First off, congratulations of
the release of ../shift%28australia%29--watch-it-burn%28ep%29.aspx" rel="nofollow - Thanks, we're happy that it's finally out after taking a little (ok, lot)
longer than expected. It hasn't really been out long enough for many reviews to
come in yet, but so far what we've had has been really positive, and the
reaction from the fans has been great to say the least. The underlying thread
seems to be that whilst ../shift%28australia%29--faceless%28ep%29.aspx" rel="nofollow - Watch It Burn is a step up in
every way - so we couldn't be happier with that.
Genre-wise, Watch it Burn is a bit difficult to
categorize. How would you describe the musical style of this EP, and of Shift
in general?
Tell me about it! I'm forever filling in those genre forms on the many
websites out there that promote music, scratching my head thinking well, yeah
it's alt. metal but only really if you're listening to certain songs, it's prog
metal, but not quite, we've got death metal but someone might see that then
listen to a lighter song and go WTF. It's a challenge. I'm tempted to make the
next album Polka/Death, every song a Polka with Death vocals - that way I think
we'd have our own category! Polkacore \m/
The original purpose behind the music was not to worry about being genre
specific; I really wanted to just write songs that I liked and not be bound by
how heavy or light it should be. I love metal, of course, so that's always
going to come through, but I listen to a fairly wide variety of music so it's
fun to incorporate some of that. I get a bit disappointed when I hear a band
that's just a cookie cutter version of some other band, so hopefully the
variety that we have steers us away from that.
It's also good to see that variety actually seems to be one of the main
reasons that people like us. I have to admit though that sometimes, especially
near release, I get a bit nervous about releasing the lighter or more
electronic type stuff, but so far my worries have been unfounded.
As for an overall description, I actually quite like the description
you've given it on http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/watch-it-burn%28ep%29--review.aspx?id=239971" rel="nofollow - your site , "eclectic modern metal" seems to fit the bill
quite nicely.
Watch
it Burn is the second installment in
a series of four EPs. The first EP in the series, Faceless, was released in 2010. Can you tell us more about this
four-EP project?
I wanted to take a different approach to releasing music in many different
respects. Over the years I'd built up a collection of riffs and part songs and
ended up with enough for potentially two or three albums worth, but rather than
putting an album out every few years and being forgotten in-between, I wanted
to try and stay in people's minds by releasing more often.
At the time of releasing Faceless
though, I thought we'd probably be able to release an EP maybe every six months,
because most of the songs for the four EPs are at least partly written, but so
far it's ended up taking longer than expected, but that's fine, I'd rather
spend a bit more time on it and get it right than worry too much about
timeframes.
Comparing Faceless and Watch it Burn, how do the two releases differ from each other, and
what are the similarities? Is there a red thread of some sort?
I think the similarity between the two is actually the variety that the
two EPs have (if that makes any sense!), they both have some really heavy
moments and they both have songs that you maybe wouldn't expect from a fairly
heavy band. I guess the differences would be that we learnt a lot from the
release of the first EP, so we went into the second EP with a better idea of
what to expect, which in turn maybe made Watch
it Burn a little more of a cohesive effort.
The underlying thread would be that we're making the music for the sake
of making music, without regard to anything like radio play or scoring record
deals etc. I don't really care about having 'hooks' in a song; if I feel some
repetition is needed, then great, but if not I'm not going to try and force it
in just so it's more instantly likable. I also want to see how far I can take a
song using the technology available to me without worrying about whether or not
it can be played live (though I'm pretty sure most songs could be) so it's not
unusual for me to track 4 or 5 different guitar parts for a section - it's all
very self-indulgent and glutinous of course, but sometimes stripped back is
cool and sometimes over the top excessiveness is cool as well, so I think
that'll be a trend throughout all the releases.
What is in store for Shift
after you have released all four EPs? Can we expect a full length release at
some point?
I definitely see that happening once the four EPs are done and we maybe
have some shows under our belt and have hopefully established a wider
following. I think we'll re-assess things and look to a full-length release.
That's the current plan anyway!
The songs on the Watch it Burn are quite diverse in terms
of metal genre elements, and there also appear to be influences from outside
the realm of heavy metal. Is this something you deliberately aim at in your
songwriting?
I wouldn't say that we specifically set out to incorporate other genres,
it really just happens that way naturally. I listen to and am influenced by a
large amount of artists both in metal and outside of metal, so that reflects
itself in the music. If, for some reason, we decided that Shift needed to be more
purely a 'metal band', then I'd still end up writing those other songs, but
we'd just leave them off the albums. We probably take the risk of alienating
some people who just want it all heavy all the time, but I think most people
will be able to tell that we're not writing the lighter stuff to try and appeal
to a wider audience, we're just writing songs that we like - some people will
like it, some people will hate it, that's the way it goes.
One of the strengths on both Watch it Burn and Faceless, apart from the high quality of the music itself, is the
vocals, which I think are very expressive, and I especially enjoy the clean
vocals. How important are vocals, in your opinion, compared to the other
instrumentation?
Up until recently I've actually always considered myself a guitarist
first and vocalist second, but over the last couple of years I've tried hard to
work on my vocals to get them technically to a place where I could properly
convey the ideas in my head.
I've found vocals becoming more and more important to be able to express
an idea or a certain mood. The instruments lay the foundation and are massively
important to set things up, but the vocals have a way of connecting with people
in a certain kind of way. The emotion comes through a lot better in the voice
and it also allows me to do interesting things like tell stories and "play the
role" of psycho in songs like Into The
Whites Of Your Eyes and The Bin
which is always fun. It allows me to voice my opinion on certain subjects that
mean something to me (usually something that pisses me off) and I can be direct
or subtle in the way that it's done.
There is an ../anthrax.aspx" rel="nofollow - Anthrax cover on
the enhanced version of Watch it Burn - more specifically 'In My World' from ../anthrax--persistence-of-time.aspx" rel="nofollow - A couple of reasons really, we've heard plenty of covers from the thrash
era from bands like ../metallica.aspx" rel="nofollow - Metallica and ../slayer.aspx" rel="nofollow - Slayer , but Anthrax don't really seem to be
covered all that much, so it was good to try something a bit different. Persistence of Time has always been one
of my favourite Anthrax albums, but for whatever reason I hadn't had a copy of
it for a number of years, so when our drummer Kori sent me a whole bunch of
their stuff it brought back some great memories, and at the time we were trying
to decide on a cover so it seemed like a really good way to go.
Another reason we choose that particular song was that we thought it had
a good amount of scope for us to put our own spin on it, we're not really into
playing a cover note for note because it's never going to be the original, we'd
rather pay our respects to those who influenced us by staying true to the song
but making it unique at the same time.
Which other bands and artists
are you inspired by, and how does that reflect in Shift's music?
The list is endless really, most of the music I listen to has an impact
in some way. I'm just as at home listening to ../obscura.aspx" rel="nofollow - Obscura as I am Glassjaw, Nick
Cave or Mavis Staples. But in some cases, such as Nick Cave, that was a more
direct inspiration when it came to writing The
Bin; his storytelling is
phenomenal and his Murder Ballads
album played a fairly big part in me wanting to try something like that.
Probably some of the biggest overall influences would be from bands like
../death.aspx" rel="nofollow - Death , ../alice-in-chains.aspx" rel="nofollow - Alice In Chains and ../tool.aspx" rel="nofollow - Tool , but some more recent influences that will no
doubt have an impact on the way Shift sounds would probably be ../high-on-fire.aspx" rel="nofollow - High On Fire 's
last couple of albums and ../celtic-frost.aspx" rel="nofollow - Celtic Frosts album ../celtic-frost--monotheist.aspx" rel="nofollow -
For those of our users who
are not familiar with Shift, who are the members of Shift and what is the story
behind the band?
The core members of Shift are myself (Rob Lambert) on vocals/guitars and
Kori Barnett on drums, with several people handling bass duties for the
recordings, depending on who's around at the time. On the EPs I also play keys
and whatever else is needed for the songs. It's likely that Duncan Millar (a
member from our previous band ../nadir.aspx" rel="nofollow - Nadir ) will play live shows - well, hopefully, I
haven't asked him yet! And when we're looking to play live we're obviously
going to need a couple more members.
The band started out more as a project: I had a bunch of music that was
partly finished and rather than have the songs waste away on my hard drive I
figured it'd be good to at least get them to a finished stage. I asked Kori if
he was keen to help out and he agreed so it went from there. By the time we'd
done the first few songs, it was feeling pretty good, so naturally I wanted to
get the songs in front of some people and see if anyone else liked it.
When it came time to release the music I knew that I wanted to do things
a bit different to the norm. The usual way is to play as many gigs as possible,
put out a demo or two before maybe putting together a full album and shopping
it to record companies - we've all been there before in other bands and I see so
many amazing bands that have been playing to basically the same crowds for the
last ten years, releasing albums, hoping to get some kind of break, but not
really getting anywhere.
So I flipped it on its head a little by deciding that we'd write some
music first, release it mostly online by giving it away for free and try to see
if we could actually build an audience first before playing a show. The last
thing I wanted was to start off by playing shows to virtually no-one, so I
figured if people like the music, hopefully we'll get a decent enough following
so that by the time we play live we might have a decent crowd to play to.
We are a band that literally started the on the day our website went up,
which had Faceless ready to download
straight away, completely out of the blue. Prior to that we hadn't even rehearsed
together or played a live show, and we still haven't - though that'll change
soon. We love playing live, so we're really starting to look forward to taking
this music to the stage.
