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Topic: HeaviestPosted By: Matt
Subject: Heaviest
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 2:11pm
Thats enough brain bustin' bands that come to mind Who is the heaviestPlenty more I missed....I know
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Replies: Posted By: Kimba Snaps
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 8:28pm
Not one of my fave bands, but without a doubt it has to be Meshuggah! They put on an epic show at Soundwave!
Posted By: NJCat_11
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 8:31pm
One of the heaviest bands I've ever heard is Nevermore, however, I went with a no vote as I'm not familiar with many of the listed bands.
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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 10:22pm
Definitely Gojira, although Meshuggah is close. I always felt like Gojira sounded heavier because their tones are so much richer and fuller than Meshuggah's.
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 10:53pm
This is like placing the empire state building and the Chrystler building in Kansas and asking you to pick the tallest building.
Obvously Meshuggah, and then Gojira
Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 3:46am
Slipknot ehhhhhh no but yeah Gojira is pretty heavy so them it is.
Posted By: Sleeper
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 7:15am
Gojira, Backbone is utterly crushing.
Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 7:34am
topofsm wrote:
This is like placing the empire state building and the Chrystler building in Kansas and asking you to pick the tallest building.
Obvously Meshuggah, and then Gojira
o'yeah
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 7:38am
Opeth gets my vote, but also Tool are Death are among my favourite bands, Gojira are excellent.
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 8:14am
Meshuggah obviously.
Gojira, Death, Slayer, early Sepultura and Cannibal Corpse are pretty brutal also.
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 11:13am
Anthrax for me dude! < (Caught In A Mosh literally...)
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 11:17am
Behemoth, saw them recently on stage that was intense.
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 2:14pm
topofsm wrote:
This is like placing the empire state building and the Chrystler building in Kansas and asking you to pick the tallest building.
Obvously Meshuggah, and then Gojira
I know but when a bloke ( who likes metal anyway) takes an interest in his off springs music you get to hear some pretty heavy bands and find you like em' and also we wouldn't want any new members to think I am an ole boring b*****d
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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 2:17pm
Kimba Snaps wrote:
Not one of my fave bands, but without a doubt it has to be Meshuggah! They put on an epic show at Soundwave!
Yeah ,I picked them for the heaviest too or maybe the wildest Great Stuff Kim
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 5:52pm
Either Cannibal Corpse or Meshuggah is the heaviest.... my favorites are Opeth and Death, but they both are very melodic for the death metal genre.
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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 11:02pm
J-Man wrote:
Either Cannibal Corpse or Meshuggah is the heaviest.... my favorites are Opeth and Death, but they both are very melodic for the death metal genre.
That. Almost exactly that.
Posted By: kshskang
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2010 at 7:48pm
Meshuggah. I died when I saw them live. Cannot get enough of them.
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2010 at 8:07pm
Forgot about Gojira.... they're pretty heavy. I only have one of their albums, but it's pretty crushing. I still would have voted Meshuggah anyway.
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Posted By: DeathOfSeasons
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 6:41am
I really don't find any of them very heavy (apart from Cannibal Corpse) to be honest. If anything I'd say Meshuggah are intense, not heavy. Speaking of Meshuggah, am I the only person who was disappointed by their set at Soundwave? Same with Isis.
And Human Mincer are the heaviest band ever
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 9:48pm
Matt wrote:
we wouldn't want any new members to think I am an ole boring b*****d
don't worry about that ever happening..
kittie sounds good to me... part of the heaviest factor comes from taking such a sweet precious name instead of ..*yawn* Slayer (oohhh.. interesting name.. hey honey...let's put that on tonight while we make love)... Death (now that is original.. wonder what they sound like).. Cannibal Corpse (hah.. probably a bunch of mineral water swigging goddamn vegetarians for all we know)
but Kittie...
'oh yes... let's put that on when we take Buffy and Jackson to the beach in our new BMW SuV'
*insert disk*
WRROOOAAAAAGGGGG....
AAAHHHH... now that is heaviest right there... subtlety wins out any day...
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 5:02pm
Although a lot of the other bands are heavier, I went with Pantera, because there's just something about their music that makes my balls grow bigger whenever I listen to it
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 6:16pm
Time Signature wrote:
Although a lot of the other bands are heavier, I went with Pantera, because there's just something about their music that makes my balls grow bigger whenever I listen to it
urrrgg ...
