Opinions on Carcass
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Topic: Opinions on Carcass
Posted By: Dobbie03
Subject: Opinions on Carcass
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2015 at 10:32pm
| I love Carcass, I always get this really excited feeling when I listen to them, and it's not like I discovered Carcass just yesterday, its a good 15 years ago. I just really rate Carcass, what are your guys thoughts? |
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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2015 at 10:40pm
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I've never heard Carcass, I really should though. Any recommendation for what album to start with? ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2015 at 10:42pm
 Man you need to get on that  . Start with Heartwork I suppose but if you are a fan of early Death/Grind then start with Symphonies of Sickness or Reek of Putrefaction.Just be aware their first few albums/ep's have pretty rough production but don't let that put you off :) I normally start with a band from the first album, I love seeing how they progress after each album. //www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/" rel="nofollow - |
Unitron wrote:Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2015 at 10:53pm
^I also enjoy hearing a band progress from album to album, and I've been enjoying Grind recently so I think I'll start with their first album.  ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2015 at 10:56pm
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Good stuff. Let me know what you think. |
Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2015 at 11:17pm
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So far I like it, like you said the debut has a pretty bad production but it doesn't actually bother me too much. The debut so far is kind of a hit and miss, some songs are stronger then others. The opening first few are all awesome. I suspect I'll enjoy the later albums more though. ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2015 at 11:30pm
They only get better as they go on. I have no issues with the production either, adds to the atmosphere. //www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/" rel="nofollow - |
Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2015 at 12:29am
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I really enjoyed their second album, awesome grind/death combination. Loving their third, amazing death metal album. ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: Psydye
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2015 at 12:31am
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Haven't got around to them yet, but will eventually! |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2015 at 1:53am
Yup, wait until you get to Heartwork. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2015 at 7:21am
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My personal favorite is Necroticism. The most interesting thing about Carcass is that they developed their sound between each of their five original albums, which makes each album a Unique listen. Surgical Steel is the only Carcass album that´s a bit retro in sound, but if you enjoy the three 90s Carcass albums it´s a great combination of the sound on those. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2015 at 12:06pm
Good assessment. I still need to listen to their debut though.  ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2015 at 12:39pm
Listening to it now, also an amazing album. This and 'Necroticism' are definitely becoming two of my favorite death metal albums. ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2015 at 1:57pm
Also my favourite, though it was Heartwork for a very long time then one day Necroticism clicked with me 100%. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 6:54am
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^Necroticism was the latest album by Carcass when I got into them, so maybe it´s something about the first love thing. Heartwork never really clicked with me, although I do acknowledge that it´s a great quality release. When I decide to listen to it, it always comes off after a couple of tracks though. Just not my poison I guess. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 9:00am
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I love Carcass. Necroticism is their best album IMO, but I really dig Heartwork, too and Surgical Steel is an amazing comeback album. The two first albums are interesting, and, though it's hard to hear what the fuck is going on Reek, you could still hear that this was a band with talent and an interesting take on grindcore. A lot of people dislike Swansong because it's more or a traditional heavy metal album, but I actually quite enjoy that album too - more so than Reek, and probably also a bit more than Symphonies. Swansong is nowhere as awesome to me as Necroticism, Heartwork, and Steel, but I think there are some pretty good hard rocking songs on Swansong that I find really enjoyable, such as 'Keep On Rotting In The Free World' and 'Tomorrow Belongs To Nobody'. As for Steel having a bit of a retro sound, I must say that I hear thrash metal and NWoBHM elements on Steel that I haven't noticed on thier 90s albums. So, to me, Steel kinda both looks backwards and forwards. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 3:29pm
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Heartwork was my first album and was the only one I listened to for a long time. Necroticism took over as my favourite after it finally clicked with me. Surgical Steel is an amazing comeback, of course there are the people that will never accept it as a good album but I leave that as their own problem. |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 4:14pm
Can't disagree with this.
