Albums we've been told to hate but we don't ...
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Topic: Albums we've been told to hate but we don't ...
Posted By: FusionKing
Subject: Albums we've been told to hate but we don't ...
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2010 at 1:16pm
| Everyone's heard the hate, the hype, the horror from almost everyone when it comes to certain albums... ...Some say 'everything metallica did after 'And Justice For All' should be burned at the stake'. Others say that 'Motley Crue's albums between '93 and '97 should be shoved down a toilet and merrily flushed away'. Some even go as far as to say that a whole rock genre should never have happened, for example, 'grunge should have had an atomic bomb dropped on it before Nirvana got the chance to make it big with Nevermind'. We've all heard this stuff before...but to you, my fellow misfits, I dedicate this thread, to you who love the rock and metal albums that everyone else hates. You may list them here and you might just find that you're not alone in your rebellion after all! |
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Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2010 at 1:32pm
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I was thinking of making a similar topic - in fact i did on the 2 prog forums i often write, but with prog albums, of course. here are some examples of mine - Queensryche - Hear in the now frontier (not a great album but I like it) Kreator - Endorama (never understood why so many dislike it, just because it's an isolated experiment) Metallica - Load Iron Maiden - X Factor (I like it a lot) Def Leppard - Slang (trying to fit in with the times, it's hard to survive in the mainstream, still i enjoy this album, last DL listenable for me) Testament - The Ritual (yes, not a thrash album, so what? great vocals and excellent guitar work) Megadeth - Risk (yes i like it, although it's not great, it's enjoyable for me) surely there are others, I'll be back...
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2010 at 1:44pm
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Here's mine...
Risk- Megadeth
Load- Metallica
Chinese Democracy- Guns 'n' Roses
St. Anger- Metallica
Caress Of Steel- Rush
Technical Ecstacy- Black Sabbath
Never Say Die- Black Sabbath
Drama- Yes
Duke- Genesis (the phil haters told me not to)
Abacab- Genesis (^ same again...)
In Through The Out Door- Led Zeppelin
Slippery When Wet- Bon Jovi (the bon jovi haters told me not to)
Demolition- Judas Priest
The Division Bell- Pink Floyd
Katy Lied- Steely Dan
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Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2010 at 1:54pm
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Division Bell bad??!! wtf? I also love Technical Ecstasy (except for that cheesy ballad She's Gone  )You mentioned Yes - Drama - that's one of my favourite Yes albums. Genesis - Duke is a good album as well. I love Presence and In Through the Out Door - Led Zep did no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I also forgot Deep Purple - Abandon and Bananas which i really enjoyed. I also like Uriah Heep's Abominog which is an acquired taste for many. Caress of Steel bad??!! well some people don't like Geddy's early vocals. Bon Jovi's Sleepery when wet is not bad at all. Their 2007 album Lost Highway is their weakest IMO, although there are a few good songs on it.
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FusionKing wrote:Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2010 at 4:11pm
| Metallica's Load-era is the first thing that comes to mind. I can't think of much else off the top of my head, but some of the ones already posted I also agree with. Testament's "The Ritual", Yes "Drama", and Genesis "Duke" are all good albums. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 12:12am
| I haven't come across much AJFA hate. Load-era is what gets all the hate. Anyway, my pick is Technical Ecstasy, not a bad album at all and doesn't deserve the flak it gets. Also, Turbo...I thought JP adapted to the pop metal sound well there, somehow Turbo Lover became "one of the worst metal songs". |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 12:45am
I think Caress of Steel is their worst album, but definitely not because of Geddy's vocals. Their ambition was much greater than their ability at the time, they wanted to make big prog epics, but didn't have the slightest idea how to make it flow and form a cohesive composition. That's how I see it. On 2112 they achieved it after stumbling the first time. But yeah. Load, Re-Load, St. Anger, Chinese Democracy, Born Again... Good stuff. ------------- http://iamthreepeople.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">  <- Click on this!
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 1:38am
...and Then There Were Three by Genesis usually receive a lot of criticism . I absolutely adore the album.
