'Core Chat
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Forum Name: Metal Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation
Forum Description: Discuss specific metal bands and their members or a specific sub-genre
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Topic: 'Core Chat
Posted By: Wilytank
Subject: 'Core Chat
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 7:25pm
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Though not everyone here (or anywhere) is really big on this genre, I think we ought to have a thread about metalcore here just because we have one on every other subgenre of metal. ... FUCK YOU! GET THE FUCK OUT! ------------- 
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Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2011 at 6:57pm
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I quite enjoy a bit of Metalcore, or NWOAHM as they used to call it. Many different types, and borderline artists I guess, eg. Lamb Of God, Hatebreed, Parkway Drive, BMTH, Shadows Fall, 5FDP, Chimaira I know it gets a lot of stick from people who like things like Death, Black or Prog... but those get a lot of stick too. If a song sounds good to me, its a good song. So far I've liked a lot of metalcore songs, just like Stoner, Prog, Rock etc -------------  My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2011 at 7:02pm
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Not a big fan, but I do occasionally stumble across bands that I really like. Between the Buried and Me and Born of Osiris are two bands that I especially love. ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2011 at 8:26am
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Aren't they more prog/djent ? ------------- My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2011 at 12:18pm
I have never identified Born of Osiris as a djent band and would really not like to even if the black guy from Animals as Leaders have played with them live. Progressive is fitting as they could be labeled progressive deathcore.  -------------
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Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2011 at 3:21pm
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BoO is a progressive deathcore band while BtBaM is a progressive deathcore/metalcore/awesomecore band, but neither of them are djent. But besides, a number of djent bands are based in Metalcore. ------------- http://bit.ly/kZR7BC" rel="nofollow">  http://andywebb.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - My Bandcamp
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Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2011 at 7:40am
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Ah, fair enough, I've not listened to them so couldn't judge, but I do half remember them being in lists of prog or djent bands, though there's no guarantee the list makers know the difference. Even this site calls The Great Southern Trendkill a thrash metal album. I just can't agree on that one. ------------- My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2011 at 5:49pm
| Trendkill is Pantera's thrashiest album, though. |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2011 at 1:13am
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And not to mention that groove metal is placed under thrash on MMA, which is why Pantera's stuff is there. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2011 at 2:42am
Ah, I suppose there is cross over there, like Chaos AD. My brain keeps the two separate, so it seemed odd at first glance. ------------- My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
adg211288 wrote:Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2011 at 3:11am
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I generally think the sub genre bios/definitions are a good help to understanding why an artist is placed where it is. There are always going to be artists that are very difficult to place but for most artists I think the system works pretty well. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2011 at 10:57am
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Ah, just noticed them, its in a different place than on progarchives so I assumed this didn't have one.
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Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2011 at 8:33pm
Yeah, looking back, Winds of Plague's symphonic w**ggercore was really painful. I gave their latest album a 2.5 originally, but I reduced it since then. Their third album actually showed large amounts of promise, but it's like they decided to throw it all away and go back to their terrible first two albums. Their third album was their only awesome album they made: -------------
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 4:59pm
I wasn't big into either of those songs, but I actually preferred the first video. I've been meaning to check those guys out. ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 5:41pm
| I generally don't like most Metalcore, but Lamb of God are pretty good, I guess. (Not really a huge fan, but Ashes of the Wake is a pretty solid album). |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 2:55pm
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I think that there is a lot of quite good metalcore out there, but, granted, the more different metalcore bands I check out, the more I think a lot of them sound alike, with many of them being quite boring.
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Posted By: Nick Dilley
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 10:09pm
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No talk about As I Lay Dying? F-ing brilliant music, in my opinion. Or are they considered something else?
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 12:05am
I�ve just seen them live last Friday: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3769 . Can�t say I�m much of a fan of deathcore but they pulled off a good show ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 11:16am
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Demon Hunter is easily the best metal/death core band out there. I've always thought they were rather death metal -y. Also proof that Christian metal bands don't equal shit. My three favorite songs, of their first three albums. ^ that second vocalists style isn't one I've heard much in any metalcore band. I love it. That vocal style always make me think of some little hunched over, thin, scrawny creature with long fingernails. Sort of like Golem if he decided to become a vocalist in a metal band. ^ cover of Prong's Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck, and, ten times better. I also wil add that I love their logo, a goat skull with a bullet hole. I wonder what that is about... |
Posted By: Metal|Bleed
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 12:31am
| my fav metalcore band is Agnostic Front, and they will stay on this point forever. right after that diecast, Biohazard and Death Before Dishonor. |
Posted By: Metal|Bleed
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 12:37am
| Agnostic Front one of my favorite metalcore bands. "For My Family" is my favorite song, I love the guitars in that song, that 'harmonized lead guitar melodies. Makes you wanna sing along :D I ordered myself a T-shirt of the band from http://www.metal-shop.eu/b/agnostic-front/ . I strongly recomend it. |
Posted By: WSWC
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2013 at 6:03pm
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2013 at 12:36pm
I never thought of Agnostic Front as a metalcore band. I see them more like a hardcore band who draw extensively on crossover thrash. I totally love the Warriors and My Life My Way albums, by the way. Anyway, for those who don't know what we're talking about, here's 'For My Family': From the same album My Life My Way, I prefer these: And my favorite from Warriors is this one: -------------
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Posted By: Psydye
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2013 at 4:29pm
| I've just been checking out Agnostic Front, and I agree their music pretty damn solid(but then I do like crossover thrash). I'm starting to check out other metalcore bands as well as some deathcore and nu metal bands, as I never really gave the genres much of a chance(other than metalcore anyways). Born of Osiris and Between the Buried and and Me are GREAT prog deathcore but as for metalcore I'd say so far I've enjoyed Devildriver, and....others I can't remember atm... :/ |
Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2014 at 8:11pm
I'm going to see A Day To Remember in August, I hope it's going to be worth it. 
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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2015 at 9:34am
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Some metalcore news you may have seen - At their Mantras of War release party on 30th October 2015 at Colectiv nightclub in Bucharest, http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/goodbye-to-gravity" rel="nofollow - Goodbye To Gravity 's pyrotechnics display set a deadly fire, greatly accelerated by polyurethane foam used in the club to dampen sound waves, and 32 people died, while many more were hospitalised. Vocalist Andrei Găluț, bassist Alex Pascu and drummer Bogdan Lavinius were hospitalised with injuries, and guitarists Vlad Țelea and Mihai Alexandru died. All those people out for a good time who won't be going home, or won't be returning the same!
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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2015 at 6:15pm
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^That's sad, my condolences to the family's of those killed and/or injured. I hope those who were injured recover.
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2015 at 10:25am
The drummer has died as well now: http://metalhammer.teamrock.com/news/2015-11-09/romania-club-fire-toll-reaches-45-as-drummer-dies" rel="nofollow - http://metalhammer.teamrock.com/news/2015-11-09/romania-club-fire-toll-reaches-45-as-drummer-dies ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2015 at 11:32am
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The band's website was proclaiming the band as being at the forefront of Romanian metal. Not that careers are what is important, but I guess it must be the end of the road for Goodbye To Gravity. Sad news. A lot of pain and suffering with a lot of people hurt or dead.
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2015 at 8:42am
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The sad news continues. The bassist passed on yesterday apparently. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2015 at 8:53am
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So only vocalist Andrei Găluț has survived the fire then? Fingers crossed at least one of them makes it. It's going to leave him with all sorts of feelings if he does though. No happy endings here.
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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2015 at 11:25am
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Very sad news, let's hope that he makes it. ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2015 at 2:59pm
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^Yes and no. If he survives, then he'll go on knowing that all his friends are dead and he lived. Survivor's guilt. As aforementioned, no happy endings here.
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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2017 at 9:53am
It's funny how you can completely miss some albums. I'm a big Zao fan. Their last album released was 2009's Awake? or so I thought. Just browsing in a local (mainly second-hand) record store and picked up this from December (2016) - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/zao/the-well-intentioned-virus" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/zao/the-well-intentioned-virus I'd assumed they had broken up. It's good to be wrong sometimes.
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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2017 at 11:50am
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That's some awesome cover art, what kind of metalcore do they play? ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2017 at 12:08pm
| I'd say old-school thrash based metalcore Khaliq, but that would suggest they're a run of the mill clone, and they're not. An important band in the development of the genre in my view, often brutal and at times experimental. You can stream the latest album on Bandcamp if you're curious. |
Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2017 at 12:59pm
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^Cool! Sounds right up my alley. I'll check 'em out. ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 8:43am
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WTF! Here is Murp. Sweet kid - hope she doesn't wreck her vocal chords before she even hits puberty.
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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 11:39am
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Just added a mainly instrumental deathcore artist - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/mysarium" rel="nofollow - Mysarium . It's a solo project from some bloke in Connecticut. Since 2012 he's released 36 full-length albums. In what world is that neccessary or desirable? That's a hell of a lot of time for me to copy his details off Bandcamp. Anyway if you want to judge the quality yourself, his releases are free here - http://mysarium.bandcamp.com/music" rel="nofollow - https://mysarium.bandcamp.com/music
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 2:03am
I always worry that these overly productive artists are spreading their creativity too thinly which leads me to not bothering with them. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 2:31am
| ^ me too. There's nothing actually wrong with the tracks I've sampled but how distinct they all are from each other I couldn't tell you. I haven't sampled enough. Seems excessive to me at any rate. |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 4:50am
Well the band Converge have just gone a long way toward making me a metalcore convert. Their new album sounds pretty insane. Definitely a cut above the usual 'popular' metalcore bands out there that I've tried in the past. I guess there's a reason that six out ten of their albums make up RYM's top 10 for the genre (eight in the top twenty).  ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 5:23am
| I’m impressed that you tried it 😉 That’s not meant to be patronising but so many metal heads either “get” metalcore or more likely avoid it at all costs. As for the Converge album, yes it’s superb. Possibly my favourite album of 2017. Like many” progressive” albums, it also gets better with each play. |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 5:49am
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I've not completely adverse to it or its sub-genres (this was my first taste of anything remotely to do with mathcore though). I'm quite fond of the couple of Protest the Hero albums I've manged to pick up in charity shops (especially Kezia) and Trivium were one of the first metal bands with harsh vocals that I enjoyed, so I still hold them in high regard, mainly for Ascendancy. In truth I don't mind Killswitch Engage either though they've never blown me away like Converge just did. There was a proggy metalcore band who released an album last year called Erra that I quite enjoyed too. Converge though seem like they're on a whole other level. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 6:09am
If you enjoyed the mathy side of the genre, last year's Dillinger Escape Plan album (their last ever  ) was excellent too and for a DEP album, very accessible for the band. Their penultimate release was also excellent.The latest Trivium album is good. As for Protest The Hero, you heard Volition? Not mathy but very prog. I don't know the Erra album though - I'll look it up. |
Posted By: Sisslith
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 6:30am
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^Erra - Drift I also listened to it last year and I found it quite good. I really enjoyed the clean vocals and the instrumental work... ------------- Only the dead have seen the end of war. Without music, life would be a mistake. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 7:06am
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If you enjoy Converge Adam (and yeah I agree, they are a pretty damn great band), you should definitely give Burst a chance too. Great Swedish post-hardcore (or metalcore if that´s what people want to call it). I can highly recommed both Prey on Life and Origo.
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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 7:12am
| ^ agreed. |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 12:04pm
I'll have to check DEP out then, though first plan is to explore more Converge, starting with Jane Doe. One day I'll probably catch up on the Trivium albums I've missed. They were selling most of them for just £2.99 each in HMV recently but I was supposed to be Christmas shopping so elected not to buy. As for Protest the Hero I've picked up Kezia and Fortress in second hand shops in my town in the last couple of years. Not checked out any others as yet. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 12:11pm
I'll look them up. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 12:12pm
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Interested in more thrash-based metalcore? That encompasses most of the bands I like. ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 12:18pm
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I'll try anything for a track or two, though I'm not likely at this point to check out metalcore bands en masse. There's one called Botch who also feature highly on RYM's chart that look intriguing, since they're the only band keeping Converge from having all top five places with their We Are The Romans album. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2017 at 5:09pm
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Botch and Converge were metalcore before there was the awful derivative genre which now bears the name. There were a couple of others I remeber- Luddite Clone and Burnt By The Sun. After that though, I just went off it. |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 9:34am
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Saw Killswitch Engage supporting Maiden last night. Did pretty much a full set.: Strength of the Mind A Bid Farewell Life to Lifeless Hate by Design My Last Serenade The End of Heartache My Curse In Due Time Holy Diver
It's the first time I've seen them with Jesse Leach (Howard Jones was on vocals the last time I saw the band) as an aside, and he's certainly a fair performer. An Killswitch fans out there? |
Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 12:41pm
| I like their cover of Holy Diver, but their own music, not so much. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 1:40pm
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I saw Killswitch live on the Copenhell festival a couple of years back, and I´ve given a couple of their albums a listen or two, but it´s not really my type of music. Can´t get into it. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 2:50pm
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Jonas - yeah you're probably in the majority there for this site. A strange line-up putting Killswitch and Maiden together at a gig - seemed to draw two disparate groups of fans -the punks and metalheads. Maybe that was the intention. Patrick - Holy Diver shouldn't work done metalcore, but shit does it. Love that track.
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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2021 at 2:01am
I don't know if other genre teams are seeing the same but we seem to have had a shed-load of metalcore / sludge / hardcore releases over the last month. I can't keep up with the adds, never mind listen to them  And that includes releases from some of the big hitters, as well as a good number of first time releases. Perhaps it's the pent-up supply from the last couple of Covid-infested years we've had? |
Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2021 at 10:46pm
| It seems to be happening across the board. I've listened to a few podcasts with musicians who have said they were writing and recording during lockdown but didn't want to release stuff until they could tour it. Tours seems to be restarting, so here comes the deluge! |
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2021 at 4:17am
^ at least that suggests there will be an end at some point 
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