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THe Power to Believe in NON-METAL??? |
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Tupan 
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 Topic: THe Power to Believe in NON-METAL???Posted: 02 May 2011 at 9:01am |
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Hey guys, The Power to Believe, by King Crimson, is Non-Metal? For me is very metal, very aggressive!
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Stooge
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 9:30am |
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It was decided that King Crimson be added to the site on the merits of some of their early work only, which had an influence on a number of metal bands to follow and had its metal moments. There was consideration over adding some of their other material under a metal category, but the collaborators couldn't come to an agreement as to which subgenre their later material could fit under. We decided to label them non-metal.
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Tupan
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 9:52am |
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Why don't just "Progressive Metal"? I think it's fit to their 90', material.
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UMUR
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 10:05am |
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As long as the Collabs on the site are not 100% in agreement where to place the albums, they will remain in the non-metal catagory. This is a metal site, and since we have the opportunity to tag on album level, we are tagging albums that we don�t feel have enough "metal" elements on them with a non-metal tag.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 2:18pm |
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I think we are still debating that, officially. Myself and the avant-metal team (which was much larger at the time :| ) decided it didn't belong there, and recommended a move to alt-metal; however, as it turns out, the alt-metal team recommended a move to avant-metal.
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UMUR
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 2:28pm |
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The thing is, that it�s not much of a priority right now. We have much more important database editing to spend our time on. Discussions in the Collab zone about the tagging of King Crimson albums will have to wait until the database is in a better shape. Max has signalled that reviewing non-metal albums will be implemented at some point in the future and then maybe it won�t matter as much anymore.
The discussion will without a doubt commence at some point, but let�s spend out time doing more urgent things right now.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 2:52pm |
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Actually, upon review, Thrak was the only KC album officially brought to the avant-metal team. As is stood then, and I think as it still stands, I would support addition of any of the last 3 KC albums to avant-metal BUT my "colleague" Paperbag and (former avant team member and honourary collaborator) Any Colour You Like have both declined THRAK. Neither of them has really given a position on TPtB or TCoL.
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Time Signature
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Posted: 03 May 2011 at 6:05pm |
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Is it because you'd like to review it, Tupan?
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Posted: 08 May 2011 at 9:06am |
Yea whatever happened to Paperbag? He seemed like he was serious about collabing. But it was me who brought THRAK to the avant team. At that point I had never heard TPtB, and I brought TCoL to the alt team, which was shot down. Now that I've heard TPrB, I would support an inclusion to either avant or alt, but I'm on neither team so it's not up to me as much as it is to them.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: 08 May 2011 at 1:47pm |
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Hmm, well if Paperbag isn't around to ask, I would be okay with putting TPtB and TCoL into avant-metal. I think we still have to acknowledge that Thrak was shot down, of course.
If an admin agrees with me (and I think they do, judging from the old discussion in the alt- thread) I will move those two albums to avant-metal. |
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Posted: 08 May 2011 at 3:15pm |
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Just my two cents, Thrak should be moved to alt/prog/avant but something...
I'd also agree with TCoL and TPtB On another note since this comment seems to have gotten missed, why is Lizard listed here on MMA???? I'd hate to lose the ratings but that needs to be moved seriously  Edited by The Angry Scotsman - 08 May 2011 at 3:16pm |
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Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal!
Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: 08 May 2011 at 9:01pm |
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re:Lizard, 3 of the tracks on the album I could see as proto-metal, honestly
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