Someone mentioned Endorama by Kreator, I�ll mention Renewal. Probably my favorite album by the band, but everyone else seem to hate the album. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 2:46am
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St. Anger
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Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2010 at 11:22am
you've just put a smile on my face  I love this album as well, in fact it's one of my favourite, not ashamed to admit it.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2010 at 11:39am
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Scarsick by Pain of Salvation immediately comes to mind. One of my all-time favorites... ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2010 at 4:55am
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When it comes to Genesis, I like all of their albums - including "Invisible Touch" and "We Can't Dance", which I've otherwise been told to hate by progheads. The only album which I am not really interested in is their debut album. Similarly, I like "90125" quite a lot, which is another album that has been bashed by progheads. I actually quite like "St. Anger" by Metallica, because it was, to me, a step back towards the faster type of thrash metal they played before. I don't like "Load" and "reload" though, but I disliked them before it becamse trndy to hate Metallica. I also quite like the two Tim Owens fronted Judas Priest albums, and I also love "Turbo" which is otherwise the Priest album that a lot of people love to hate, because of the glam image the band experimented with at the time. Celtic Frost also experimented with a more glam look and a more traditional sound on "Cold Lake" which even Tom Warrior hates, but I think the album is not that bad. Musically, it's not sleazy or glammy, but more traditional metal. I am not the biggest fan in the world of "The X Factor" by Maiden, but I don't hate it - I think there's a lot of good stuff on it. But I do not like "Virtual XI", I must admit, even though I consider Maiden to be my number one favorite band. Carcass' "Swansong" is another unpopular album, which I think actually contains some very good songs, like "Keep on Rotting in the Free World" and "Tomorrow Belongs to Nobody". I like "Technical Ecstasy" too, and also "Never Say Never", but there's another Sabbath album that a lot of people hate, which I think has some good stuff on it too: "Born Again". A lot of metalheads hate Nirvana, and I've never been a big fan of theirs either, but I do like "Nevermind" alot, which I think is a brilliant album. I don't care for their other releases though. ------------- 
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2010 at 8:47am
| I like "Swansong" as well, but it's not as consistent as Heartwork or Necrotism, and I prefer that brand of Carcass to their more rock-influenced sound. When I first heard their compilation "Wake Up And Smell The Carcass", I was surprised that some of those songs made in the Swansong sessions didn't make the cut. I prefer "Edge of Darkness" over alot of the material that made Swansong. |
Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2010 at 9:02am
| Just today paid for four Striborg CDs. Must be among the most hated black metal bands due to the overabundance of material and the lack of 'musical values' due to the weird dissonant atmosphere, but I've liked pretty much everything I've heard of Striborg so far. Some material is of course worse than some, but still. |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2010 at 11:32am
Me, too, I mean "Necroticism" is a death metal masterpiece.
Yeah, I'm glad they released those tracks. -------------
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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 11:49am
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 11:51am
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^ And then there Were Three is one of my favorite Genesis albums. It's the best post-Peter Gabriel-era Genesis album IMO. ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: martindavey87
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2010 at 5:52am
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Metallica - Load
Metallica - Reload
Metallica - St. Anger
Megadeth - Risk
There's easily more, but these are the first ones I could think of.
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 2:26am
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Falling into Infinity and Systematic Chaos by Dream Theater. American Idiot by Green Day. Once by Nightwish. Scarsick by Pain of Salvation. 10,000 Days by Tool (maybe it doesn't really count, since plenty of people still love it) Anything by Behold... The Arctopus. ------------- Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want. |
Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 3:34am
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Anything by Korn -------------  
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 3:51am
yeah, this, Kevin can attest to me complaining that Tool isn't allowed to be good |
Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 3:40pm
But Tool are good!  -------------
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 9:15pm
^Says the man who likes Korn! 
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2010 at 5:01pm
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St. Anger. I barely listen to it now but I have to confess that it was the album that introduced me to Metallica and opened up metal to me. How can I hate the album that did that? There are more I could list, but that is the main one. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2010 at 5:56pm
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I agree with those who mentioned Falling Into Infinity by Dream Theater. I bought it, got rid of it due to a few of the albums worst tracks getting stuck in my head ("You Not me" in particular), then re-purchased it after realizing how great some of the material on the album was (especially "Trial of Tears"). It never hurts to revisit an album you heard after a few years have passed.
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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2010 at 6:44pm
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Dehumanizer by Sabbath, not that high quality, but is definitely very good. -------------
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2010 at 11:40pm
I'm feeling that maybe since it was such a drastic shift in style (and for some people a sharp drop in quality) that people immediately abandoned the album back then, and it's still suffering from that backlash. Now that people have had the chance to listen to it among all their albums, it doesn't even seem that bad. Personally, it's one of my favorite DT releases. ------------- Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want. |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2010 at 11:29am
I agree. I don't remember when I first heard the album. It was probably around 2003/04 or so when I was around 18-19. When I was younger, I used to let the opinions of others shape how I listen to certain music. Weird how it didn't stop me from listening to Dream Theater in the first place. ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 10:47pm
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I don't mind St. Anger, very experimental and much more interesting than crappy and Abacab by Genesis, I actually really like. Yea, I like Abacab. ------------- http://bit.ly/kZR7BC" rel="nofollow">  http://andywebb.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - My Bandcamp
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Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2011 at 2:47am
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waiting for someone to say beiber
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Posted By: zdunne
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 9:57pm
| One I can think of is The Burning Red by Machine Head, not as good as the first two albums but I still like it. |
Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 10:43am
If someone says that I'll have to put a bullet through their head -------------
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Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2011 at 7:29am
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Metallica - Load & Re-Load
Iron Maiden - The X Factor
Anything by Duran Duran...  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/FinalSignOfficial" rel="nofollow - FINAL SIGN - US Power Metal |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2011 at 10:16am
I'm glad I'm not alone in liking Load-era Metallica. ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |