Metal Guitar Legends

I still think that Dick Dale is the most overlooked legend of metal guitar... I know this thread is "greatest", but maybe he's still a contender;

He regularly used to blow up his amps during gigs from overdriving them too heavily - and he used Fender 50 Watt jobs, the most powerful of the time.

So Leo Fender created the 100 Watt amp, just for him - and both were happy!

Leo Fender also got Dale to be the guinea-pig for his newly-invented Stratocaster guitar. Dale loved it, but, since he was left handed, and Fender hadn't got around to making a left-handed version, he had to re-string and play the thing upside down - remind you of anyone?

Dick Dale was the first truly aggressive guitarist, despite playing what is unmistakably Surf Music (some say he invented it in the late 1950s) - but then, they hadn't even heard of heavy rock in those days, let alone heavy metal - it simply wasn't a style that anyone had ever played in.

Dale used all manner of techniques which Judas Priest and a vast number of other metal bands would later use.

The same could be said for Chuck Berry, of course, but every metal band who used Berry's licks turned up the gas on them and made them sound more aggressive, since Berry's tone was hardly hi-gain, and his style, while rockin', could hardly be said to be edgy or metallic.

Dick Dale, on the other hand, had everything - rapid alternate picking that could be considered tremolo, except that he did not use it for a tremolo effect, he used it to make the music sound more muscular and aggressive.

He also used unmistakably metal modes, hammer-ons and pull-offs and produced passages of music that Priest have re-cycled virtually note-for-note. I also seem to remember "No More Heroes" by The Stranglers beginning with a Dick Dale lick.

Maybe that should be re-phrased...

Dale recorded with the late great Stevie Ray Vaughan in the late 1980s - there's a video of his tune "Pipeline", and then in the early 1990s, recorded something that showcased his style against a more apropriate musical backdrop - listen to "Nitro" below.

Anyway, here are a couple of examples - don't be thrown by the fact that this is undeiably surf music - listen to the guitar playing and think about the year in which it was played.

Then cower before the true God of metal guitar...

1962 - Surf Beat

You remain unconvinced by the guitar "stabs" as used later by Slayer?

1962 - Miserlou

Now THAT's where Priest (and probably the Stranglers) got their sound from!

1993 - Nitro

...and check this out from Eddie and the Showmen in 1963 - surely a predecessor of heavy metal (as well as a logical progression of what Dale was doing);

Hey, that sort of music was good enough for Ritchie Blackmore back then;

So DICK DALE - could be a contender for the greatest, no?

(Please note, this is an awareness raising post, to be taken with a few grains of salt!)

Edited by Certif1ed - 08 Jun 2010 at 2:37am

The triumvirate of Page/Blackmore/Iommi with Hendrix (not metal) , Van Halen closing the top five

my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

I vote for

but

or

are another 2 Hell of axemen!!!

Steve Vai because he is from another planet

i vote petrucci

runner-up:
ron jarzombek

Voted for Vai. On the list he's probably my favorite.

As for a less metal oriented shredder I always have to shout out for Buckethead. Sure, he's got a gimmick but he's an incredible musician too.

Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want.

Dime

"Black Sabbath's Tony Iommi is one of only two guitarists (the other being Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page) that can take full credit for pioneering the mammoth riffs of heavy metal."

Greatest metal guitarist?
The one who invented it perhaps?

Iommi gets my vote

Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal!

Listen to doom metal, worship Satan

^

A perfect explanation to how the Iron Man riff sounds. Down to the right rythm and everything.

Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE!
UMUR on RYM

John Petrucci.

But since they're not on the list, here's a mention of Michael Romeo, Chris Caffery and Johan Reinholdz.

\m/ \m/

Poll Question: Choose the greatest metal guitarist
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Eddie Van Halen	2	[5.41%]
Yngwie J. Malmsteen	0	[0.00%]
Randy Rhoads	2	[5.41%]
Ritchie Blackmore	4	[10.81%]
Jimmie Page	1	[2.70%]
Tony Iommi	5	[13.51%]
Steve Vai	3	[8.11%]
Ace Frehley	0	[0.00%]
Bruce Kulick	1	[2.70%]
Michael Schenker	0	[0.00%]
Dimebag Darrell	2	[5.41%]
Angus Young	0	[0.00%]
Kirk Hammett	0	[0.00%]
Dave Mustaine	0	[0.00%]
Joe Satriani	1	[2.70%]
Gary Moore	1	[2.70%]
Zakk Wylde	0	[0.00%]
John Petrucci	8	[21.62%]
Adrian Smith	2	[5.41%]
Slash	0	[0.00%]
Alex Lifeson	3	[8.11%]
Glenn Tipton	1	[2.70%]
Kelly Johnson	0	[0.00%]
Jimi Hendrix	1	[2.70%]
You can not vote in this poll

Author	Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic
Phonebook Eater Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Metal Reviewer Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 500	Post Options Post Reply Quote Phonebook Eater Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 1:40pm
	since it's METAL guitar legends, I'll vote for Iommi. In other circumstances, Hendrix.
	My Album Reviews: http://audiopline.wordpress.com/ Movie Reviewing blog: http://moviepline.wordpress.com/

Certif1ed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 473	Post Options Post Reply Quote Certif1ed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 2:33am
	I still think that Dick Dale is the most overlooked legend of metal guitar... I know this thread is "greatest", but maybe he's still a contender; He regularly used to blow up his amps during gigs from overdriving them too heavily - and he used Fender 50 Watt jobs, the most powerful of the time. So Leo Fender created the 100 Watt amp, just for him - and both were happy! Leo Fender also got Dale to be the guinea-pig for his newly-invented Stratocaster guitar. Dale loved it, but, since he was left handed, and Fender hadn't got around to making a left-handed version, he had to re-string and play the thing upside down - remind you of anyone? Dick Dale was the first truly aggressive guitarist, despite playing what is unmistakably Surf Music (some say he invented it in the late 1950s) - but then, they hadn't even heard of heavy rock in those days, let alone heavy metal - it simply wasn't a style that anyone had ever played in. Dale used all manner of techniques which Judas Priest and a vast number of other metal bands would later use. The same could be said for Chuck Berry, of course, but every metal band who used Berry's licks turned up the gas on them and made them sound more aggressive, since Berry's tone was hardly hi-gain, and his style, while rockin', could hardly be said to be edgy or metallic. Dick Dale, on the other hand, had everything - rapid alternate picking that could be considered tremolo, except that he did not use it for a tremolo effect, he used it to make the music sound more muscular and aggressive. He also used unmistakably metal modes, hammer-ons and pull-offs and produced passages of music that Priest have re-cycled virtually note-for-note. I also seem to remember "No More Heroes" by The Stranglers beginning with a Dick Dale lick. Maybe that should be re-phrased... Dale recorded with the late great Stevie Ray Vaughan in the late 1980s - there's a video of his tune "Pipeline", and then in the early 1990s, recorded something that showcased his style against a more apropriate musical backdrop - listen to "Nitro" below. Anyway, here are a couple of examples - don't be thrown by the fact that this is undeiably surf music - listen to the guitar playing and think about the year in which it was played. Then cower before the true God of metal guitar... 1962 - Surf Beat You remain unconvinced by the guitar "stabs" as used later by Slayer? 1962 - Miserlou Now THAT's where Priest (and probably the Stranglers) got their sound from! 1993 - Nitro ...and check this out from Eddie and the Showmen in 1963 - surely a predecessor of heavy metal (as well as a logical progression of what Dale was doing); Hey, that sort of music was good enough for Ritchie Blackmore back then; So DICK DALE - could be a contender for the greatest, no? (Please note, this is an awareness raising post, to be taken with a few grains of salt!) Edited by Certif1ed - 08 Jun 2010 at 2:37am

AtomicCrimsonRush Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Metal Reviewer Joined: 21 May 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 602	Post Options Post Reply Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jun 2010 at 7:51am
	Intriguing post here ^ i hadnt thought of that, ho ho I think its interesting that Blackmore and Petrucci are neck to neck here
	GLAM METAL!

