The Collaborator's Handbook
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Topic: The Collaborator's Handbook
Posted By: adg211288
Subject: The Collaborator's Handbook
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 4:44am
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This is the major revision of the Collaborator's Handbook that the admin team have been building for some time. Unlike the previous one based on forum posts this one will be available as a PDF file that you can either view online or download to your computer. You can access it at from the below link which we will update as required, as well as posting in this thread what changes have been made between versions. The thread may also be used to give the admin team any feedback on the handbook and the site policies detailed therein as well as to ask any questions if you're unsure of anything. http://www.dropbox.com/s/uqjq6sla1j7cj2c/Handbook%20V2.pdf?dl=0" rel="nofollow - https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqjq6sla1j7cj2c/Handbook%20V2.pdf?dl=0 Current Revision: Version 2.7 (18.03.2017) Dropbox may ask you to create an account or log-in but this is not required to access the Handbook.
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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2016 at 10:34am
This is great work.  I haven't had time to read it in depth yet but a bit of feedback based on the bits I've skimmed through so far:
Thank you so much for putting this in. It pisses me off so much when I'm researching missing bands on EM with the way they insist of segregating women with the 'vocals (female)' credit.  Having a section on current site issues should prove helpful too, though I'd like to see these kinds of things get fixed soon. |
Never write Female Vocals after a female performer's credit. Again, vocals are vocals. No one writes Male Vocals after a male performer's credit after all. It's sexism to differentiate between male and female performers this way, which is not something that MMA will tolerate in our collaborators or neutrally written records.Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2016 at 1:11am
Just read it all. Don't know how much actually went in. It's a good set of standards and instructions. The only major thing I've been doing wrong is sticking the bonus tracks in the wrong place.  That's my fault for not reading the handbook thoroughly earlier. |
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 9:36am
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Ok! It's time to some collaboration... |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 1:32pm
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Handbook revision 2.1 uploaded. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2016 at 5:30am
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Handbook revision 2.2 uploaded. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2016 at 5:09am
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Handbook revision 2.4 (finally) uploaded. Covers the last of the new sub-genre additions and some notes on the Collaborator Helper Program. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2016 at 4:44am
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Handbook revision 2.5 has been uploaded. This version updates our policy on how Proto-Metal and early Hard Rock are handled. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 1:48pm
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Handbook revision 2.6 has been uploaded. This version covers the updated policies on Hard Rock and Hardcore & Crust, adds a new policy on how genre disputes should be handled, among other things. Collabs can expect to find a more detailed announcement in the forum Collab Zone shortly. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2017 at 2:10pm
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Handbook 2.7 uploaded. Adds in the reference to glam now requiring approval and re-writes a couple of sections in the name of making them clearer.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 17 May 2018 at 5:27pm
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OK, i give up and i forgot how because it's been too long. Not in the collab book. I checked first. How do i add a Various Artist release? HELP! ------------- 
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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 17 May 2018 at 9:29pm
Various Artists are under V. http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/various-artists-general" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/various-artists-general Add the album as you would a normal one, then add the URLs for any of the artists we have. http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/various-artists-general/metal-for-muthas" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/various-artists-general/metal-for-muthas Must ask to get that changed to being put under V.A.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 18 May 2018 at 7:07am
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^ so i wrote a review for a buddy on RYM for his Metal Madness Vol 1 comp and of all the 39 artists on it, NONE are on here. Yes, i will do the honor of adding them all. Most are fairly new and only have one or two releases but obviusly it will take a while. Thanks, Vim! And yes, this is a very bad system on this one ;) -------------
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 18 May 2018 at 7:20am
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Oh, and BTW there should really be a genre category called VARIOUS GENRES for comps that are all over the map. In fact it would be useful for bands like Mr Bungle as well ;) -------------
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 10:43am
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I may have asked this before but i don't remember the answer if i did. Is it not possible to add bands under Chinese characters? I see it's OK to add albums but no way to do bands. I have been adding them with the Latinate pinyin but it would be more appropriate for bands that use their characters instead of Latin alphabet to be emphasized. If it is possible, how do i do it? -------------
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 11:34am
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Other alphabets really screw up. But you can get around it by adding as Latin first and then changing it after the profile has been created. It works for Cyrillic anyway like that (which is also okay when just adding a release). ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 4:39pm
| Exactly what Adam said. I have done it myself. Add profile in English text first, including at least one album, and then you can change the band name. It seems to be once it's established in the database it's OK. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm
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Thanks, guys! One more question. On the PA top 250, proto-prog and prog related are not allowed on the charts. I think we have too many King Crimson and hard rock albums on the top 100. Can we change that or can M@X during the next visit? Also can WE get a top 250? 100 ain't enough!! -------------
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2020 at 1:13am
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I have no issue with MMA relevant albums being among the high rated on the site but in general we do need better charts, including proper filters for those who don't want to see this or that genre included. Getting Max in the door right now is the big challenge. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 10:23am
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What happened to the VARIOUS METAL GENRES category for adding albums? I found that to be a very relevant tag for various artists releases that truly have no dominant style. There are also a few bands that could possibly qualify. -------------
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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 11:06am
| We never had one, Mike? What we do have are three various artists profiles for adding compilations and the like. |
Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 1:06pm
It's one where you just have to make a call sometimes. It doesn't make any difference as to where the album sits in the Various Artists sections. If it's a really big mix of genres with nothing dominant, then I either tag it just Heavy Metal, or tag it to the first song on the album.
