Print Page | Close Window

Neal Morse

Printed From: MetalMusicArchives.com
Category: Site News, Newbies, Help and Improvements
Forum Name: Help us improve the site
Forum Description: Help us improve the forums, and the site as a whole
URL: http://www.MetalMusicArchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2366
Printed Date: 22 Dec 2024 at 6:06pm
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 10.16 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: Neal Morse
Posted By: Earendil
Subject: Neal Morse
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 9:47pm
I love Neal Morse, but I'm very surprised he's on this site.  He has only two albums labeled as progressive metal, but Sola Scriptura is really the only one with any metal influence.  Even that just has a few heavy sections, and I wouldn't call the whole album metal.  If 2 out of 17 studio albums are considered progressive metal because they have heavy sections, I really don't think that's enough for him to be on the site.



Replies:
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 6:42am
His inclusion is borderline but he was approved by the prog metal team. I'm not as familiar with ? as I am with Sola Scriptura, but that album definitely warrants his inclusion here. And he only needs one album that can be considered metal to be worthy of inclusion on MMA. We don't ignore artists just because most of their output isn't metal, as in Neal's case, that is what the Non-Metal tag is for.

-------------
Earn Money Online (NOT a scam):
https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U

https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora


Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 3:08pm
You're right I guess, but it does seem rather silly to have so many non-metal albums.


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 6:11pm
Originally posted by Eärendil E�rendil wrote:

You're right I guess, but it does seem rather silly to have so many non-metal albums.

If an artist released 200 non-metal albums and one metal album, that's enough to warrant inclusion. Smile


-------------
Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime


Posted By: m@x
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 6:40pm


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by Eärendil E�rendil wrote:

I love Neal Morse, but I'm very surprised he's on this site.  He has only two albums labeled as progressive metal, but Sola Scriptura is really the only one with any metal influence.  Even that just has a few heavy sections, and I wouldn't call the whole album metal.  If 2 out of 17 studio albums are considered progressive metal because they have heavy sections, I really don't think that's enough for him to be on the site.


And Porcupine Tree? fuhgettaboutit Wink


Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 3:54pm
Then Buckethead should totally be on MMA.  And PA for that matter. Case and point for both:



But the powers in charge don't seem to think so.  Cry


And seen here, metal: Smile






Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 6:48pm
Don't get in to Buckethead on PA - that's argument that's been going on since 2005 LOL
I'm not uber familiar with his material but I'm sure perhaps Trad. would be willing to adopt him - of what I heard he has a twinge of Satriani-esque solo guitarist/metal in him, with obviously more artsy experimentation. 


-------------
http://bit.ly/kZR7BC" rel="nofollow"> http://andywebb.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - My Bandcamp


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 6:51pm
Yeh, not sure Buckethead has even been suggested. 

The problem I find with virtuoso guitarists, generally, is that they like to mix n match styles in such a way that they don't always have albums you can call collectively metal


Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 8:07pm
Yeah.  But Buckethead has played on over 200 albums, and of the few I've listened to, a couple are consistently metal.

And wikipedia says:

His music spans such diverse areas as  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_metal" rel="nofollow - progressive metal ,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funk" rel="nofollow - funk ,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues" rel="nofollow - blues ,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz" rel="nofollow - jazz ,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluegrass_music" rel="nofollow - bluegrass ,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambient_music" rel="nofollow - ambient , and  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avant-garde_music" rel="nofollow - avant-garde music .

And somehow Steve Vai is on here and PA but not him.  

Oh well...


Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 8:11pm
Judging from what I did hear from Buckethead, he'd fit more avant-garde than traditional metal.

-------------


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 9:51pm
Someone well-versed in his discography would have to post a suggestion thread with relevant samples.


Posted By: IMPF
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 7:07pm
.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 7:08pm
I disagree, but I also don't think Neal Morse belongs here Tongue


Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 7:11pm
Originally posted by IMPF IMPF wrote:

If Neal Morse should be on here because of one heavy-ish album, than IQ, Spock's Beard and Transatlantic should be on here too.
I know Transatlantic was brought up some time ago and they were turned down. I believe it's the same for SB too.


-------------




Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 8:21pm
Originally posted by The Block The Block wrote:

Originally posted by IMPF IMPF wrote:

If Neal Morse should be on here because of one heavy-ish album, than IQ, Spock's Beard and Transatlantic should be on here too.
I know Transatlantic was brought up some time ago and they were turned down. I believe it's the same for SB too.


Both Transatlantic and SB were rejected by the PMT.

The issue with the argument presented by IMPF is that none of these bands (at least in my opinion) have ever released a full-blown prog metal album. They all have bits of metal scattered throughout a few albums, but no albums can comfortably be considered metal as a whole. Neal Morse, on the other hand, has released 2 albums with considerable metal influences, and has been agreed by the Prog Metal Team to be added to the site.

Since artists can be added on the basis of one or two releases, I think his addition is completely legitimate.


-------------
Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2012 at 12:16am
^Thumbs Up

-------------
http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE!
https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM



Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 10.16 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2013 Web Wiz Ltd. - http://www.webwiz.co.uk