Celtic Frost
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Topic: Celtic Frost
Posted By: Windhawk
Subject: Celtic Frost
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 3:21am
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The description avant-garde metal was invented in 1986/7 due to CF's album Into the Pandemonium. I remember those references from Metal Forces and Metal Hammer back then, while eagerly awaiting my vinyl copy of aforementioned album from semi-legendary record shop Shades in London ;-) I would have thought it natural that they should be placed in that category as well, despite their role as Godfathers of modern black metal :-) Quote wikipedia: "Celtic Frost, along with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venom_%28band%29 - Venom and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathory_%28band%29 - Bathory were pioneers in the still underground http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_metal - black metal scene, although Celtic Frost were much more experimental with the addition of classical instruments, operatic female vocals and sampling. They were often given the title of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avant-garde_metal - avant-garde metal ." |
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Posted By: dean
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:54am
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mailto:M@X - M@X says the MMA is organised by album-genre not band-genre so that *should* sort itself out -------------  |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:39am
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Can you explain a bit further what that means Dean? ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: dean
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 10:46am
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No. Because I don't know the mechanism of how the albums will be tagged - I am assuming that initialliy all albums in each bands discography where given a generic tag - so all CF albums were tagged black metal even though they weren't really Black Metal - in the fullness of time these tags will be changed to more accuratlry reflect what style of music the album reflects. I don't know how that will be done.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 10:48am
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Ok that sounds interesting if what you�re suggesting will become reality at some point. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 10:54am
| It sounds good, I think. Many bands have quite diverse discography, so it's a bit confusing to see all Ulver albums as black metal, for example. |
Posted By: dean
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 11:08am
No more confusing than having them all tagged "Post Rock"  ------------- |
Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 11:25am
Ah, that seems to be the case in PA... Oh dear those innocent people who turn on "Nattens Madrigal" in hope of some sweet post-rock. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9662 - .. 
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 5:31pm
| I've even heard of Celtic Frost being termed as Thrash Metal, believe it or not... |
Posted By: dean
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 5:42pm
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^ everything was either thrash or speed back in 1984 ------------- |
Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 5:53pm
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Posted By: The T 666
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 10:56pm
| Let's add albums and tag them as they need. If this was PA and the system worked this way, Genesis would be split into two, but it would appear only on one genre as a band, probably in the genre where the band has more albums. Celtic Frost should be categorized as black metal in most of their albums but also as avant-garde metal in monsters like Monotheist. The band is listed in black metal now, and I think that works/. |