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Topic: Favorite Metal Drummer
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Subject: Favorite Metal Drummer
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 5:00pm
Let me start with this:

I am sure I missed plenty of good ones. I did when I made this poll on PA. This is why there is the other option, and please specify so they can get their due! Because really...this list can be like 200 people long LOL
This was a list I created off the top of my head originally (though this time I added/dropped a few) and consists of some of my personal favorites. Also tried to get some diversity in there.

So, have at it!

Honorable mention to: Gar Samuelson, Thomas Lang, Tomas Corn (listen to Elvenefris by Lykathea Aflame for a real treat!) Pete Sandoval, Charlie Benante.

No Lars or Joey Jordinson TongueLOL


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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 5:06pm
My top 5 personal favorites are Haake, Adler, Lopez, Rullo and Carey.

Dolmayan got me into drumming, (and has a bit more skill then I realized back then!) and of course Ward's drumming can not be understated.

And for the record...Lars is decent. Get's the job done. Joey is all speed, but not much else.
All the drummers listed I do like and have had some impressive performances. As a drummer, I can go on and on...


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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 5:15pm
I jumped on the popular bandwagon and went with Mike Portnoy. It's such a shame he left DT. Cry

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 6:50pm
Out of those, Brann Dailor.  I prefer Gar though


Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 8:14pm
No way voting against Mike Portnoy!ClapClapClap


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 9:02pm
From the list...

1. Mike Portnoy
2. Martin Lopez
3. Gene Hoglan
4. Sean Reinert
5. Richard Christy


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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 10:34pm
Of course, feel free to mention drummers not included.
Again, there are just too many and I no doubt missed plenty.

If someone held a gun to my head, I'd say Haake. Though with so many different styles out there, I can only really narrow it to a top 3, or 5 LOL


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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 5:52am
Out of those, Dave Lombardo, followed closely by Bill Ward.
 
 
AWOL;
 
1. Raymond Frigon (Legend).
2. Lars Ulrich - I guess he shot himself in the foot really, since 1991, but he's criminally underrated by many kids today...
3. Cozy Powell.
4. Rob (Wacko) Hunter (Raven).
4. Nick Barker (Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir).


Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 12:42pm
1. Mike Portnoy
2. Martin Lopez
3. Jason Rullo
4. Tomas Haake
5. Dave Lombardo

...of these


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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 2:14am
Lars is not AWOL, I left him off purposely!

He really is not a bad drummer, but even in his prime I never saw what was so great.
Lars got the job done, which is fine. Never blew me away on any song. I am very open minded and not attacking, just curious why you think he's criminally underrated?

Lombardo IMHO was actually not that great until the last few Slayer albums! He's on the list though as the father of thrash drumming. He's Lars but amped up in every aspect, his out right speed and intensity, (and endurance) was mind boggling and his double bass blew everyone else out of the water then.




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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 7:09pm
^ but Gar is still the best thrash drummer


Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 10:58pm
Gotta go for Haake. Both technical and inventive. Plus, now there's an entire 'djent' scene that took cues from his style of playing.

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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 12:26am
This is true. I lol'd when heard of "djent" especially since it was just a meshuggah thing. Then I saw it really is a growing genre!

Gar is great. I felt strange putting him up since he only did 2 albums, and on the first you can't hear his true greatness that well (re master is worlds better though). No doubt Gar was awesome.


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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 12:48am
Voted for Lopez, from outside the list my choice would be Dave Turncrantz from Russian Circles.

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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 2:02am
Originally posted by The Angry Scotsman The Angry Scotsman wrote:

Lars is not AWOL, I left him off purposely!

He really is not a bad drummer, but even in his prime I never saw what was so great.
Lars got the job done, which is fine. Never blew me away on any song. I am very open minded and not attacking, just curious why you think he's criminally underrated?

Lombardo IMHO was actually not that great until the last few Slayer albums! He's on the list though as the father of thrash drumming. He's Lars but amped up in every aspect, his out right speed and intensity, (and endurance) was mind boggling and his double bass blew everyone else out of the water then.


 
Well...when it comes to technical skill I guess Lars isn�t the best ( I remember reading an interview with Flemming Rasmussen where he stated that he had to put in some of the most difficult drum hits on ...and Justice for All. because Lars couldn�t get them nailed). But there�s not doubt he is one of the most influential thrash metal drummers in the world.
 
I voted for Lombardo ( yes I admit it I�m a giant Slayer fanboyEmbarrassed). His style isn�t especially varied. In fact he plays just about the same thing on all songs, but my, my he does it well. I also like the fact that his drums actually sounded like drums and not like some processed triggered hell of a kit, which seems to be the poison of many modern drummers. Of course that�s a production issue and not related to his playing, but I thought I would mention it. He is just one of those rare metal drummers that makes me want to enter the pit every time ( and let�s face it I�m gettin� a bit too old for that shitSmile).


