Nergal ( Behemoth) has been diagnosed with Cancer |
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UMUR
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Posted: 03 Sep 2010 at 11:55am |
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I just lost a really long post, which is probably for the better because actually I�ve promised myself not to discuss religion with believers. We�ll just tear each others heads off and achive nothing in the end. At least you acknowledge that the statement is distasteful given the circumstances and that�s enough for me.
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CCVP
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To be frank, not, it is not. And you are from Romania, a traditionally catholic country, you should know it better. As Jonas already pointed, yes, it is distateful, but come on, the guy takes part on the single genre in rock music that is almost entirely devoted to bash religion. Sooner or later something like this was bound to happen. Same thing happened with Varg in Norway when he was arrested and, for the better or for the worse, he did had a religious awakening, becoming a pagan (or neopagan, those names always get me). Same happened with Glen Benton when he dropped his clams of suiciding at 33. He is still ridiculed about it. |
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Raff
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My take as a non-religious (though respectful of individual belief) person: if faith in a 'fictional daddy-figure' can help someone in such a difficult situation, then I don't see any harm in that. People have different ways of coping with hardships, some of them much worse than that (think of those who, stricken with a potentially fatal disease, decide to take out their whole family with them). However, I agree with Jonas that trying to exploit any given person's suffering for the purposes of spreading your agenda is quite distasteful.
What I find much more important is what he says about his general low opinion of mankind, and his surprise at the offers of help from people who don't even know him personally. I believe that realizing that not everyone is out to get you, and that there is a lot of good in mankind, would be a much more positive thing for Nergal than 'finding God'. |
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Ulfednar
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Isn't that, you know, the way religion works? Instead of facing your fear, your mortality, your responsabilities and so forth you retreat into the protective arms of a fictional daddy-figure? Sorry to hear about Nergal. Hope time will prove him right about being able to overcome this. |
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UMUR
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Well that�s their business. I still think it�s distasteful to try and mission your religion on the misfortune of a person who might be terminally ill.
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CCVP
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Not really, actually. It is a very solid thing in The Church that hardships actually help to consolidate one's faith. Countless saints had their religious awakening in moments like this. St. Paul and St. peter, being one prime examples of that.
Vladimir Putin also stated that he had his religious awakening after almost dying twice, as so has happened to many ex-soviet bureocrats and State employees, such as cosmonauts.
I really don't like Behemoth, but I wish him the best of luck fighting this horrible and cripling disease. Edited by CCVP - 03 Sep 2010 at 6:47am |
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UMUR
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Well the Catholic Church in Poland who Nergal has been in disputes with on several occasions have wasted no time and supposedly said that they hoped Nergal�s situation would bring him closer to God. That�s distasteful beyond belief IMO.
Here�s Nergal�s latest statement about his situation:
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They delivered a magnificent show at the Copenhell festival earlier this year. I wish him well - I hope he will recover.
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J-Man
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Very sad indeed. I wish only the best.
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Raff
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Very sad news !
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Pekka
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Sucks indeed
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UMUR
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http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/08/24/nergal-has-leukemia/, That�s sad news.
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