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Topic: AyreonPosted By: The Angry Scotsman
Subject: Ayreon
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 4:33am
OK this makes me a bit red in the face being one of the big name prog metal acts, (and one of the first I was ever told of) but I've never listened to anything by Ayreon. Can't let this continue.
Recommendations please! Also, what I can expect from said albums.
Sure, I could check the highest rated albums on here and PA and read some reviews, but let's have some discussion instead!
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Replies: Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 4:40am
I only have one album 01011001 and it kicks butt, it is really worthwile to listen to (sadly is the only one I have), it is sort of symph metal with many guest musician, with neuances from new age and ambient music + some industrial stuff, but mostly heavy symphonic metal, some riffs are really shugging around,
the human equation is the highest rated one on PA so might check that one out also (i have no clue how that sounds like but probably epic),
Ayreon = epic, if you like fantasy and sci-fi put on some Ayreon with some headphones and you are in the seventh heaven (no Jessica Biel unfortiunatly), Arjen is godlike in epic stories so be prepear for some cheese also (but it is good cheese)
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 5:11am
Well Symph X being my favorite band I can tolerate some, good, cheese!
Yeah I did end up just checking the highest rated albums but still wanted some input. Well I'll check out those 2 first.
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 5:14am
For me, Into the Electric Castle is the one to hear. I'm also fond of The Final Experiment as well.
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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 8:40am
I have the Human Equation and 01011001, and have heard stuff from some other Ayreon albums but I think 01011001 wins by far.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 9:11am
I have most of their output, but I�m not really much of a fan. Too much pomp and symphonic elements for my taste and not enough molten metal. It doesn�t mean I can�t appreciate how professional they are or how cleverly composed their music are. and WTF!!! nice ladies Arjen. No wonder he smiles so much:
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 9:20am
Human Equation is my favorite, but I like all of this albums. I just absolutely love the story on THE. It is a good one that needs to be read along to with the booklet so that you can keep up with what is actually going on.
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 9:22am
Yeah all I ever hear is human equation and 01011001 so I'm going to try some other stuff first. Though I'm sure those 2 get all that credit for a reason. Thanks for the tips Jonas, I've listened to a bit of that one thus far and I'm liking it! I may try the other, non metal, half next.
Yes, lucky Arjen indeed! Even prog rock stars can live the rock life
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Posted By: The T 666
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 10:27am
The Universal Migrator double album (Dream Sequencer and Flight of the Migrator) are his best, followed by Into the Electric Castle and The Final Experiment. I think 0101100110 (whatever) is Ayreon's weakest to date, and The Human Equation just leaves me cold. Actual Fantasy is actually good, not great.
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 12:15pm
Of The Universal Migrator pair I may be in the minority in this but I actually have always preferred the non-metal half. Flight of the Migrator is still a solid album but I think The Dream Sequencer has more memorable songs on it. My overall ranking would be:
Into the Electric Castle (and by many miles)
The Final Experiment
01011001
The Human Equation
The Dream Sequencer
Flight of the Migrator
Actual Fantasy Revisited (I have not heard the original version)
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 3:36pm
Thanks all! Now onto simply digesting it all, which may be quite a trip these are all double albums wtf!?
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 3:43pm
I said EPIC and EPIC it is FTW
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 3:46pm
Ayreon and Therion are kinda following the same musical paths, it is metal opras, with tons of pathos and guest voalists
Derek Sherinian plays some keybord on 0100110 album, and some vocals by Daniel Gildenl�v, and PAs own Phideux Xavier
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 4:18pm
Not my cup of tea.
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 4:28pm
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Not my cup of tea.
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Posted By: Xaxaar
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 7:30pm
The Human Equation has Devin Townsend and Mikael Akerfeldt. That's all I need.
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 8:45pm
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Not my cup of tea.
Yeah but nothing is
I have liked what I've heard thus far, thank goodness. I never really liked Fates Warning or Quensryche (well kinda) so if Ayreon failed me I'd lose faith in traditional prog metal!
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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 8:52pm
The Angry Scotsman wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Not my cup of tea.
Yeah but nothing is
I have liked what I've heard thus far, thank goodness. I never really liked Fates Warning or Quensryche (well kinda) so if Ayreon failed me I'd lose faith in traditional prog metal!
If all fails there's always Arjen's other projects.
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Posted By: The T 666
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 12:15am
This is the ranking for me:
1. Dream sequencer
2. Flight of the Migrator
3. The Final Experiment
4. Into the Electric Castle
5. Actual fantasy
6. The Human Equation
7. 010100110
The Dream Sequencer has amazing songs with Johan Edlund, Neal Morse or even Arjen singing himself.
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 5:20am
I've at least listened to most of the albums once and I am liking what I hear.
I'm really liking both Universal Migrators. Into the Electric Castle has been cool and THE and 010100110 both seem enjoyable.
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Posted By: The T 666
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 9:21pm
^There's no bad bad album in all Ayreon. The worst one is still decent.
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 1:23am
I must be an unusual one because THE kind of bores me (though I haven't actually bought the album, I was merely sampling it, so I might have to take a look at the booklet), but I've been groovesharking 01011001 and I find it immensely better for some reason. I think THE sacrifices a bit of "epicness" most of the time in order to present more story, and they have to cut down most of the songs to a basic songwriting verse-chorus format.
That being said, the interplay between James Labrie and Eric Clayton in "Day Two: Isolation" at the beginning immediately turned me off. It was just cheesy beyond belief, and for it being at the beginning of the album it left a bad impression right off the bat. Most of Devin Townsend's songs except for probably "Day Eight: School" are epic times one million.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 2:12am
Eric Clayton
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Posted By: The T 666
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 10:54am
You are not alone in getting slightly bored with THE, but I also get that way with 0101101100. The last great Ayreon album for me was The Universal Migrator double-pack.
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 12:51pm
About The Human Equation, it took me a long time to really get into that one. I actually reviewed it some years ago and gave it a decent score but nothing in the 'masterpiece range'. Eventually though I had to pull my review from the Internet because I no longer agreed with it. Many claim THE as the definitive Ayreon album though, and that I still don't agree with. I definitely prefer 01011001 to it. For me it doesn't get better than Into the Electric Castle.