Sean Trane Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 124	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sean Trane Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 2:22am
	The triumvirate of Page/Blackmore/Iommi with Hendrix (not metal) , Van Halen closing the top five
	my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

Harry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Groupie Joined: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Melbourne, Aus Status: Offline Points: 84	Post Options Post Reply Quote Harry Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 6:40am
	Joe Satriani isn't really what I'd call a metal guitarist, but eh I voted for him since his lead playing is ultimately the most influential on my own style. Kirk Hammett is just a bag of complete suck, and Zakk is just a complete idiot "I'M A BIKER FROM THE SOUTH!" No, you're a goddamn kid from New Jersey, you douche. Dave Mustaine is the man. Yeah, he's been shown to be arrogant over the years, but I honestly think if you just talked to him one on one he's actually a much nicer guy than it seems. I think he just does the whole "MegaDave" thing for the media really, he's probably actually a really nice and humble guy. And his rhythm playing is just TIGHT. Big influence on my rhythm playing Dimebag Darrell. Another guitar hero of mine. From his leads to his rhythm, his style really cut me deep and affected the way I play. His monstrous grooves are just so infectious and sometimes I end playing riffs that sound too similar to his stuff for comfort because it's so ingrained in me now. Not on this list at all, but an honorable mention to Josh Middleton from Sylosis. Rhythm guitar skills are just completely off the wall and it's no wonder everyone that sees Sylosis live says Josh is the single most tightest guitarist they've ever seen live. I'd sit in my own urine for 2 months to be able to play like him.


1967/ 1976 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Location: Woman's heart Status: Offline Points: 302	Post Options Post Reply Quote 1967/ 1976 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 8:26am
	I vote for but or are another 2 Hell of axemen!!!


AtomicCrimsonRush Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Metal Reviewer Joined: 21 May 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 602	Post Options Post Reply Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 9:07am
	Great post here^ who is that last guitar legend? forgotten his name
	GLAM METAL!

whitedragon1969 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Groupie Joined: 01 Aug 2010 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 84	Post Options Post Reply Quote whitedragon1969 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 6:24pm
	Steve Vai because he is from another planet

1967/ 1976 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Location: Woman's heart Status: Offline Points: 302	Post Options Post Reply Quote 1967/ 1976 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 2010 at 9:22am
	Recently I discovered A great Power Metal axeman from Trieste. Extremely recommended!!!


kogaionon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Groupie Joined: 18 Aug 2010 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 99	Post Options Post Reply Quote kogaionon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 6:45pm
	i vote petrucci runner-up: ron jarzombek

alberto mu�oz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: M�xico Status: Offline Points: 108	Post Options Post Reply Quote alberto mu�oz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 12:13pm
	i don't know, too many favourites for me. Maybe for metal Kai Hansen or the guy of Destruction.

topofsm Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Metal Reviewer Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Location: Hate state, USA Status: Offline Points: 689	Post Options Post Reply Quote topofsm Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 11:00pm
	Voted for Vai. On the list he's probably my favorite. As for a less metal oriented shredder I always have to shout out for Buckethead. Sure, he's got a gimmick but he's an incredible musician too.
	Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want.

Lynx33 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator/Retired Admin Joined: 22 Oct 2010 Location: Hungary Status: Offline Points: 2033	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lynx33 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 4:41pm
	tony macalpine

The Crimson King Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Newbie Joined: 21 Oct 2010 Location: Down Under Status: Offline Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Crimson King Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Oct 2010 at 9:13am
	Dime

The Block Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: Philadelphia Status: Offline Points: 1627	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Block Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 4:26pm
	I may be a little bias towards DT, but I can't see many better than Petrucci.


The Angry Scotsman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 08 Aug 2010 Location: New Jersey, US Status: Offline Points: 1076	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Angry Scotsman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 1:42am
	"Black Sabbath's Tony Iommi is one of only two guitarists (the other being Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page) that can take full credit for pioneering the mammoth riffs of heavy metal." Greatest metal guitarist? The one who invented it perhaps? Iommi gets my vote
	Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan

AtomicCrimsonRush Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Metal Reviewer Joined: 21 May 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 602	Post Options Post Reply Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 7:03am
	^ a great choice here too. I love Iommi's riffs - I AM IRON MAAAAAAAAN dangdang dudduhdudhn dadadadadadaaaaaaaaa duhn duhn duhnnnnnnnn
	GLAM METAL!

UMUR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Errors & Omissions Team / Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 18229	Post Options Post Reply Quote UMUR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 7:48am
	^ A perfect explanation to how the Iron Man riff sounds. Down to the right rythm and everything.
	Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! UMUR on RYM

The Block Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: Philadelphia Status: Offline Points: 1627	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Block Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Nov 2010 at 5:39pm
	^


martindavey87 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Error & Omissions Team Joined: 20 Apr 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 109	Post Options Post Reply Quote martindavey87 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Nov 2010 at 4:39am
	John Petrucci. But since they're not on the list, here's a mention of Michael Romeo, Chris Caffery and Johan Reinholdz. \m/ \m/