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Morningrise
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Needless to say where my vote went.
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lucas
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A "death metal giants" poll without Death, Entombed, Obituary, Dismember, Carcass, Suffocation ??????????????????
Well, I vote for Morbid Angel of course ("extreme music for extreme people"). My second vote would go to Cannibal Corpse, I saw them last year on stage they kicked ass.
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EM Hearst
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Morbid Angel will always be my favorite Death Metal band... Cannibal Corpse probably second. Suffocation, Immolation, Incantation, and Nile are up there too on the all-time greatest list...
Opeth are w**kers... their best album was the most un-metal one: Damnation. They'd be a great straight-up Camel-ish retro-Prog band, i just find their metal side dull. |
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MAVIIIVAM
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As far as your List:
My vote went to Opeth (and that said, I've been a Fan since Still Life, then purchased Blackwater Park and went backwards in their catalogue and been a die-hard fan ever since). I have known about Opeth since their 1st album Orchid, from reading about them in a Great long-gone Extreme Metal Magizine that was called Ill Literature. It had a great description about their music and was very intriguing. I have no idea why I never got around to buying all those albums all those years. I then saw them open for Nevermore (the Dead Heart in a Dead World Tour) for their "Blackwater Park" album and I was... stunned! So was Akerfeldt! He was soo gracious and even a bit timid to hear such a warm reception to their 1st time in the US. What can I say, I like all the facits and layers of making their Death Metal very unique (If you like it or not) and they have had great musicians in their line-ups. But I do like Nile in that pure Death Metal sence, and that they are technical is cool too, and also Guitarist & Vocalist Karl Sanders is interested in Egyptology and other Middle Eastern history- ups the wow factor 10 fold. Excellent Music! Cannibal Corpse- I admire them for their sheer musical talent, but the Gore Lyrics, I'm not a fan of the genre (sorry, I'm just really into lyrics and that stuff depresses me). In Flames- I am more of a fan of the "Whoracle" era and previous albums. Morbid Angel- Fan of their later years. I think other Bands that are the "Icons" of Old School (and reletively newer) that I admire: 1. Death- from "Human" to "The Sound of Perseverence" are my fave era. "Individule Thought Patterns" is my favorite album. Chuck Shuldiner is probably my fave Death/"Cookie Monster" vocalist 1st, then Akerfeldt, as far as understanding what they are singing for the most part. 2. Carcass- Even though they are one of the Bands that started Gore/Grindcore it was unique, but "Tools of the Trade" to "Swansong" are my fave era with "Heartworks" being my fave, a brilliant album. 3. Meshuggah- I'm a huge fan, these are the newer kids on the block I guess with Opeth (what, its been 20 + years now?), Meshuggah and Opeth have also been put in the Progressive Metal catagory as well , so they are both very diverse. I put Meshuggah in the Death/Math catagory because if you tell the average Progger or Metalhead theyre "Death Metal" , they'll have a pre- concieved notion what it might be. I just believe this music should be used to catapolt Tiger Tanks at low flying 747's while being shot at with 50mm Vulcan Canons. 4. Sepultura- I know I know, the "kids" will say "Thats Thrash", but when they started, they were considered Death Metal. Unfortunately I think they lost their way after the Band broke apart (the 1st time), but my faves are, "Beneath the Remains", "Arise" and "Chaos A.D.". 6. Pestilence- One of the 1st to be technical and yet brutal, they then tried to get into the early days of "Math/Tech Metal" but I just couldnt get into it, and I'm a Prog fan. Something about the Guitar Tone they switched to and those annoying Keyboard sounds overpowered the Guitars. "Malleus Malificarum" and "Consuming Impulse" are my faves. I have not heard their latest but looking forward to it. 7. Malevolent Creation- I have heard most of their early albums but "Retribution" should be considered a Classic! Freakin' MEAN Cookie Vocals but you can understand him clearly, these guys were not only fast but accurate not sloppy. Alex Marquez on Drums should be up there with the greats. Brett Hofman the Vocalist really emphasises the anger of the Lyrics, especially in the song "Slaughter of Innocense" about a serial killer and the Revengeful gutteral scream against him ". . . DIE! - MOTHER - f**kERRRRRR!!!!!!" sums it all up. Any Violence in the lyrics is more to tell a blunt story, not for sheer shock value and I respect that. The Guitar Duo are violent as Chainsaws cutting through shards of steel, but again, precise and well executed. I also like: Necrophagist, Gorod, Gardenian, Darkane, Extol, Soilwork, Arch Enemy (older albums, but later era is good as well), Napalm Death, Decapitated, Atrocity, Mourning Sign, At the Gates, Rosicrusion, Oppressor, Cryptopsy, Goreguts (later years), Emperor (later years), Ihshan, Scar Symmetry, Edge of Sanity ("Crimson", another highly influencial album) and Loudblast. I'm a little behind on the newer guys, but I like the Technical with the Brutality. I'm into Thrash and Tech-Thrash/Math Metal as well. If you are a Opeth fan, I suggest checking out: 1. My Dying Bride (The originators of that "sound") 2. Winds 3. Leprous 4. Enochian Theory 5. Novembers Doom Good to be a part of this new Forum from PA! I can be a "Newbie" with everyone else now Bang On! Edited by MAVIIIVAM - 04 Mar 2011 at 10:22pm |
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mosefus
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I'd pitch my tent in the Morbid Angel camp, though I like all of these
bands to varying degrees.
In Flames were a firm favourite - I have a tattoo for the sake of all our Christ's - though, in recent times, they have become too tame and radio friendly to be acceptable. Cannibal Corpse are always good for a laugh, and are a band that I name check regularly when in the mood to shock sensitive sorts. Opeth do little for me. Too interested in impressing with their musical technicality, I do tend to nod off mid way through most songs. I've tried, folks, more than thrice, but they err towards the tedious. As for Nile, well, I love it when they slow down from time to time. Lashed to the Slave Stick is one of my all time favourites, even though they didn't write the main hook (this is the incidental music from Stephen King's Cat's Eye) and the last section of Black Seeds of Vengeance is frighteningly effective. But yeah, favourite death band. Got to be Morbid Angel.... |
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Melomaniac
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Kind of unfair for the other bands as they are all pure death metal acts (except In Flames of late) and Opeth is not, but hey, I vote Opeth !
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alberto mu�oz
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Where is Death actually?
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elder08
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Really Cannibal Corpse is so low on votes DAMNNNNNNNNNITTTTTTTTTT
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I scrolled through the offended page and listened to cannibal corpse while masturbating.-elder08
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Beekeeper
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They would have been a much better choice than In Flames. |
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Harry
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One of those polls where I find it almost impossible to vote. Each band is equally important as the next in the death metal genre.
Hell I'll give my vote to Morbid Angel, simply because at this moment in time I enjoy them the most out of this list |
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FusionKing
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Actually, although I don't really care for Death Metal, I'm just curious about something...what do you guys think of 'Master'?
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Beekeeper
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Groundbreaking for their time and one or two great songs but you only really need to listen to one of them, any more and you're likely to get bored pretty quick. |
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bonnek
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Opeth, my favourite at everything. |
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lucas
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Yesterday I saw Bolt Thrower on stage. That was fabulous.
And they ARE death metal giants. i woud stongly recommend the album 'war master' : |
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topofsm
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^And they have a giant death metal sound to boot.
Anyways, I don't see how In Flames is important really. Popular to be sure, maybe the prototypical mainstream melodeath. Opeth is similar though not so much, they've had enough time to influence more progressive bands. |
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Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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OPETH!
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GLAM METAL!
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DeKay
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In Flames for me
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Vic
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What? Opeth? Winning a "Death metal giants" poll?
Not many death metal fans here, eh? :P OK, I voted without any hesitation for Morbid Angel, who along with Cannibal Corpse are the only Death Metal Giants in the list. Favourite album is Altars of Madness for me but I'll listen to any of the first four. The list needs (based on the title. Giants mean best and most historical in my opinion): American: Death Possessed Morbid Angel Obituary Deicide Sadus Atheist Cynic Malevolent Creation, Suffocation, Immolation (the MAJOR "-ation" bands!) Cannibal Corpse Master UK: Carcass, Napalm Death, Bolt Thrower, Benediction Europe generally (OK, maybe Sweden deserves a special mention too): Entombed, Dismember, Unleashed, At the Gates, Morgoth, Pestilence, Autopsy, Grave, Vader, Pungent Stench This is the starting list. In Flames and Opeth shouldn't be considered a Death Metal band really, and Nile is modern brutal death/grind, which is death metal of course but a newer distinct style. I am the old-school type fan! Sorry for the rant! Any fans of Brutality here??
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MAVIIIVAM
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I dont get this "Opeth is not a death metal band" . . .
I mean, how many of us listened to "Orchid" when it came out? Each album after they progressed into something out of the norm, thats what appeals to us I would imagine, as we listen to the "brutal" stuff, the "Gothenburg" sound, "The Florida Death Metal scene" and all the other locals/sub-genres that fit within Death Metal. As Akerfeldt has said in the Documentary on the "Lamentation" DVD, "Opeth will always be a Death Metal Band...", it has been his intention all along, but why be like all the others-he wanted to do something different with the genre. Same went for Carcass, everyone started to copy the Gore-metal/Technical Medical Jargon, and decided to be a bit more "musical" yet stay brutal (Death can say the same). . . . Thinking outside the box. I'm into the old school brutality as well (see my previous list) but I am VERY picky what I like, and many of the Death Metal I do like alot that are a bit more technical-I put in the "Math Metal" catagory. By the way, Nile death grind? I mean, Napalm Death has gone back to that type of sound and Soilent Green, Nasum, Dying Fetus and Cephalic Carnage (and the like-in the NWOGrind Core era) are still doing the same sound, but Nile is akin to the more technical Death Metal in vein of Decapitated, Goreguts, Cryptopsy etc. Anyways I guess this is where we'll pick up knives, I'll pick a rusty spoon, its more brutal Edited by MAVIIIVAM - 04 Mar 2011 at 10:24pm |
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Triceratopsoil
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I hadn't voted in this yet, so seeing as it's been resurrected I'll toss one the way of Morbid Angel. And yes, this poll desperately needs some Death.
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