|
Larks Tongues In Aspic proto metal? |
Post Reply 
|
| Author | |
Phonebook Eater 
MMA Metal Reviewer 
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 500 |
 Post Options
 Thanks(0)
 Quote Reply
 Topic: Larks Tongues In Aspic proto metal?Posted: 29 Apr 2010 at 2:43pm |
|
I just listened to a piece of the "Larks Tongues In Aspic" song (part 1) , and I thought that some of the heavier parts could also be classified as a sort of proto metal, or at least proto prog metal. Don't you think?
|
|
 |
|
|
Negoba
MMA Special Collaborator 
Honorary Collaborator Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 217 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 29 Apr 2010 at 2:57pm |
|
Crimson contributed to metal in a distant way. While what you say is true, I don't think adding KC to this site is good for MMA.
|
|
|
We're gonna do a little number featuring Randy Rhoads...
Wine is fine but whisky's quicker. That's what Rock n' Roll's About!!!! |
|
|
|
|
Stooge
MMA Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator/Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Whitby, ON, CAN Status: Offline Points: 5637 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 29 Apr 2010 at 4:12pm |
My thoughts exactly. Perhaps once the site is established, some of their albums could qualify for inclusion in proto-metal (Wetton-era KC definitely has a case). There are plenty of other acts to discuss for now. |
|
|
|
|
Raff
Forum Senior Member 
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1006 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 29 Apr 2010 at 6:19pm |
|
Please, guys, remember this:
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=418 Unfortunately, as most of us have learned on PA, many music fans - proggers and metalheads alike - tend to be very close-minded, and react badly to anything they consider outside the boundaries of their favourite genres. Personally, I agree with Nick about the heaviness of Larks', and especially of Red, but my own personal opinion does not count anything if compared to the good of the site. |
|
|
|
|
topofsm
MMA Metal Reviewer
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Location: Hate state, USA Status: Offline Points: 689 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 29 Apr 2010 at 6:21pm |
|
LTIA pt 1 is in my opinion one of the heaviest songs I've ever heard, especially coming from the seventies. Pt 2 is just as abrasive but not quite as heavy. I'd certainly call parts of one metal at least. Probably the earliest signs of avant-garde metal.
Anyways, 21st Century Schizoid man came before it.  |
|
|
Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want.
|
|
|
|
|
Phonebook Eater
MMA Metal Reviewer
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 500 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 6:54am |
|
I'm not saying that KC should be in MMA, I'm just making an observation of LTIA, and how many prog bands(Van der graaf Generator also) gave some little hints to what would eventually be defined as metal
 .
|
|
|
|
|
micky
Forum Senior Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 378 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 5:06pm |
feeling sort of intellectual today... so let me tell you my opinion on that. pffff... ranks up there with calling Red proto-grunge simply because Cobain liked the album... no wait... is Willie Nelson pre-grunge  he has as much to do with grunge as KC does with ..metal... good think ol' Kurt didn't have a thing for Willie Nelson... |
|
|
|
|
FusionKing
Forum Senior Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 327 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 16 May 2010 at 3:17pm |
|
Larks Tongues...a proto metal song? ...mmm...possibly. |
|
|
|
|
harmonium.ro
Forum Senior Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Location: Paris Status: Offline Points: 141 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:16pm |
|
There is definitely a metal ingredient in the much more complex soup which ITCOTCK, LTIA and Red are. So my position is that even though the metal is there, they shouldn't be qualified as such - a metal band, of any kind.
|
|
|
|
|
lucas
Forum Senior Member
Joined: 31 Mar 2010 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 220 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:06pm |
One could argue that Neil Young could be included in the site if we regard grunge as subgenre of metal (cf 'mirror ball'). |
|
|
|
|
FusionKing
Forum Senior Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 327 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 17 May 2010 at 1:53pm |
|
^
Grunge is separate from metal, I think. Far too chilled out in comparison.
 |
|
|
|
|
Sean Trane
Forum Senior Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 124 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 19 May 2010 at 4:59am |
Larks Tongues In Aspic proto metal?
In the US back in the 70's, Crimson was considered killer metal music
|
|
|
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
|
|
|
|
|
AtomicCrimsonRush
MMA Metal Reviewer
Joined: 21 May 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 602 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 21 May 2010 at 4:56am |
|
They have certainly heavy properties you might say but King crimson are progressive rock and alwasy will be. They were never metal and i have everything they have done, none of it is metal - but they were of course pioneers.
|
|
|
|
|
topofsm
MMA Metal Reviewer
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Location: Hate state, USA Status: Offline Points: 689 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 1:46am |
|
Just because Crimson's a complete prog band doesn't mean they can't make a metal song...
|
|
|
Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want.
|
|
|
|
|
Time Signature
MMA Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 7690 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Jun 2010 at 10:29am |
|
Certainly, the LTIA tracks contain some very heavy parts, and KC has influenced metal. Several metal musicians are fans of KC, and I've read somewhere that Steve Harris liked KC a lot.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Raff
Forum Senior Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1006 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Jun 2010 at 1:10pm |
|
Steve Harris is a big prog fan, and I think Jethro Tull are his favourite band - so I wouldn't be surprised if he also liked KC.
|
|
|
|
|
Time Signature
MMA Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 7690 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Jun 2010 at 1:19pm |
|
^ I think I read it in either "Run to the Hills" or that other Maiden biography. He also mentioned early Genesis in "The Early Years" as a major inspiration.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Black Flag
Forum Newbie 
Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 20 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Jun 2010 at 9:34pm |
|
I was listening to those records when they came out, nobody sounded heavier than KC, not Zep, not Sabbath and not Blue Cheer.
|
|
|
|
|
ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member
Joined: 19 Jan 2013 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 2490 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 27 Aug 2014 at 3:44pm |
|
LTiA is a progressive rock album and that's that. Next!
Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - 27 Aug 2014 at 7:29pm |
|
|
"Before you see the light you must die!!!!!!!!!!" - Slayer
"Today is born the seventh one, born of woman, the seventh son" - Steve Harris |
|
|
|
|
Post Reply
|
|
Tweet
|
| Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |
Topic Options
Negoba wrote: