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Pekka
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Uh-oh! Thanks Adam, works now. Regarding bios, many times it's hard enough to scrape together anything, but then there are cases like Maiden where you could write a book about it if you liked. Any recommendations on length? Check for example the one for Rammstein, which inspired the "read more" option back when we started. Nobody is ever going to read that thing through. Edited by Pekka - 23 Sep 2014 at 4:59pm |
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Unitron
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With this in place, should previously opinionated biographies be updated as well?
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adg211288
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I have just managed to rehome the original copy of the Handbook thread to a public forum which will hopefully put an end to permission errors.
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Unitron
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Just wrote a bio for Porcupine Tree (The original bio was just Wikipedia)
This is going to take a while, I've noticed many bands on here have Wikipedia articles as bios. Even Iron Maiden has a Wikipedia bio!
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adg211288
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I will restore a full list of the chapters to the OP with no links.
Try this link to get onto the guide (you should be able to access it from any public forum though). |
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Pekka
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I can't even get to the thread now.
The links weren't working for me at any point, but it was nice to have the chapters listed up there, so save them please.
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adg211288
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Web Wiz Weirdness strikes yet again.
That's it, the contents links were a nice simple idea that should have worked (and would have done if we had phpBB) but they have to go.
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Pekka
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Permission problems again after the update.
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adg211288
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Yes, definitely.
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Unitron
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I have a question about old biographies that are just the Wikipedia articles. Should those be re-written?
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adg211288
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Just published version 1.1.0 of the handbook after taking on board several bits of feedback.
Changes: Added missing note that biographies should be factual and written in a neutral tone. Clarified note about compilations containing the same stuff but being considered different releases rather than reissues. Clarified note about cover artwork size on Movies etc, as well as using a picture of boxsets to show the size and look of the box. Greatly extended the Release Entries, The Requirements section and renamed it to What to Put on Release Entries. This section is why I changed the version number to v1.1.0 instead of v1.0.4, because of a clear rule change from providing a full release history, to only including significant variations on the original release. It also defines what can be seen as longer term goals, in which section I've but the reissues business. Finally added a note about MusicBrainz not working (Doubt it ever will again at this point).
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Pekka
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Good, that's what I thought
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adg211288
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Yes that's fine, just try to make sure the full-lengths in particular are nice and neat. Can't be helped for other release types.
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Pekka
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Regarding cover images, I hope it's ok when it comes to box sets to use images that reflect the size and look of the box, instead of forcefully cutting them to 500x500. Just like with VHS's and DVD's it of course creates some variance in size, but I don't believe it's a problem?
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Pekka
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Oh yes, I thought this was sort of covered already but I missed the Stratovarius example looking for it just now. But compilations are indeed a different deal. Everywhere I look I see mentions of From There being a reissue of First Ten, but after 22 years it's impossible to say if it was so presented at the time or is it just a matter of people looking at the track listings years later and supposing so. So let's leave it as it is. And yeah, perhaps you should add a word. It was enough to get me confused, so perhaps someone else will wonder about it too.
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adg211288
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Compilation releases are a tricky business as a lot of them contain the same stuff but they are still different releases. That's exactly the case in point here.
I do remember deleting the DVD entry of Live After Death (or was in Maiden England?) from the Iron Maiden profile, because that was a reissue. The example given in the release title section is when an alternately titled release shouldn't be added. We can add a note to clarify this in the handbook if you think it is required.
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Pekka
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Yeah, it's a tricky business. If we consider From There to Eternity to be a mere renamed reissue, then what else is Visions of the Beast but a renamed DVD reissue of From There to Eternity with another 10 years worth of videos added? So put your heads together admins, we need a rule!
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Lynx33
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It was me that added it, it is at the same time annotated in the entry of The First Ten Years. However, I added it because it can be considered to be not a reissue, but a new video compilation with the same videos plus additional ones. So, I think it can be deleted or left that way either
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Very well done.
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