Returning to the musical
style of Shift, your music has been described as being progressive on several
occasions. Now, progressive can mean a lot of things, so how would you say that
your music is progressive?
I'd say it has progressive elements but it's not wholly progressive. I
love the way progressive music ebbs and flows and builds, and I listen to a
fair bit of it, so that ends up coming through in the music i think, but it
would be hard to call us purely progressive I think.
On your Facebook page, you
state that the primary focus of Shift is one songwriting. How would you
describe the songwriting process of Shift?
It almost always starts with a riff, or me dicking around on the keyboard
with some weird sounds. Once I have something that I like I usually get a basic
drum machine happening just to get a better feel for how it could go and add
some more riffs and sections to it. A lot of the time I find that I can do
about 3 quarters of a song within a short space of time, at least the basic
guitar tracks anyway. Then I'll send it to Kori to see what he's got to say and
he'll form some ideas about how he thinks the drums should go, or he'll record
something and send it back. We'll go back and forth a bit forming ideas, but
it's usually the last quarter of a song that takes a while to come together.
Once we're happy with what we've got we'll take it to one of our bassists and
we'll go back and forth a bit with them as well. Then I'll start work on the
vocals if I haven't done so already, which will usually mean structure changes
depending on what I come up with. Each time something new comes to the track,
like drums or bass etc. new ideas start to form so I go back over and add or
take away bits.
So far, the majority of the music has been written by me, but as we move
forward I can see that changing somewhat. Kori is a pretty fucking decent
guitar player, so he has some ideas that we'll be looking at, and likewise the
bassists have some ideas that I'm keen to incorporate, so it may become more of
a collaborative effort. I'm probably too much of a control freak to hand everything
over though, and I'm enjoying having the level of control that I do. At the end
of the day, even though I'm always asking the other guys for their opinions and
ideas, I get the final say on what stays.
You have chosen to make both of
your EPs available for free download. Is there any ideology, or a specific set
of principles, behind this policy?
It was more a case of wanting to be accessible to as many people that
liked our music as possible. It's hard enough to get established as a band nowadays,
no matter how good the band is, so giving the music away for free reduces the
barrier of people having to decide where they want to spend their money.
The other main goal is to get as many people as possible to a show, so we'd
much rather give our music away if it means we could have a great show in front
of a decent crowd, than be able to sell a few CDs and play to a virtually empty
room. However, it does cost money to do this, so to help us get back some of
the costs, we also offer a paid version, which includes higher quality audio
and some extras for those that are kind enough to support us, or like us enough
to want everything we release. It also allows people the option of choosing how
they want to listen to the music. If it was me I'd probably buy a CD or
download the .wav files purely for the bump in quality, but I understand that a
lot of people might only listen to it on their iPods where the extra quality
might not make as much sense, so we try and cater for all that.
The original idea stemmed from the likes of Radiohead and ../nine-inch-nails.aspx" rel="nofollow - NIN who had
high-profile free releases, but as usual, we've tried to do it our own way to a
certain extent.
You have also expressed that
you prefer to remain independent of record labels. What is your view on the state
of the music industry nowadays?
It seems as though it's struggling somewhat, and labels are possibly not
going to want to take a punt on bands that might have a smaller niche audience.
The indie labels might still do that, but for the most part I think the labels
will be looking to play it safe and make sure the bands they back have catchy
hooks and straight forward melodies, preferably going into a chorus within the
first 30 seconds so that it appeals straight away. If that's what it takes then
I'm not interested, I'd rather release albums where the music is the focus
instead of catching as many people as possible. I find the best albums are
usually the ones that take a while to grow on me, so hopefully that's the way
it is when people listen to Shift.
I also actually see the Internet as an advantage in that way. I think a
small niche band can do ok for itself releasing to a smaller niche audience,
because the Internet has a much wider potential reach than traditional
distribution methods. I've yet to prove it though as I currently lose a fair
chunk of cash with each release!
It's possible that I would maybe consider some kind of
publicity/distribution deal, as long as I keep the masters and retain control
of the music, but yeah, it would really depend on a lot of things. At the
moment I'm more than happy doing it the way we've done it, and the response has
been awesome, so why change?
So where can those who are
interested obtain Shift's releases, and where should one go if one is
interested in learning more about the band?
The best place to get our music for free and find out more about us is
at our website: http://www.shiftband.net/" rel="nofollow - www.shiftband.net people
can stream all our music from there or download it as well as grab the paid bonus
content if they want. Our releases are also available on iTunes, Amazon and
CDBaby etc. if people prefer those options.
Once again, congratulations
on the release of Watch it Burn and
good luck with the remaining two EPs.
Thanks! We're looking forward to spreading Watch it Burn far and wide and getting stuck into the next two
releases.
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