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Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 4:46pm
I can't understand why people get their tits in a tangle with bands releasing new albums after a long period and these albums don't meet this apparent perceived level of greatness their previous classic albums achieved. At The Gates, Gorguts, Morgoth, Carcass to name a few all had a huge gap in between albums and people are expecting them to....well I don't know what they expect. Can they not take the album for what it is?? Can they not be happy that these bands are putting new material out for us all to enjoy?? |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 5:11pm
I agree completely. With Carcass in particular, this is a band who reinvent themselves with each release, so it makes a lot of sense to me that their comeback album should not be a complete clone of their past releases. -------------
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Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 5:29pm
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Progression. It seems the average Metalhead doesn't get that concept. There are only a few bands that can get away with putting out the same album each time. As much as I love them Cannibal Corpse do this. |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 6:04pm
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Agreed. -------------
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 1:39pm
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Time for me to listen in a deeper concentration to Surgical Steel: at first listening, it sounded to me like a very good album, just like Heartwork or Necroticism. A bit like Pestilence (whose last albums were quite enjoyable, if you ask me), I don't see what's wrong with the 40-something pioneers' new offerings. At least, they're far less tiring than some younglings I may have seen live on stage (no names!) ------------- RRROOOAAARRR!!! - Vo�vod, II-1, 1986 B.C. |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 3:07pm
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Sometimes bands need a break like the one Carcass had to come back rejuvenated. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2015 at 8:44am
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...and they aren´t finished yet either. There are talks of a new album slowly being written. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2015 at 12:51am
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Oh that makes my day. Carcass were playing here in NZ last night, unfortunately I couldn't make it but a mate did. No doubt I'll hear all about it very soon. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2015 at 1:58am
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Pretty cool they´d actually take the long trip to New Zealand to play gigs. They´ve probably combined it with an Australian tour, but still I´m thinking it´s probably not a good business deal. The travel costs alone... ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2015 at 2:32am
We get a few cool bands here, Meshuggah have made it a couple of times, Immortal, Napalm Death turned up with Carcass. Fear Factory have been a fair few times, Sepultura are another one. We are so far away though so good bands coming here are few and far between but well worth it when they do. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2015 at 2:36am
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^and the country is so big, that you probably have to live in or nearby one of the larger Towns to be able to go to those gigs right? ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2015 at 2:41am
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Well we are all so far apart. Most gigs are either in Wellington or Auckland. I live in Napier, almost slap bang in the middle of both. Its a four hour drive to Wellington and a 5 hour drive to Auckland. To fly it costs between $300-600. To top it off most gigs are on a Wednesday or a Thursday so if I want to go it is a minimum 3 days off work.....very rarely do I get to go but when I do it is the trip of the year. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2015 at 2:59am
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I guess we´re pretty priviledged then living in Europe, where there are gigs all the time. Of course there are people living on the country side who have the same challenges as you do, but people in urban areas are spoiled with gigs. If I had the Money and the time, I could go to several gigs each week. I live in a suburb to Copenhagen, and it doesn´t take more than half an hour to get to the center of Copenhagen from my home by bus or train. But as I don´t have neither the Money nor the time, I have to pick and chose the gigs I go to, and I don´t go as often as I wish to. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2015 at 3:02am
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You lucky, lucky bugger. I am insanely jealous. I had a mate in Maryland in the States who went to 3-4 gigs a week. |
Posted By: Vic
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2015 at 7:47am
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LOVE Carcass. Like most, Necroticism and Heartwork are my faves. Also loved Surgical Steel. And Swan Song. And ALL their EPs, can't forget their EPs (including last year's!), great stuff. Haven't seen them live yet :( My sister has met Jeff Walker several times, they hanged around together lots. Supposedly Jeff was going to mail me a Carcass shirt (because they did not bring any in Athens) but I haven't seen anything yet. ------------- 42 |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2015 at 9:11am
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^I saw them live on the Heartwork tour, but I actually wasn´t too impressed. Maybe it has to do with a pretty bad live sound that evening, but the music sounded a bit sterile live too.
...and yeah they have some pretty cool EP releases out there too. Tools of the Trade anyone?  ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2015 at 2:46am
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Tools of the Trade rules. I missed seeing them last week :( |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2015 at 2:57am
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:-( ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2015 at 3:04am
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:-( is an understatement, especially when I hear from one of my mates who went that it was the best concert he has ever been to. |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 01 May 2015 at 6:39am
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I saw Carcass live in Store Vega (Copenhagen) just after they'd released Surgical Steel. That was a very good live experience. -------------
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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2015 at 2:46pm
I also missed seeing Carcass, thanks to not knowing they were coming.  Necroticism is my favourite, but I can take any Carcass, any time EXCEPT Heartwork. I just really hate it. After Necroticism it was just too clean, too death metally, too bland I suppose. I liked Swansong and Wake Up And Smell The Carcass after that. Haven't yet heard the latest one, as such things as Carcass albums are quite hard to find here, because there's only one decent record store left since the earthquakes, and of course everyone knows that, and since I only go shopping there about once every six months, I miss a lot of the good shit. I remember when I first got Symphonies of Sickness/Reek of Putrefaction. I felt like a bit of a weirdo because it seemed so extreme, but I loved it. I wondered if it meant I held serious murderous tendencies or something! After reading the lyrics (naturally, you can't really listen to them...) I got the joke, and decided I loved the band even more, and it made the over-inflated import price I'd paid for it all worth while. I got the version with the medical textbook artwork
 which was the subject of the police obscenity raid on Earache's offices. The only downside is about 10 tracks from Reek of Putrefaction weren't included because they wouldn't fit on one CD. |