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    Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 3:06am
Please forgive me if this has been posted before but I rarely come in here(but maybe I will more now).

Anyway, I'm just curious as to what that album might be. I know that many albums pre 1980 and or the NWOBHM are listed as proto metal on here and I can understand that label for the most part but I'm just curious as to the earliest album listed here that is not labled "proto metal."

I saw that Judas Priest's "sad wings of destiny" from 1976 is labled "traditional heavy metal." Is there one on here earlier than that?


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I think most pre 1975 albums are listed as either non or proto metal on MMA, but maybe members of the proto team can answer that better than me. As far as I remember "Sad Wings of Destiny" was actually used as an example of one of the very first "real" metal albums in history as in contrast to the more blues based heavy rock/metal albums of the early seventies. But again I�m probably not the best to answer the question.Smile
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There are a few albums from 1974 tagged either trad or glam, but maybe those are mistagged? Select 1974 on the top albums filter. 
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Technically, 1975 is the cut-off year, and there probably are some releases that need re-tagging.
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Technically NO Kiss albums before Creatures are glam metal (they are glam rock with hard rock tendencies), they are tagged glam metal just because we don't have glam rock category, the same can be said about some 70's Alice Cooper and Sweet albums, which are not tagged proto metal because of the cut off year. Normally, there was no glam metal before 1981-1982 before Twisted Sister or Dokken. Maybe we can tag albums between 1975-1981 hard rock. and with Kiss 1974 albums proto metal.

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Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

I think most pre 1975 albums are listed as either non or proto metal on MMA, but maybe members of the proto team can answer that better than me. As far as I remember "Sad Wings of Destiny" was actually used as an example of one of the very first "real" metal albums in history as in contrast to the more blues based heavy rock/metal albums of the early seventies. But again I�m probably not the best to answer the question.Smile


A lot of people seem to think Black Sabbath were pure heavy metal right from the get go and by the time of Masters of Reality(if not Paranoid)they had lost the blues influence. They sound pretty much straightforward metal to me though but if the moderators on here want to call Black Sabbath before "heaven and hell" proto metal that's fine by me. THey are one of the few 70's bands I would call heavy metal and not proto though along with JP, Motorhead and maybe a few others.
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Ok I just saw that UFO's "phenomenon" from 1974 is listed as "traditional heavy metal" so so far that's the earliest non proto metal album I have seen on here. If anyone knows of anything earlier(still not sure why Black Sabbath is considered proto since they seem to be universally acclaimed as the first true metal band(and I happen to agree with that)) please tell me which ones. 
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OK, I suppose maybe it's the Scorpion's "lonesome crow" from 1972.
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