Heart Of The City". And yes songs like this maybe sound "light" to the ears of some people but very "heavy" to mine.

. . . speaking of Foolish .

As said, WE all have heard the complaints how "Metal" is not music, and folks, Prog Metal has always
been the bottom of the barrel of music in general, but we who LOVE it have a broad spectrum of music
likes and are a bit glad its not popular . . . which may make us "Elitests", because we enjoy its Art and
are proud that we have this music as our "little secret", hell-we dont even get respect from most
Metalheads.  And if you only like this so-called "Heavy Metal"(as a singular genre), you probably
have a certain number of Bands you stick to.  I like variety dude.
Speaking of that, since when did Metal have any rules to adhere to?  I always thought many bands in
Metal were of the top of the food chain when it came to "Musicians", up-there with Prog, Classical and
Jazz.  Metal can be as elitest, dirty, profound, stupid and even . . . Glamm () as it wants to be!
Though I have MANY problems of "who" is in the Glamm catagory, as many I just see as either the
fore-fathers of Heavy Metal/Influences.

Also, I grew-up (and still do) with the "No Glamm Fags" attitude , but I do concede that many (not
all) had some great musicians! . . . but its what they "played/chose to play" I did not like.
Winger was mentioned, well Winger had one of the most respected Drummers in Prog and Jazz Fusion
being Rod Morgenstein of The Dixie Dregs (And Prog Metallers Platypus/Jelly Jam) for example.
Very few Glamm had Metal elements and were looked-upon with their "Hair" (Hair Bands?), not the
Sound/Sonically.  Again, the Metal bands that got tied into the Glamm thing simply because of their Hair
or what they wore kind-of pisses me off (Metallica in early photos wore spandex folks, Maiden and
Saxon as well as other NWOBHM).  And Def Lepard's 1st "On through the Night" as early Scorpions
(pre-Animal Magnitism) were as Metal as they could be in-which the time they were released.

Lastly, this kind of statement gets thrown around once in a while:

whitedragon1969 wrote: And excuse me I find songs like "Dazed and Confoused" a million times heavier than all the discography of all the "Immortals" and "Deicides" of this planet!

Thats just ignorant, I'm a HUGE Zeppelin fan, I like Deicide's 1st 2 albums-though I dont own them
(Satan blows! "Negitivity" is already telling me what I can and cant do in my life already), and I'm not
an Immortal fan, but that comparrison is just as dumb as a Fan saying:
"Justine Biebers music is heavier than that Carcass music to these ears" .

Also:

P.S.: I DON'T want to offend ANYONE but what is metal and what is not needs a lot of talk! And yes I like a some extreme bands but I think the most of them are just garbage! Heavy sound for me means strength power and a lot of melody NOT noise produce. If someone offended again I apologize...

Thats like the cliche' typical R&B/Rap fan saying (for YEARS hearing this) "ALL that music is about
'Kill your Mama Kill your Daddy" . . . No, "some" of it is WORSE, but not the majority and its NOT what
"I" or a good many of us listen to.  And their are many Metalheads that like R&B and/or Rap too (so
SHUT-UP ).  Heavy Metal's distinction of all other music is the Sound, Sonically, the punctuation of
the music.  If you are talking "Heavy" as in Heavy Thoughts, well, I have plenty a Extreme Metal lyric
to sample here from my catalogue for you (or you can always go to Darklyrics.com).
Abba could have written the same lyrics ala' Opeth, but the Music was Pop.  Opeth's "Damnation"
Album wasnt a Metal album, it was a Prog experiment, but the same type of lyrics could be found on
the sister album "Deliverance" (released the same year) which was a Prog/Death Metal album.

You don't want to offend anyone, well that was like throwing Acid on someone and then realizing what
you did and saying "...sorry".
Same goes for saying Prog Metal isnt Metal because Metal shouldnt be Art . . . Wha??? Metal can be what
ever you make it .

After saying all this I decide not to Vote, as a few Glamm bands may have some Metal in them, but its the
very least type of Music I listen to.

. . . thats my stand and I'm sticking to it


Cheers! From a foolish common Joe that gives two fingers up and well-earned "Dio" Horns
against the establishment and nay-sayers . . .







Edited by MAVIIIVAM - 06 Mar 2011 at 6:31pm

the heaviest metal genre is actually Meshuggah metal

bonnek wrote: Progressive Metal is an aberration, these guys don't even remember how to make the horn sign anymore

word

^Well, there are the Brain Drills and the Anal Cunts of this world, but at least the latter is pretty hilarious. At least in my opinion.

I read your post, and what it says to me is that any band with harsh vocals and heavy guitars are just made by bands who are trying to be the 'heaviest' and not caring about good songwriting. And if you are posting this on a metal forum you are going to find people who feel that it couldn't be farther from the truth.

^If it sounds like aaaaarg and blaaaaarg to you maybe you're on the wrong forum. Granted, not all metal has vocals that are hard to hear, but honestly you're preaching to the wrong crowd. We've been told stuff like this before, and we're not changing our listening habits because of one forumer. 

whitedragon1969 wrote: Ok glam metal is not exactly metal is more hard rock... What is hard rock? Can anyone set a clear line between hard rock and metal? I think NO. And by the way what about the fake "satanic" or "antisosial" and childish lyrics of all these "extreme" metal bands who make metal looks as a  ridiculous kind of music played and listened by fools? As about me I was a hard rocker I am a hard rocker and I think I am gonna stay a hard rocker for a long time... For me to be a hard rocker is like a  nobility title. And excuse me I find songs like "Dazed and Confoused" a million times heavier than all the discography of all the "Immortals" and "Deicides" of this planet! And please for ONE and ONLY ONE time my beloved extreme bands DON'T destroy the system and DON'T let his majesty Satan himself to burn us alive. Just for one time.... P.S.: I DON'T want to offend ANYONE but what is metal and what is not needs a lot of talk! And yes I like a some extreme bands but I think the most of them are just garbage! Heavy sound for me means strength power and a lot of melody NOT noise produce. If someone offended again I apologize...

glam metal; it's not even metal. more like hard rock

topofsm wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Who (and why) voted for Black Metal?  This is what I would like to know.

harmonium.ro wrote: Who (and why) voted for Black Metal?

This is what I would like to know.