Posted By: The T 666
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 6:22pm
Time Signature wrote:
Although a lot of the other bands are heavier, I went with Pantera, because there's just something about their music that makes my balls grow bigger whenever I listen to it
We really didn't need to know THAT...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 6:26pm
The T 666 wrote:
Time Signature wrote:
Although a lot of the other bands are heavier, I went with Pantera, because there's just something about their music that makes my balls grow bigger whenever I listen to it
We really didn't need to know THAT...
that is cause for the first double double face palm in MMA history
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 7:24pm
If heavy means you want to put on a wifebeater and "take it outside" with someone, then yes. Definitely Pantera.
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Posted By: coorpz
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 8:03pm
Long standing debate. People always wanting to be more br00tal *sigh*. But alas, what do you mean by heavy? You mean like downtuned walls of sound heavy? Out of that list, probably Gojira. Sonically assaulting heavy? Assuck. Thrashy heavy? Slayer. Heavy lyrically and riff-wise? Death, hands down.
If I had to base it on my criteria, and of what you have listen, Death for certain. Definitely one of the, if not the, heaviest band ever.... in terms of riffs and lyrics and musicianship.
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 9:42am
Would be either Meshuggah, Fear Factory or Gojira, voted FF !!!
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 10:13am
What about this band
Posted By: birdwithteeth11
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 9:43pm
^They claimed to have performed that song 40 times in a row once live. Although that was back when the album first came out.
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Posted By: coorpz
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 11:41pm
You Suffer is the definition of 4-second mindf**k.
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 7:56pm
Melomaniac wrote:
Would be either Meshuggah, Fear Factory or Gojira, voted FF !!!
Fear Factory isn't that heavy.....
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Posted By: coorpz
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 8:20pm
FF? Yes, they can be, but i've never felt a strong liking of industrial.
Posted By: Harry
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 10:42pm
Meshuggah. After seeing them live, I have no doubt in my mind they are the heaviest band in the world. Totally skull crushing
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 2:38am
I'm not even what I'd consider a casual fan of metal, but I did like getting lost in the denseness of Meshuggah when I sampled them, almost like a metal version of Klaus Schulze, except way less spacey.
Posted By: birdwithteeth11
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 5:04pm
A Person wrote:
I'm not even what I'd consider a casual fan of metal, but I did like getting lost in the denseness of Meshuggah when I sampled them, almost like a metal version of Klaus Schulze, except way less spacey.
Not spacey you say?
I'd say that's pretty spacey.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 7:37pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
^They claimed to have performed that song 40 times in a row once live. Although that was back when the album first came out.
Man I wish I was a Midlands teenager back in those days... It must have been so awesome to see ND and Bolt Thrower live and in their genesis. I would have gone considerably Ape Schitt
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 7:50pm
Though they are not in general the heaviest band, Dark Suns blast beat section of "The Chameleon Defect" feels like death by hailstorm. My favorite ultra-heavy moment.
Posted By: DeathOfSeasons
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2010 at 5:40am
topofsm wrote:
Melomaniac wrote:
Would be either Meshuggah, Fear Factory or Gojira, voted FF !!!
Fear Factory isn't that heavy.....
Agreed. I wouldn't even call Fear Factory slightly heavy to be honest. When it comes to Industrial Metal it doesn't get much more intense than The Amenta.
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 10:24am
Gotta say Meshuggah - the riffs are off the planet
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2010 at 12:02pm
Only familiar with Metallica, Slayer, Opeth & Tool
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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 6:46pm
"!Jugu Music!" - "Hahahahaha! What is JUGU Music Andre' ?" - "You know! "JuguJuguJuguJuguJuguJugu
JuguJuguJugu!!!" -My friend Andre' Marins (from Brazil) that I used to work with at Tower Records in
Santa Monica Calif.
The Mad Swedes for me Byjiminy!
I've been a Fan of the Meshuggahners since "Destroy Erase Improve" came out, as a Co-worker
who was into Industrial Metal thought he'd hand it over to me, "You may like this".
1st 20 seconds of the song "Future Breed Machine", my mouth was agape and INSTANT fan.
Have followed them (and went backwards) ever since, as well- that type of Metal/Prog Metal/Math
Metal .
I agree with the accessment of "What is HEAVY", but I think the consenses here is the brutality
(If i'm not mistaken). Meshuggah sounds to me like 1000 catapolted Tiger Tanks hitting the
ground one after the other with the beautiful melody of 50cal. Vulcan Cannons shooting at them
as overlaid Guitar Riffage . Goilira is pretty damn heavy too, but what I like is that "shuggah is also "Groovy", gives you plenty
of time to headbang yet breaks your neck with a left turn! Its what they do within 4/4 .
I'll go with Time Sig about Pantera, but as far as "Far Beyond Driven" and maybe even "The Great
Southern Trendkill". But "Far" is like, "We've taken it to the limit, where do we go from here?".
Find the song "Slaughtered" . . . talk about a song that takes a left turn at Riff Brutality!
This album has it all, Heavy Dirge, Thrash de-tuned Riffage, Brutality, Complexity and even a
re-make of "Planet Caravan" (as Sabbath's, "smokey" and mellow).
I'm a HUGE Nevermore Fan too, though most songs wont be as heavy as these guys, but go
listen to Albums "Dead Heart in a Dead World" and "Enemy's of Reality" . . . good stuff!
In Love with Death. Death, Schuldiner was a genious and influenced many a band, "Human" is probably
their heaviest album (imo) but "Individule Thought Patterns" and "Symbolic" are my Faves
because of their technical brilliance, Gene Hoglans drums are awesome on them. And the
Guest Guitarists are extra special.
Sepultura was pretty heavy for the time, (one of the most)! "Beneath the Remains" , "Arise"
were also a bit technical too, Igor Cavelera really shined on the drums, as well as on "Chaos AD".
BIG Opeth fan!!!
I think their 1st 3 albums are the heaviest, "Still Life" is the real beginning of their Prog leanings
(and thats a good thing too). They just have all the right combinations for me.
"Soul of a New Machine".
There is the 1st album of Fear Factory that seems to be missed when anyone thinks of FF.
This was an all out Death Metal album, NO solos, just brutal riffs, short songs and Death Metal
vocals, I prefer it over "Demanufacture", but its still a great album. After that I lost interest.
Anthrax are awesome, but not as heavy as all the above. I love every album (and EP) up till
"Persistence of Time" (which is realy technical!) .
A few oldies that still hold up as well (But may be heavier than all on the list):
ANY Napalm Death Album . . . these guys set the standard for Heavy with Brutality. Carcass- Reek of Putrifaction & Symphonies of Sickness, these 2 albums make Cannibal Corpse
sound like Pop Music (JUST A JOKE!!!) Ultra Heavyness times the power of 500. Fast to
"disgustingly" sludgy, psychotic, and much like a slaughtering machine made up of 1000 lined
up butcher knives . . . and thats just "Musically"! (Though "Tools of the Trade" thru "Swan Song"
are my faves, "Heartwork" is in my Top 10 Death Metal Albums of all time). Godflesh- Streetcleaner. Talk about an influencial band for many "Post-" Band (Metal or otherwise)
and Industrial-Metal, constant barrage of Giagantic Guitar Riffs chopping away at any ear within a
100 Mile radius!
Now if you are talking "Wall of Heavy Sound", Sunn- 0))) is particularly scary, avant-garde (eh . . .
sort of) and just . . . i dont know .
Heres 3 of my fave Meshuggah songs that I can think of on the Brutal/Heavy side (Dont cheat!
Listen all the way through!!!)
This is the song I listen to when Fucked-up people ruin my day! Soul Burn- keep listening as the middle cries for vengeance!
(Fave songs: Future Breed Machine, Acrid Placidity and Sublevels but
is my fave album, 2nd may be "None").
Sane-
(Fave Songs: Sane, New Milenium Cyanide Christ and Elastic).
Obzen-Tomas Haak's little "burst" of Drums in the middle with the China
Crash's are just amazing.
(Fave Songs: Bleed, Obzen, Dancers to a Discordant System).
Also recently, been thoroughly enjoying Gorod-Process of a new Decline:
"Disavow your God"
I like these guys because not only are they technical as F! but still aggressive
and groovy, totally different than Meshuggah but just as heavy and grooveladen.
Necrophagist is another like that as well, just add "Neo-Classical" into the mix! Obscura is another band of that ilke as well. Nile is pretty heavy too!
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Posted By: ByTor
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 7:29pm
Gojira, specifically on "From Mars To Sirius" - songs like Backbone and, of course, The Heaviest Matter In The Universe are definitely the heaviest in my collection.
Of course SYL is a big contender.
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 4:23pm
Meshuggah has won, hands down. They really are a sonic assault on your senses I do not think even in 50 years they will they make the Easy Listening section at the cd shop I still have not heard the Live one from late last year but I have heard really good reports about it from friends I know. Of course they are Fans.
Also thanks to MAVIIVAM for the Gorod sample above. Never heard them before and they sound WICKED
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Posted By: kogaionon
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 6:40pm
i say meshuggah
Posted By: Ulfednar
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 6:43pm
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 5:46am
I've been discussing this issue with other people and it seems like each perception is different. In my case, rhythm based bands usually become monotonous and can't keep my attention alive. On the contrary, atmosphere or chaos based bands are much more effective in keeping and crushing my attention. That's why Meshuggah will never compete with Negura Bunget or Blotted Science, for me.
Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 5:51pm
my vote will go to the mighty Lamb of God, the most brutal yet technical metalcore/groove metal band I know of (and they can if they will pull of as technical songs as Meshuggah at any time, plus some of their songs is quite epic, like Walk with me In Hell...
Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 5:55pm
this is the song Lamb of God cloesest comes to tech metal (with prog elements) epic
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 11:47pm
Hehe . . .
I think we're getting off track here .
I think many of us can list a Ton O Bands that have excellent Chops and are Crazyly Complex
and Technicaly brutal . . .
But I "think" the original idea was "How Heavy can it get" as in H E A V Y (<-say that with the
most awful low Death Metal vocals, then splatter your face with blood or sweat ) like . . .
SCARY Heavy!
So for the squeemish (like me!) Try not to look at this cover (the original
cover for the previous album was even more gross!):
This Track just starts off like a terrible Nightmare and Vile Vocal sounds!
(On "Headphones" you may want to turn all the lights out )
Now keep in mind this was released in 1989, Carcass was already being
established as one of the 1st Grindcore/Gore Metal/Crust Bands and this
album featured Drummer Ken Owen "changing his style of drumming
completely, implementing a new style of
double-bass drumming absent
from the band's earlier offerings".
Also featured was "3 types of Death Metal/Cookie Grunts" that included
screaming!
I had read somewhere, ironicaly as I described the same to friends;
(Paraphrasing)"The Band described they wanted the music to ask the
Question, what would a Body's Organs sound like if it were done through
Metal Music?"
No one was writing Lyrics like them, full of unpronounceable organs and
medical procedures, they set a standard for Gory/Medical lyrics to come:
http://darklyrics.com/lyrics/carcass/symphoniesofsickness.html#1 - http://darklyrics.com/lyrics/carcass/symphoniesofsickness.html#1
But for their last 3 albums, did away with the "Gore" as many bands began
to create a "Genre" and Carcass became more "Death Metal" but with an
awesome battery of Technical brilliance that yet again, set a standard for
extreme Death Metal, this time with worldy topical lyrics but written in a
very unique way. This was the era of Carcass I was more into, but fans
would be split by the old Carcass and the new (Until their last album
"Swan Song").
Read Bio from Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcass_%28band%29 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcass_(band)
I would have put up the studio version of "Exhume to Consume" but no-one
has the Track with the original "Prelude" from the "Grindcrusher
Compilation" which is like a spiral down to your worst nightmare hell, though
its on this Live Vid on their re-union Tour in 2008:
(You may want to hear the Studio Version, but the "Original"
recording has a more "disgusting" type of vocal track ).
. . . I love the smell of Napalm in the morning!
2 Brutal Tracks from the other Grindcore Godfathers! Napalm Death!
1988 folks . . .
(I sometimes wonder if they are really reciting the lyrics ).
When I 1st heard this in 89 I was like "W T F!!!???" I really had to step back
and take it all in, as Napalm would influence many to come after.
The more albums came, the more they would progress into a tight but
HEAVY Death Metal outfit, always with prolific Lyrics about the World
and its "real" horrors (and a bit more intelligable). But many hardcore fans
longed to hear the Napalm of old, so for the last few albums they went
back to the Grindcore, but with longer tracks.
2006 album "Smear Campaign":
Now heres another Band who went on to influence just about every
Industrial Metal/Noise Band, as well-as many Post-Metal of today. Godflesh! Again, I was in a WTF is this !? state of mind Just Heavy as a
Heavy Thing could be, "Lets see how heavy we can get for 1989":
These 3 were just soo BRUTAL for the day, and soo many have picked up where they left off,
but I love to go back and listen to the ones that helped make it all happen . . .
. . . Bang On!
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 4:57am
Tough to go against Meshuggah!
Heaviest. As well as possibly most abrasive and most technically complex.
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 12:29pm
I'm with MAVIIIVAM. As much as anyone might like Lamb of God, they are far from the heaviest thing on the universe. Maybe heavy for their contemporaries and modern metalcore bands, but that's not really saying much.
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 12:44pm
I actually do like LoG (which kina hurts now that they have a mass of fanboys) but whatever. Deff not heaviest though.
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Posted By: ptkc123
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 9:36pm
Definitely Meshuggah... the heaviest band I've ever listened to.
Opeth next, then Gojira.
Posted By: 1967/ 1976
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2010 at 7:53am