Dave Mustaine vs. Chuck Schuldiner
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Topic: Dave Mustaine vs. Chuck Schuldiner
Posted By: NorseGangsta
Subject: Dave Mustaine vs. Chuck Schuldiner
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 4:15pm
| Who is the better metal musician, Dave Mustaine or Chuck Schuldiner? Both are vocalists and take a rhythm/lead guitar role and are the sole composers for a large chunk of their respective bands songs. Both also carved their own niche in their genres of metal, Mustaine in thrash metal and Schuldiner in death metal/progressive metal. |
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 4:17pm
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Chu.Chu.Chu.Chuck!!! ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 4:23pm
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I'm a fan of both.
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Posted By: genghiscon
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 4:26pm
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My snap response would have been to say Dave. But, thats not right. While I really never cared for Death or Chuck's singing, I cannot deny his impact on an entire genre of music. Countless metal bands and whole discographies of music would not exist without his influence. And that is too big to ignore easily. Dave gets knocked for his singing, too. I get that. His nasal snarl is unique (and to some, a deal-breaker) but I will give him credit for actually improving a little as a singer over the years. Something even Hetfield can't stick a feather in his cap for. I give props to Mustaine for being more talented as a guitarist than Chuck, but not by a whole bunch. Dave has also been influential, but possibly not to the fevered degree as Chuck, and has obviously, for not being dead, a larger body of work to judge. I know its kind of a cop-out, but it really feels pretty even. I voted it a tie. ------------- I got Rock N Roll to save me from the cold, and if thats all there is, that aint so bad. Rock N Roll! - Lemmy |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 4:29pm
| I'm a fan of both, and both were brilliant musicians and very important and influential, but absolutely Chuck for me |
Posted By: Diogenes
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 5:33pm
| There is no way in hell Dave has more talent than Chuck. None. |
Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 7:11pm
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Without a clear cut winner as far as talent goes, I had to fault Chuck for his weaker songwriting abilities. Almost every single Death song follows the same formula: Intro riffs Short verse Pre-chorus that is, for some reason always longer than the verse Chorus Solo Another short verse Repeat Pre-chorus Repeat Chorus The thing that irks me the most is that the amount of lyrical content leads me to believe that Chuck also lacked lyric writing abilities. Almost all Death songs have verses that are way too short and pre-choruses that are way too long. The only two songs I can think of that don't follow the formula are "Crystal Mountain" and "Perennial Quest"; incidentally, these are the best songs by them. Not even in Megadeth's most well known songs have I seen that kind of formula. Dave wins.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 9:11pm
EVIL CHUCK!!!!!  ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: Xaxaar
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 10:04pm
Chuck...but at least it's a bit closer than Dave vs. Kirk.  ------------- 
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 3:19am
A good case and I agree. The formulaic song structure of Death�s songs also irk me at times. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Wilytank wrote:Posted By: Woutjinho
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 3:53am
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Chuck Schuldiner. Though, I'm getting tired of hearing his name how important he was for death metal etc etc. But that's how it goes when someone dies I suppose.
Chuck Schuldiner has been more influential I think in his genre. -------------  |
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 7:02pm
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I don't know Chuck enough to say. The only Death albums I've heard are Scream Bloody Gore, Sound Of Perseverance and Symbolic. Have never been in the mood to get into them properly either, I know they're very good... but I can't be bothered. -------------  My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 1:01pm
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Interesting analysis of the Death songwriting above, maybe that's why I get bored halfway into each Death album. Sure Dave for me. |
Posted By: Woutjinho
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 5:53am
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But Dave loves Jesus and believes in voodoo. Some of his interviews are hillarious. ------------- |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 7:40am
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Yeah the man isn�t always sensible to my ears either, but he is a gifted composer IMO. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: RuneWalsh2112
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 6:27pm
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I asked Dave about it but he didn't seem to know who Chuck was... http://www.askdavemustaine.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.askdavemustaine.com/ ------------- 
Wait... are those suspenders?!? |
Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 8:09pm
"First of all, what is your name?" My answer: SteakSause "Now we're talkin'." -------------
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 4:50pm
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Schuldiner!
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 7:36pm
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Holy hell...this is borderline impossible for me. Guess I need to say I love both, they are 2 of my absolute favorite guitarists and both are immensely skilled and great songwriters. I can't even compare vocal styles since they are just too different. Chuck's was obvious fitting for his music, and Dave was obviously not very good at all but again, wouldn't really fly in death metal. I'm also disregarding lyrics since I do not give a flying fuck about them, (though I'd have to give the nod to Dave) Wow, I'm giving my vote to Dave by just a hair. It's his composition skills that gives him the nod. Even there it's just a hair difference and I must say Chuck improved vastly over time. Though still, can't disagree with willytank...a tad formulaic and that's why I give Dave the nod. Even Dave had some patterns though: verse, small solo, verse, small solo, verse, different verse, epic back and forth soloing. It's very evident on "Kill Em All" the Metllica album with most Dave influence and quite different from their rest... ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 7:52pm
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All I can say is this.... (I looked at the tabs once, the real wild riff...considering the speed it's played at I almost fainted) ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2012 at 7:21pm
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2012 at 9:27pm
| I listen to Megadeth more frequently than Death, although I can't deny Chuck's contribution to the genre. I'll vote Chuck. |
Posted By: Jd_Wheels
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2012 at 8:23pm
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I am a fan of both of these stellar musicians, because of their contributions to metal in general has been more than simply huge. Each has made his mark in the Metal world that will be never erased... and will influence all who come to play and dream moshing thoughts As a guitarist ... gotta go with Chuck.... but back in the day ( 80's-90's) gotta nod to the Dave, he invented how to thrash.
It was one of those questions that each had merits, but each in their own time gave the world who they were with honesty and sheer aggression. |
Posted By: 1967/ 1976
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2012 at 7:57am
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 4:23am
Chuck, he doesn't have Dave's nerdy voice
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