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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 3:06am
Agreed about Lombardo. While I loved him (I used to be a Slayer fanboy!) for his outright intensity and really pushing thrash drumming, he was a more extreme Lars. Though I do think he displayed a bit more variation in Christ Illusion and World Painted Blood. I remember noticing it.

Influential? Absolutely, but that IMHO doesn't make you good!
As I said, he gets the job done sometimes not even that well, but yeah. Even he has admitted, more or less, he just went out to beat the shit out of his set.
All this is fine and acceptable, but he's not that great in my eyes.

Thank God no one has brought up Joey!!! Every drummer video on youtube someone has to bring him up. Even in a Neil Peart one.
He is all speed.


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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 3:08am
Glad to see some love for Lopez, always been one of my favorites.

Oh and just so I can be balanced, despite my bashing on Lars notice one of my top favorites was Raymond Herrera who was pretty much all feet and intensity. Also used triggers.
So there ya go!


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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 9:19am
Nevertheless, it's still fair to say that there's metal drumming before Metallica, and then there's metal drumming after, even if it's only months after, or if someone was doing it first, but didn't record it until after... Not even Jaguar, Vardis or any of the other speed freaks of the NWoBHM got the drumming quite right for full-blown thrash. 
 
There are all sorts of ideas on the first 4 albums which may be accidental, but are perfect for the music - and make an important contribution to the fact that Metallica's first 4 albums are among the most influential in metal history. Lars may have "bashed the wossname" out of the drums, but on tracks like "Fight Fire With Fire", someone is drumming amazingly to my non-drummer ears.
 
No, influential <> good, but it has to be some sort of "good" to be influential, and some sort of "very good" to be "very influential".
 
So to me, at least, Lars is one of the greatest drummers - and I could care a great deal more about technique. Technique is technique, and good playing is something quite different.
 
On Lombardo, surely he has at least two drum styles? There's the style he used on "Criminally Insane" for the intro, and the style he used for the rest of the song... LOL
 
Style doesn't have to evolve or be technically amazing, it only needs to be good. Ahem. AC/DC. Case closed.


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:27am
Yeah that�s right Mark the intro to Criminally Insane was one of his rare "experimental" momentsLOL

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Posted By: Lynx33
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 7:16pm
Mark Zonder. But from the list it's Dave Lombardo.


Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 11:46am
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Nevertheless, it's still fair to say that there's metal drumming before Metallica, and then there's metal drumming after, even if it's only months after, or if someone was doing it first, but didn't record it until after... Not even Jaguar, Vardis or any of the other speed freaks of the NWoBHM got the drumming quite right for full-blown thrash. 
 
There are all sorts of ideas on the first 4 albums which may be accidental, but are perfect for the music - and make an important contribution to the fact that Metallica's first 4 albums are among the most influential in metal history. Lars may have "bashed the wossname" out of the drums, but on tracks like "Fight Fire With Fire", someone is drumming amazingly to my non-drummer ears.
 
No, influential <> good, but it has to be some sort of "good" to be influential, and some sort of "very good" to be "very influential".
 
So to me, at least, Lars is one of the greatest drummers - and I could care a great deal more about technique. Technique is technique, and good playing is something quite different.
 
On Lombardo, surely he has at least two drum styles? There's the style he used on "Criminally Insane" for the intro, and the style he used for the rest of the song... LOL
 
Style doesn't have to evolve or be technically amazing, it only needs to be good. Ahem. AC/DC. Case closed.


You have a valid reason to like Lars. The reason we may be elitists though is because of all the Metallica fanboys who state that Lars is the "best drummer ever", or whatnot, where quite frankly he isn't anything special technique wise. He doesn't really have any technical expertise, and he isn't particularly fast, especially when compared to other thrash drummers at the time. Not to mention he's a bit sloppy, especially in one studio documentary where they had to bring in another player for one track. In his case, I'd say he's just an overrated drummer, and because so many say he's good the naysayers are biased against him.

If I had to state my opinion, he's nothing really more than your average drummer playing in a very influential band.


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Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 3:15pm
Brann Dailor gets my vote



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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 1:45am
Of course drumming doesn't have to be amazing to be good.

As I said, the point of a drummer is to keep the rhythm, throw down something else once in a while. If you hit the crap out of em even better.

I'm a ok with that. BUT I prefer a bit more is all.


On that note, listened to a good bit of Sepultura today.
Igor was one hell of a drummer!

Also, Van Williams from Nevermore still blows my mind! Shame he, and Jeff Loomis, are on one of the more obscure bands (though they seem to be getting bigger).


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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 5:56am
Portnoy sealed the deal on this list for me

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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2011 at 10:07am
Martin Lopez!!!


Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 2:35am
Originally posted by Prog Geo Prog Geo wrote:

Martin Lopez!!!


YES! Big smile


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Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 7:04am
hard to choose, for now

I would've put Mark Zonder on the list - excellent drummer if you ask me...


Posted By: The Air Loom
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 9:56am
^ LittleBig, love your avatar!
Mike Portney really excels, also like Skyclad drummer Arron Walton.



Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 3:49pm

Lombardo, one of the few metal drummers with a signature sound and style.
I was in fact just listening to him Smile

I also like that dude that kicked Judas Priest back in shape in 1990, don't remember the name and too lazy to reach for the CD.



Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 4:00pm
Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:


Lombardo, one of the few metal drummers with a signature sound and style.
I was in fact just listening to him Smile

I also like that dude that kicked Judas Priest back in shape in 1990, don't remember the name and too lazy to reach for the CD.



Scott Travis Smile


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Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 4:07pm

^ Yes! I need to put on some Fight next !


Posted By: IndianaJones
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 4:26pm
Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

I also like that dude that kicked Judas Priest back in shape in 1990, don't remember the name and too lazy to reach for the CD.


That would be Scott Travis. I find him to be a rather dull drummer, especially on the newer releases. On "Painkiller" he did his job well.

It's really hard to pick out just one, and there are a couple of names I thought someone would have already mentioned but are missing. From those on the list, I would probably go for Jason Rullo, who really is left in Portnoy's shadow for no real reason. Not that Portnoy is bad, a great drummer also.

But for the ones no-one has mentioned would be:

Mikkey Dee, especially in his King Diamond days. His drumming really adds more value to the tracks on the first four King albums, most notably on "Them".King Diamond wasn't quite the same after he left. His playing in Mot�rhead is quite different, but tight as hell and fits to the bands music like a glove.

Thomen Stauch from Blind Guardian has also added much to BG's music. Very interesting stuff in some parts rhytmically, special mention for the albums "Imaginations From the Other Side" and "A Night at the Opera", where his drumming is not just drumming, it belongs to the songs. Changing the drum tracks would be almost as bad in some parts as changing the vocal melodies. Yet again, Blind Guardian isn't the same band after they lost Thomen.

Nigel Glockler of Saxon fame. This one is even more of a personal favourite than Thomen (Mikkey, I think, is quite respected drummer, correct me if I'm wrong), but man those drumfills he did in the 80's Saxon albums, they sound somehow so organic and fluent. A hint of the 70's perhaps? Very groovy sticksman.

And ofcourse as a huge Iron Maiden fan I am compelled to mention Nicko McBrain, whose prime was on the "Somewhere in Time" and "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son"-albums. Has gone a bit dull on the 21st century records, but still one of the first drummers I really was amazed of.

Not the most technical or the fastest players in the world, but what they "lack" in comparison to some more modern drummers they win back in style and taste. I should include Cozy Powell, but there was a gentleman who already mentioned him.


Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by The Air Loom The Air Loom wrote:

^ LittleBig, love your avatar!
Mike Portney really excels, also like Skyclad drummer Arron Walton.


thanks, do you know the album (in my avatar)?


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 7:18pm
I liked Scott Travis in Racer X


Posted By: Phonebook Eater
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2011 at 1:49pm
Mike Portnoy and Danny Carey. Voted for the first one though.

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Posted By: martindavey87
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 10:57am
Mike Portnoy.
 
Not just the best Metal drummer, but the best drummer, period.
 
Cool
 


Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 4:29pm
^^ just a reply to both the above posts. Does anyone know where Mike Portnoy will be in the next year, and who will be his replacement in DT? Confused

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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 4:55pm
I think Dream Theater has yet to announce their latest drummer. They've been having auditions though.

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Posted By: Vic
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2011 at 1:59pm
Gene Hoglan! First post.

I'll explain later!


Posted By: Vic
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 7:36am
Second post; the explanation.

Gene Hoglan is half the majesty of Darkness Descends. His uber thrash drumming on that album really set a new standard for the genre and the instrument. It was fast, it was ferocious, it was perfect for the album.

He then went on and became the driving force behind Dark Angel and turned them into a tech-thrash but heavy as stonehedge band. I am a great fan of Leave Scars. Not just a drummer then. Still on top of his game.

DEATH. Oh boy. I need a parenthesis here to make myself clear. My favourite singers are Robert Lowe of Solitude Aeturnus, Kai Hansen (esp. in Helloween) and Hansi Kursch. Yet, I *know* that the best metal singer is Dio (shh, let me just say my thing!) and the best singer ever is Freddie Mercury. 

Similarly, the best drummer *I* have ever heard is Steve Gadd, known for his work with Chick Corea (known to me at least). Now Gene Hoglan was on a Steve Gadd trip at the time Chuck called him to play on Individual Thought Patterns. And then there was much rejoice. My favourite Death album (which happens to be my favourite band, all things considered) and Gene's drumming is yet again setting new standards. Technically fluent, musically beautiful, progressively awesome. Lots of cymbal work, switching pedals, that turbo double bass drumming and that weird prop *clink* sound to provide icing on the awesome drumcake.

Same thing for Symbolic. Again, the album is the perfect vehicle for Gene's progressive playing years (which started on Leave Scars, solidified in Time Does Not Heal and became godlike on the Death albums!). Great songs that are even more enhanced by the very original drum parts. Crystal Mountain? That sort of thing.

And then, in 1997, I bought Strapping Young Lad's City just because Gene Hoglan was on it. It was not the first time I did that. I even have an atrocious Old Man's Child album (and I really don't listen to black metal-ish stuff) because he plays on it (he doesn't save it btw). City, however, was one of the best 90s albums that I came across.

And it showcases Gene's adaptability. Again, that album benefits so much from Gene's playing. Especially the double bass drumming, in its stupendous precision and speed adds so much to the industrial mechanical vibe of the whole album. Perfection.

For these works, Gene Hoglan is my favourite. And I haven't mentioned helping out Dave Lombardo in his early years (THE thrash drummer btw and my second favourite), being on the  Savage Grace album cover and being an overall awesome dude.

Someone vote for Sean Reinert! Please! 
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Honourable mentions:

Mikkey Dee: He should be on that list.  Top 5 drummer in my book.

Greg Hall (Sacred Reich): odd choice, but I simply adore his drumming on the first two Sacred Reich albums. Great sound, great feel, very underrated dude.

Uli Kusch: Along with Thomen Stauch, one of the very, very few drummers who play european power metal and don't make it sound boring and cliche. Kind of like the antithesis of Jorg Michael (Running Wild years onwards of course, he was great in Mekong Delta!)

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Re: Lars Ulrich

YES, he was a great drummer. He was not *the* greatest drummer and certainly not the most difficult to play but he managed to become recognizable and an integral part of the band. His drum fills and little nuances he does on Puppets-Black Album era are really great imo. And he was doing really well technically up to the Black Album. I saw him live on the Black Album tour and he was FINE. I mean speed, feet, the whole deal. Then as we all know, he simply got bored being a drummer and fell in love with being a rock star. Staying away from a drumkit for months (in his own words), playing just the basics, rock drumming... Of course when he tries to play the Justice tunes he is going to mess them up. A real shame. I saw him on the Big 4 gig in Athens and he was TERRIBLE. Cringeworthy.

It was however quite astonishing to see how the rest of the band manage to compensate for his random timing. They *know* he is going to hit that crash cymbal juuust a bit quicker than he is supposed to and the whole band synchronizes. Weird.


Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2012 at 9:18pm
Flo Mounier gets it for me.



Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 7:11am
Igor Cavalera is a great drummer, I am surprised no one voted on him yet!


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 7:31am
I think Igor is great too but compard to some of the other drummers on that list, I wouldn�t place him in the better half. Of course it depends on how you define a great drummer. Is it personal sound? Is it technique? Personally I�ve voted the drummer which have a style that I�m thrilled by everytime I hear it.

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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 9:38am
^You know, good instrumentation it's not only technique, it's feeling and creativity.


Posted By: Lynx33
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 10:33am
Anders Jivarp of Dark Tranq.is quite a good one of course


Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 8:42pm
Well, once again I have to go with Other here.

None of these people on the list can compete with the awesome that Flo Mounier, John Longstreth, and George Kollias (seriously?  Derek Roddy and not George?) bring to the table.


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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:04pm
Well, just add  "Neil Peart" to the list, and the question and all this debate will become irrelevant.


Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:13pm
Originally posted by Tupan Tupan wrote:

Well, just add  "Neil Peart" to the list, and the question and all this debate will become irrelevant.

Indeed it shall, indeed it shall.


Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 2:18pm
I can't decide between Rich Hoak and Mick Harris. So other.
 
Or maybe Weasel Walter. Theres about 100 other drummers I really like that I can't quite think of now. But none on this list exactly excite me that much, except for Dave Lombardo.
 
Damnit I didn't see Gene Hoglan when I first scanned this list. Would've gone with him.


Posted By: Drunb
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 8:51am
I can't say I know much about drumers or drumming (believe me, I suck so much you wouldn't believe it).
I guess that I can only state that my favorite would be a tie between Gar Samuelson and Thomen Staunch (of Blind Guardian).


Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: 01 May 2013 at 1:56am
Tough fCensored  list

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