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The Angry Scotsman
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Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal!
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genghiscon
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I think in terms of consistency thru the length of their collective careers, Hands Down, you have to go with Megadeth. Even their worst albums like Risk and Cryptic Writings are still more passable than St. Anger or Diabolus In Musica.
And while Master of Puppets or Reign in Blood are considered 5 star classics against Megadeths Peace Sells or Rust in Peace , Megadeth really has had stronger albums overall. Not to mention, Dave has arguably had better musicians surrounding him during his tenure. I would dare say Menza and Friedman would make Metallica better than they have ever been with Ulrich and Hammett. Just my two cents, but felt it deserved saying....
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I got Rock N Roll to save me from the cold, and if thats all there is, that aint so bad. Rock N Roll! - Lemmy
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Woutjinho
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Slayer, eventhough they have crappy albums too (just like all the others),
Anthrax is pretty cool, never been a huge fan.
Megadeth, never liked it really. I hate Dave Mustain's whiney voice. Plus the lyrics are so stupid.
Metallica, they do have great albums. But nowadays, on stage... Eventhough Tom Araya can't headbang anymore, he's still a much better performer than James Hettfield. Plus he's vocally so much better. James hettfield doesn't scream anymore, he does some singing as if he's in a pop rock band.
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S33T
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I really really don't like slayer at all..
I can listen to it, but I'll never put it on bymyself.. that's also for metallica.. Megadeth is closer to okay.. and then I'll only be there for anthrax..
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Time Signature
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Exodus :-P
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Zargus
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Megadeth.
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Kingcrimsonprog
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I really expected Slayer to win here. Surprising result.
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S33T
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I think it's just that slayer is really know'n by many people, and a lot of people are screaming slayer in some random concerts *what's really anoying..'' but when it comes to good music! slayer is far from it :D My boyfriend tries to convince me that they have some good albums. but still. NO :D
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192 juicy bodies of children. I'm a sadist.
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Woutjinho
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If anyone likes some thrash metal, I would say they'd also like some Slayer. Not like a fan or something, but it's good quality music. It's like you listen to brutal death metal and you don't like Suffocation or Cannibal Corpse. When I'm at no-metal festivals, I tend to scream Slayer pretty often when I'm drunk :PPlus, Metallica is far more famous in general. So I would expect them to win. Allthough, I thought they'd lose on most metal forum for selling out to metal music. But I quess I'm wrong.
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Time Signature
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I like all four bands. All of them have had unimpressive output and really amazing output, and they are different enough from each other that I can't really compare them. When I was young I listened more to Metallica and Megadeth than Slayer and Anthrax, but nowadays I like the bands equally much.
Really, it ought to be The Big Six with Testament and Exodus included. Edited by Time Signature - 11 Nov 2011 at 2:27pm |
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Triceratopsoil
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This, although I'd probably still have voted Megadeth. It would change my 2nd and 3rd choices, though. I think Slayer would be way better if Kerry King wasn't allowed to play "solos" |
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genghiscon
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I agree to an extent with Time Sig and Tri-Top that Exodus and Testament should be revered with the Big Four for their contributions to the genre. I think were they stumble there is that they never got the publicity, critical acclaim and sales that the Big Four did, so they don't get lumped in. Having seen all six bands in concert, I think they all have game and put on good shows.
I think there may be the like-ability factor working against Slayer. Not the most cuddly band in the world...lol. Metallica, yeah, they get a lot of votes from their early work. But, you would think that their later work (and the fact that Lars and James' egos have turned them into another Gene and Paul from KISS) would take away a lot of votes, too. Dave is abrasive and can be off-putting, but I can't help but admire him for cleaning up his act from his younger days, personally. And poor Anthrax. I love the guys. I just think the John Bush thing never quite worked for me (not counting Sound of White Noise...which I thought was brilliant) Too many sub-par albums in a row killed all the momentum they had built during the Belladonna era. Aren't you guys glad you didn't ask for my opinion?
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I got Rock N Roll to save me from the cold, and if thats all there is, that aint so bad. Rock N Roll! - Lemmy
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Woutjinho
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Testament and Exodus could make it into a big six indeed. I suppose.
And indeed, Kerry King's solos suck most of the times. Especially the new ones I've heard (only once). Jeff Hanneman always was the better guitarist, but somehow Kerry King is far more famous and admired... Just because he has tattoos on his head or something? Never understand it. Jeff Hanneman is way better, hands down.
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Time Signature
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Kerry King's fucked up solos are an integrated part of the Slayer sound, as are Hanneman'. I've never been botherred with one of then being better than the other, though.
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Riitasointi
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About Jeff and Kerry:
C'mon guys! Kerry is clearly much better guitarist than Jeff. His riffing is way smoother and more precise, whereas Jeff tries to keep up with the tempo with his odd right hand technique and makes lots of little mistakes all the time. That being said, Jeff is a lot better songwriter than Kerry. Ever heard of Angel of Death, South of Heaven, War Ensembe, Raining Blood, Seasons In The Abyss? So basically, Jeff writes the riffs and Kerry plays them I think my favourite of these four is Megadeth, although I think they are all really good. Everyone knows Metallica's music is sloppy after Black Album but they still kill live! |
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I�m a Slayer fanboy taken to the extreme. It hasn�t always been like that, but in the last 15 years I�ve really loved them to death. Especially Reign in Blood, South of Heaven and Seasons in the Abyss. As far as thrash metal goes, nothing beats those albums in my book.
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genghiscon
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QFT All the poo-pooing over Jeff and Kerry's noodling isn't really the issue. If Araya's bass playing and technique were stronger and higher in the mix, it would elevate Slayer to an even higher degree. Of that I have no doubt at all.
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I got Rock N Roll to save me from the cold, and if thats all there is, that aint so bad. Rock N Roll! - Lemmy
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Woutjinho
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I think Araya's bass is pretty cool on Hell Awaits for example.
But have anyone heard Lulu of Metallica? I just heard a part of one song. I think it's classified as rock instead of metal.
Plus; I think it's really really really shameful that the big four tour was actually a Metallica tour with the big three as support acts. They all have been influential so I think they all should switch from gig to gig who should headline.
I didn't want to go, especially because of the costs, but also because I assumed the majority will be Metallica fans rather than BIG FOUR fans. I want to headbang and hangout with people who like Anthrax, Megadeth en Slayer as well. Here is an example for how emberrassing this is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0KNYeKvT1Y&feature=related
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Pekka
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There's some mad thrash on Lulu as well, it's pretty metal in places definitely.
And yeah, a co-headlining thing would have been cool to do, but the harsh truth is that Metallica is the most popular metal band in the world, and nobody's going to play after them, except for the Rolling Stones.
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Just send me to Deutschland, because I want Kreator.
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