Simple question... Deep Purple.
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Topic: Simple question... Deep Purple.
Posted By: micky
Subject: Simple question... Deep Purple.
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 7:26pm
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help settle a dining room table debate at the AR..err... .METAL mansion.. |
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 8:24pm
| I think they belong here, because they were instrumental in forming the metal genre. However, as I said in another thread, if a new band came along that sounded just like them, I would vote for exclusion, on the grounds that genre classifications have changed over the years and what was considered metal in 1971 is now only hard (and not that hard) rock. |
Posted By: NJCat_11
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 8:27pm
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thellama73 wrote:Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 8:31pm
| Most modern bands that sound like Deep Purple or Uriah Heep are considered heavy progressive rock rather than metal, and rightly so. One example is the Italian band Wicked Minds, which would definitely be misplaced here. As Thellama pointed out, something like "Highway Star" or "Fireball" sounded VERY heavy in the early Seventies, but now it would sound rather tame in comparison to all the extreme metal stuff. |
Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 3:58am
Indeed +1 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112" rel="nofollow - http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112 
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Posted By: Sleeper
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 7:10am
And another one. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 7:47am
| Proto, yup! |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 8:15am
Proto metal definitely. Rush should also be added here as proto metal. -------------   
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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 9:16am
| Deep Purple, Heep, Rush are all early forms of Heavy Metal IMO. |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 9:37am
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Definitely Deep Purple. They're heavy enough, as opposed to some of their contemporaries, and they used a lot of the complex incorporation of classical style playing into their music, which influenced metal a ton. |
Posted By: Sinkadotentree
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 10:48am
And early AEROSMITH("Rocks),CREAM,ZEPPELIN,SABBATH all paved the way for JUDAS PREIST,VAN HALEN etc. So yeah Proto-Metal or forerunners and an important part of what Metal would become.
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 10:59am
| I say, sure 'cause they're metal related. Deep Purple I don't think are metal per say, but they are heavily involved in the development of the genre, definately. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 2:39am
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well, I think they were pretty heavy for the seventies given that there was no hardcore, no grindcore, no extreme metal. A friend of mine would tell you that they played the "grindcore" of the seventies... They created heavy metal together with Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin, so I don't really understand why we question their presence here.
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 5:08pm
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Yup, they belong on a metal site. Their role in the history of the genre is vital.
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Posted By: The T 666
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 5:34pm
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Definitely. In proto-metal. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 6:45pm
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Purple were hard rock, much like Zep or Heep I don't see those three as metalbands, but then again I can't picture a metal site not acknowledging these bands (and Atomic Rooster and High Tide etc....) on the site
Much like Steppenwolf.... not metal music..... but they coined the term.... this makes tghem unavoidable
Should Mountain, Cream and West, Brude & Laing be included as well in the pioneering rome they had??
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 2:52am
It's a common fallacy that Steppenwolf were the originators of the term;
It was either an unconfirmed journalist of 1967 who described Hendrix's music as "Heavy metal falling from the skies" (or something like that - like I say, it's unconfirmed, but I've heard this rumour many times, and there's no smoke without fire)
- or it was the album Hapshash and the Coloured Coat, featuring the Human Host and the Heavy Metal Kids, released in 1967. The music isn't metal - not even close - but the band previously gave Hendrix his debut gig in the UK, played music that was undoubtedly heavy for the time, and went on to become a major root of metal music, influencing Sabbath, Purple, Zep, Blue Oyster Cult and Judas Priest.
I'd support Mountain. Cream - and probably The Doors and The Who - in proto - but would be a bit wary of too many hard rock acts in there; Bands like Free, Fuzzy Duck, Leafhound, Bakerloo, Quatermass, May Blitz, Sir Lord Baltimore et al are bound to come up for scrutiny, and while the "heavy" is indisputable, the "metal" is highly questionable.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 6:38am
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I got one more >>> BLUE CHEER
But youy're right "and while the "heavy" is indisputable, the "metal" is highly questionable." ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 8:10am
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Indeed - Blue Cheer are often cited as metal pioneers - yet the music is a trashy, grungy kind of heavy blues/psych.
They did have the volume, I'll give them that... legend has it that they turned the air around them into something like lithium-flavoured candyfloss, and could be heard from 10 miles away - not sure if they ever made it to 11...
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 4:40pm
| Yes, deffinitely. While I'd say they're heavy rock rather than metal they certainly played a part in the development of the genre and highly influential to many metal bands to come. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 7:12pm
hahah... this turned out to be pretty lopsided  
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Posted By: alberto mu�oz
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2010 at 7:05pm
Simple answer... yes!
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Posted By: 1967/ 1976
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2010 at 4:05am
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YES!!! "Speed King" is the first Power Metal song that was ever conceived and recorded!!! And "Fireball" was the first Prog Metal album that was ever conceived and recorded!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2010 at 12:56pm
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Oh sure! Defining band for metal. Just not evil and raw enough for my taste. Prefer Sabbath and Zeppelin. |
Posted By: Phonebook Eater
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 11:48am
| Yes, they are definitely proto metal |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 10:25am
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Without them there would be no metal - they helped pioneer it -------------  GLAM METAL!
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Posted By: whitedragon1969
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2010 at 7:12pm
| Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Uriah Heep set the boundaries of what we call Hard Rock & Metal. All the others follow them. |
Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2011 at 7:14am
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I think Deep Purple have to be here in MMA as proto metal, but a few albums must be billed as non metal IMO! |
Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2011 at 5:54pm
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Yes..kinda a silly question IMO. ------------- 
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Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 7:21pm
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juhn-juhn-juuuhn... juhn-juhn-ja-juuuhn come on, that it so metal (smoke on the water if you didn't pick up on that )------------- http://bit.ly/kZR7BC" rel="nofollow">  http://andywebb.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - My Bandcamp
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Posted By: whitedragon1969
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 7:48pm
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All I want to say is that even the rocks know this song ("Smoke..." of course)
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 12:44am
The guys in Deep Purple refer to it as "The Dan-dan-dan" song...
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Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 3:41pm
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2011 at 10:16am
| I think no. |