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 1:31pm
I think only PA ever had that. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 6:00pm
NO! It was here too. For a short while. I think. Am i going crazy? It is 2020 after all :D -------------
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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 6:07pm
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You know, I could've sworn there was a various metal genres for a very very short time as well, but I think it was broken like the non-metal under other so it wasn't meant to be there. ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 1:30am
Let's check the wayback machine. Often an interesting insight to MMA's growth. Like did you know that we had Nu Metal in 2010? And every newbie kid's favourite genre of Trash Metal? 
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 1:33am
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There is a V.A. under the Artist Alpha-Index if that's what you're thinking of. It misleadingly takes you to artists whose names start with numbers though. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 7:38am
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Well whatever the case, i think a VARIOUS METAL GENRES tag would be quite useful for various artists releases, band compilations when a band changed its styles often and for whatever other purpose so whether it was here or a glitch in the matrix then i for one would love to see it included. This would be particularly useful for artists like Buckethead who can have five different genres on a single release. -------------
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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 8:36am
| I agree in principle, so long as it was used properly. Most albums can be pinned down if you try hard enough. We don't want people hypothetically saying 'I can hear both black and death metal in this' and tagging it VMG. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 6:16pm
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^ yeah i get that. I'm only for it for obvious cases like splits, compilations from a band that cover genre shifts and of course various artists comps that showcase bands from labels and stuff like that. -------------
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2020 at 2:16am
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Splits, being added to more than one page as they are, should be tagged accordingly to the artist of the particular page, now overall sound between all contributors. A five way split of four death metal bands and one black metal band should still be tagged black metal on that artist's page for example. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2020 at 5:37pm
Will there ever be the option of multi-tagging albums here? RYM has one up on us for sure with that one -------------
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2020 at 2:59am
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It's an idea that's come up between us and one I'd definitely like to see. For at least two tags, like you'd have a 'main' tag which is the genre that would appear under the release but also a secondary tag that would additionally file that release in a second sub-genre. But this is all stuff we need Max here for and fully invested in making the site the best it can possible be. And right now we just cannot get him to communicate with us. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2021 at 1:49pm
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I tried the link at the top of the thread, but I´m not able to access the handbook. Do you know if anything is wrong Adam? I was trying to figure out if my addition of the Gama Bomb "Half Cut" EP (http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/gama-bomb/half-cut(ep) as an individual release is alright, as it´s only available as bonus material on the 2010 reissue of http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/gama-bomb/tales-from-the-grave-in-space I´d like to review Half Cut, but preferebly on its own, but if it´s against the rules, I´ll delete the Half Cut entry again. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2021 at 2:00pm
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Looks like Dropbox is having some issues. The Handbook should be accessible again after they resolve them. Unfortunately I don't seem to have a copy saved on my current rig, but what I recall of the policy (it being a rarely relevant one) is that an 'extra' release must be tagged under Other and I think it also needs to have a unique cover artwork. This is the only release I recall this ever applying to: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/wolfchant/bloody-tales-of-disgraced-lands-2013%28other%29" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/wolfchant/bloody-tales-of-disgraced-lands-2013(other) And the main reason being that it has its own liner notes booklet with that artwork as part of the 2CD Embraced by Fire package. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |