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I like labels too, just not ones that serve no purpose. But labels are just things people come up with so I think we probably all have some we just plain don't believe in. I don't even believe in Viking Metal for example, and that's not even one of these fairly recent ones like djent. To use your own logic about taking something off the shelf, the term djent tells me nothing. It could usually be prog based or core based, or just as easily something else entirely.
We're going off topic, so I'll wrap this up and as you said, agree to disagree: Labels aside, I don't like the djent sound either, be it a genre or not, I find it boring after a few tracks. Maybe I've just been listening to the wrong bands, but I remember getting a djent sampler free and thinking most of it was terrible.
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All labels serve some sort of purpose. If they didn't have a function, they wouldn't be created in the first place.
But yes, whether one believes in them or not is a personal matter. There are lots of genre labels that I do not believe in, but I recognize that they all serve a communicative purpose. |
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adg211288
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Well I'm defining no purpose in this case as having no purpose other than do exactly the same thing as something else, which I strongly feel that djent, when used as a genre label rather than a tone, among others, is doing.
I think it's also important to note the difference between a tag and a genre. djent as a tag I can accept because of the guitar tone thing, but as a genre no way. I do think though that there are some bands, unrelated to djent, who just seem to go out of their way to make up a unique genre name to brand themselves with only to produce music that is pretty generic. There was this band, Inmate I think their name was, who posted over at the Heavy Metal Haven forums to promote their stuff, did it in the wrong section and rather than help me and my team over there find where their thread should be place fobbed us off with some rubbish about being a 'new age metal' band, which I guess is where some of my bitterness towards such tags comes from, since their representative that day riled me up pretty bad due to his or her unwillingness to give us a straight answer, which ultimately was in their interests as well, because people typically go looking for one genre in the section that is labelled as that genre, not somewhere else if you get what I mean. Turned out in this case the band played melodeath, very typical melodeath IMO, it reminded me of In Flames and the like. I apologise if any of that bitterness shows in my posts in this topic by the way. All I can say is I like things organised, and throwing too many needless genres into the mix would turn things into chaos IMO. Far as I'm concerned if it can already be called prog or thrash or metalcore or whatever, then it doesn't need to new genre name made up for it. Bands may do something different to others but that's called variation, not being a different genre. One of these days I'll learn how to write shorter posts in topics as well.
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