Least favourite metal sub-genre

J-Man, a lot of the fastest shredders around came from glam bands.  That doesn't mean they're better musicians, just that they w**k more

My least favourite must be metalcore

I cannot stand Industrial Metal. Even black metal and those horrid vocals are better than industrial metal.

A friend tried getting me into Bile once. It didn't go over to well.

My friend J-Man when I'm talking about "exteme" and "heavy" guys I'm talking about all these low technic bands who produse noise because of the low level of their technical skills. Never had a dillema between technique and emotion because if you really want to "take out" what's inside your mind you MUST have a good level of technical skills. In simple words you must know how to play your instrument. And yes many times I'm very tired of all these "extreme' bands with the three chord songs who finally put some acoustic parts at their fourth album and call it "music progress". I'm not a mucisian - my brother is - but I heard a lot of "guitarists" who don't like the "cold with out feeling" kind of playing of Malmsteen or Randy Rhoads and - guess what my friend - most of them they didn't know how to play properly a simple version of "Smoke On The Water" a three chord song... Anyway I think that some people at the sub-genre of Glam Metal they found the "easy target' to burry some very good Hard Rock bands including my self when I was many years younger. It's very easy to critisize the "light" sound of Faster Pussycat for example and the "girl like" look they have but what about fake blood at Slayer's photos from their first album? Who is the "poser"? Notice that personally I like both of these two bands...

whitedragon1969 wrote: My friend J-Man when I'm talking about "exteme" and "heavy" guys I'm talking about all these low technic bands who produse noise because of the low level of their technical skills. Never had a dillema between technique and emotion because if you really want to "take out" what's inside your mind you MUST have a good level of technical skills. In simple words you must know how to play your instrument. And yes many times I'm very tired of all these "extreme' bands with the three chord songs who finally put some acoustic parts at their fourth album and call it "music progress". I'm not a mucisian - my brother is - but I heard a lot of "guitarists" who don't like the "cold with out feeling" kind of playing of Malmsteen or Randy Rhoads and - guess what my friend - most of them they didn't know how to play properly a simple version of "Smoke On The Water" a three chord song... Anyway I think that some people at the sub-genre of Glam Metal they found the "easy target' to burry some very good Hard Rock bands including my self when I was many years younger. It's very easy to critisize the "light" sound of Faster Pussycat for example and the "girl like" look they have but what about fake blood at Slayer's photos from their first album? Who is the "poser"? Notice that personally I like both of these two bands...

Honestly I don't care to get involved in an argument about whether or not glam metal musicians are more talented than extreme metal musicians. My intention was actually the contrary. I wanted to point out that this: "And by the way the members of these band many times are much better musicians than many "extreme" and "heavy" guys..." isn't a fair response. Neither are your constant stereotypes in your most recent reply.

It's a case-by-case basis. The definition of a "better musician" varies from person to person, and saying that most glam bands have better musicians than extreme metal musicians is just plain ignorant. Keep in mind that in many cases I agree with you.

whitedragon1969 wrote: J-Man all I wanted to say was this: Some people NOT ALL when they talking about Glam Metal mysteriously focusing at the image ONLY. But anyone can understand this: At the end of day the only thing that matters is how many good songs you're left behind. And the Glam Metal bands have a lot of good songs. And I insist that Glam Metal is the "easy target" for many people. Talking tomorrow because in Greece is 5.20 AM and I need some sleep! I will explain my opinion much better tomorrow.

OK - that makes more sense.

Your argument changed a bit here... originally you said that most glam bands have better musicians than extreme metal bands (which is, like I said earlier, a bit benighted). Your new point is pretty unarguable (at least for me). Glam bands are an easy target for many people due to their "popstar" imagery and lyrics.

Then again, who can deny similarities like this:

You gotta give Gene Simmons credit for being awesome, even if you don't like Kiss 

ABBATH 

I never really liked avant-garde metal. I like some of FZ avant-garde stuff, but the two don't mix well.

Black Metal, Sludge/Post-Metal.