Favorite Classic Black Metal Debut
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Topic: Favorite Classic Black Metal Debut
Posted By: Unitron
Subject: Favorite Classic Black Metal Debut
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 12:53pm
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Now from Screaming Bloody Gore, we enter the Dark Medieval Times. Vote your favorite classic black metal debut, and feel free to list your favorite if I left it out. I'm going with Immortal, but Dissection and Satyricon closely follow.
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Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 1:15pm
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You already know from the first version of the poll what I'm going to say: Ulver! Said with a grain a salt though as its the only Ulver album I really find to be worth a damn. Comments on some of the others: Immortal: A very good band overall but I tend to find their later work more notworthy. I'd say their debut is their weakest record. Burzum: Generally doesn't live up to the hype to be honest. I think Varg's notoriety has done more to cement Burzum's place as a classic act rather than any musical quality. Hvis Lyset Tar Oss is solid and the best he ever got. Sigh: I've only heard a few albums, debut included. Of those it's the weakest to my ears. Satyricon: Their best album in my view. Their returns have more or less been diminishing ever since. Dissection: Both The Somberlain and Storm of the Light's Bane are classics. Melechesh: Very solid group. In some ways they seem like melodic black metal's answer to Nile. Debut is their weakest to my ears. Emperor: Symphonic black at its finest. Dimmu Borgir: Always listenable but always overhyped for what they do. Borknagar: Great band and the debut is actually my favourite although I know most will point to The Olden Domain as being stronger. Cradle of Filth: See Dimmu Borgir except that I've never felt inclined to properly explore their discography. Not heard the debut. Nokturnal Mortum: Only heard a couple of albums and not that one. Great music but the ties to NSBM are distasteful. Mayhem: So important to the genre. The debut is good but after that they're just solid. Enslaved: Later work is better. Summoning: Great band if you like what they do (as I do). Debut is the weakest. Windir: Very solid group. Debut is like with many others the weakest. I'd argue that Valfar was a biggest loss to black metal than either Euronymous or Dead of Mayhem. Astarte: A early group to fly the flag for female black metal musicians. Debut is great if you can appreciate the traditional raw sound of the genre, otherwise it's better to listen to Quod Superius Sicut Inferius. Limbonic Art: Great debut that they've never topped. |
Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 1:27pm
I think I'm one of the few people who is the other way around. While to be fair, I've only heard the debut and Isa, I find the debut to be an excellent old school black metal album that has a great sense of melody and atmosphere whereas I just found Isa to be decent. ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
TheHeavyMetalCat wrote:Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 1:35pm
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For my usual taste I ought to prefer their early more traditional black metal based works but my favourite two albums are Below the Lights and Isa. RIITIIR is also excellent. |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 2:32pm
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For me it's between Ulver and Satyricon, the only two on the list I've given 5 stars to. Picked up both on CD recently but Satyricon is yet to arrived. I'll vote at a later date. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 3:16pm
| Many classics bands here but most delivered their best works with their second albums or later. I think it has to go to Ulver, who peaked early as far as their metal work goes. |
Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 3:21pm
| One additional album I think is worth a mention is one I'm not sure could really be considered a classic due to being more obscure, but is fairly well regarded by those in the know: Weakling's sole album Dead as Dreams. Unfortunately it's one of those albums that despite it's high regard remains long out of print. |
Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 5:20pm
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Bathory. It simply couldn't be anything else. |
Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 3:56am
I've been curious about Weakling for a long time but still haven't heard them. |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 6:46am
| There's quite a few there I've not heard but I've probably heard enough to vote and I'll go with Enslaved, though I agree that their later work is better. |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 5:57am
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Went with Satyricon in the end. I'm doing a review for it that should be up later today. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 10:36am
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I went for Emperor. I love many of these albums though. I agree with HeavyMetalCat that Burzum is waaaaaay overrated. I don't dislike the classics but find them rather uninteresting compared to most other black metal of hte time ------------- 
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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 12:52pm
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I'm not a fan of Burzum either. As my review for Filosofem shows. Really don't get how that is the #1 black metal album on RYM. This, from the debut album, is easily a contender for the worst black metal track ever recorded to my ears. |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 2:03pm
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Yeah, War is a pretty ridiculous track. It was the first Burzum song I heard and it put me off really giving the whole project a go for years. I eventually saw a cheap copy of Hvis Lyset Tar Oss second hand and took a gamble on it, and I've come to highly regard the album. Didn't buy anything else from Burzum until last year though, when I found a few more albums second hand, including the one War is on. There is better stuff on the album, but it's probably my least favourite of all the ones I have. I do kinda of dig Filosofem's minimalist atmosphere to be honest. I see it as an album where you either get it or you don't. The best black metal album of all time? Hardly. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |