Beloved albums that you can't get on with
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Topic: Beloved albums that you can't get on with
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Subject: Beloved albums that you can't get on with
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 8:14am
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So everybody here has probably read dozens of 'Top 50 albums ever,' 'Top 100 records you must hear before you die' sort of lists, in magazines, blogs, sites etc Are there any albums held up to a mythic status that you just don't get all the fuss about ? My Choices are: Napalm Death - Scum. - I am a gigantic Napalm Death fan, but this record is just not good in my ears. I used to get upset by people who went on about how great scum was and had never even heard of their other albums, it reinforced the undeserving, gimmick based popularity of what I saw as a dreadful album. I've since grown out of that, but the album doesn't ever sound as good in my ears as the likes of Harmony Corruption or Enemy Of The Music Business. Sepultura - Roots. - It is just a bit dull, incohesive and missing some special spark, as far as I can hear. Rush - Moving Pictures. - Just when compared to the four before it, why is this one supposedly so much better ? This album I actually do like a lot, just don't understand its status. NIN - The Downward Spiral - I prefer everything after it. Kiss - Destroyer - Just a bit weaker and cheesier than the three ones before it and the two after it. Why is this the big one ? Exodus - Bonded By Blood - Great title track, but weakish album. Balof charming but not as good a singer as Zetro or Dukes in my opinion. -------------  My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 8:50am
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Carcass - Heartwork (yep this one has never done the trick for me. I always get 2 or 3 tracks into the album and then start getting severely bored by the cold and clinical production and Jeff�s tame and monotone sneer. Where�s the passion from Necroticism? An album I personally view as one of the best death metal albums out there). I understand the importance of the album and I wouldn�t rate it low, but I don�t enjoy it.
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Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 11:28am
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Gorguts - Obscura and From Wisdom to Hate. The fact that Obscura gets almost unanimous praise really annoys me. I think it's nothing more than technical w**kery with sub-par production. From Wisdom to Hate is the same situation, better production. Nargaroth - Geliebte des Regens. There is a holdout of Nargaroth fans, and a large number of them love this album. I would do the same if it wasn't so...boring! Haken - Aquarius. It's like they took the boring bits from Dream Theater's Scenes From a Memory (a weak album imo) and made tried to make it sound complicated and shit. Dream Theater - Scenes From a Memory. I'd actually like this album a bit more if "Through Her Eyes", "One Last Time", and "The Spirit Carries On" didn't exist. Those songs make up the majority of the boring bits of album. Pantera - everything after Cowboys From Hell. It's all boring to me. Dimebag isn't as great as people are giving him credit for. Phil Anselmo's lyrics and delivery makes him sound like something of a w**gger (though he could be much worse). Vinnie Paul is probably the worst of the bunch, but that's mostly due to him destroying what bits of credibility he had left by playing in bands like Damageplan or Hellyeah. ------------- 
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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 11:40am
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Elvenking - The Scythe (it's had some panning from their fanbase, but it was apparently their best selling album so...) Dream Theater - Awake (I don't hate it, but I don't get its general high regard). Sepultura - Roots (one of the worst albums I've ever heard). ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 12:43pm
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Napalm Death - Scum (I appreciate the ambitious and groundbreaking attitude of the release, but I fail to find very many musically redeeming aspects to the album) Cannibal Corpse - Eaten Back to Life & Butchered at Birth (I'm not too familiar with their whole discography, but both of these albums strike me as just decent; nothing more, nothing less) ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 2:46pm
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One I was thinking about lately, but haven't reviewed yet: Somewhere In Time by Iron Maiden. I don't exactly hate the album, but I find it rather bland, especially compared to all the albums before it. The clean, synth-soaked sound is interesting, but I prefer my Maiden a bit more raw sounding. ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 4:19pm
"Somewhere in Time" is my favorite album of all time. Actually, I'm having a hard time with this exercise... I just can't think of a popular metal album that I don't like (there probably are some, but they don't come to mind). ------------- 
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Stooge wrote:Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 4:37pm
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Yeah I actually found it a bit hard too Kim. It doesn�t really make sense to bring up obscure albums no one knows about, and most famous albums are famous for a reason. At least to most people. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Xaxaar
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2011 at 10:54pm
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Operation Mindcrime I'm not a huge fan of. I agree it's Queensryche's best, but still not saying a whole lot. Master of Puppets is also something that I don't think I'll ever appreciate as much as the next metal head. It's okay. Nevermind...I'll never understand why it gets so much praise. Something in the Way is probably the only track I can say I really like off that album. In Utero is a much better album, and even so, In Utero isn't all that good. ------------- 
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Posted By: Woutjinho
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 6:28am
Maybe it's handier to see a top 100 album list or something?
But I think the newer albums of Death are a good example for me. And Opeth. Progressive stuff in general actually haha.
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Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 8:00am
http://www.metal-rules.com/polls/index.php?id=6 http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-19691231 http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-metal.html http://rateyourmusic.com/list/beezlebub/top_100_metal_albums/ http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albumsddd.html http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php?album_style=Thrash http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/the-50-greatest-heavy-metal-albums-of-all-time-245511/1 http://www.metal-rules.com/polls/index.php?id=7 http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Lusikka/metal_hammer__top_50_thrash_metal_albums_ http://www.squidoo.com/StonerRock-Doom-Psychedelic http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2006/jul/16/popandrock.shopping http://www.turkku.com/music/inter_lp.html http://rateyourmusic.com/list/AbsoluteIdealist/my_top_50_favorite_thrash_metal_albums_of_all_time/ http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/guardian100.htm http://top1000albums.blogspot.com/ ------------- My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: Vic
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 10:31am
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I'm pretty much in the same boat with everyone here. Although I will say that the hardest thing in this thread was go through some of the answers without screaming "WHAT??? BLASPHEMY! KILL HIM WITH FIRE!!!". But as far as weird tastes go, I'll say I prefer Lethal's Programmed (which has been labelled - a bit too much imo - as a Queensryche clone) higher than any Queensryche album. I also prefer Tom Mallicoat (who was labelled a Tate clone because of this album) over Tate. So there! ------------- 42 |
Posted By: Diogenes
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 3:23pm
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Oh, goody! Anything by Tool Almost anything by Opeth Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence Ziltoid Crimson |
Posted By: Woutjinho
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 5:52am
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Sepultura - Arise. I think it's not that great. Thesame goes for Beneath The Remains and Chaos Ad and Roots.
Schizophrenia is the album where it's at I think.
And there used to be a time where I thought Pantera was cool. I still enjoy it from time to time, but in general... It's too cheesy for my taste. ------------- |
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 7:04am
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Cowboys From Hell, by Pantera - very boring to me. Nevermind, by Nirvana - good... when I were a teenager. Nowadays, for me is trash like all the Nirvana releases. Empire, by Queenryche - Boring... Fear of The Dark, by Iron Maiden - I love most of discog of Maiden, but for me Fear of The Dark is overrated. I prefer the prog side of Maiden...  Roots, by Sepultura - Sepultura is excellent, I like most of their discography, including the awesome Dante XXI. But ROOTS???? Die, Nu Metal, DIE!  |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 9:24am
I haven't listened to the album since around the time it came out, but I wasn't nearly as blown away by that one as most people were. It was probably still a good album since Devin's work is usually consistently pleasing, so I'll have to revisit that album some day. ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 6:26pm
Honestly the only Pantera album I enjoy at all is Trendkill |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 8:36pm
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It's been years since I've felt the urge to listen to Pantera. ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 9:34pm
Honestly, the only album by this band that I've found interesting so far is Winter Wake. I think The Scythe is on the same level as their first two albums. -------------
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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 6:15am
Yes, for me, Pantera was ever an overrated band... |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 6:20am
I have to completely and utterly disagree with you there. The Scythe is terrible as far as I'm concerned. The first two + Two Tragedy Poets (ironically their acoustic album is better than most of their metal albums) are pretty much essential as far as I'm concerned. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 8:59am
I said this yesterday, but I convinced myself to give Far Beyond Driven a listen today. It's the only Pantera album I own. I used to have the live album, but didn't like it much, and the rest of their albums belonged to my brother. ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 9:25am
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I rarely get the urge to listen to Pantera these days (mostly because, as I got older, my musical horizon has broadened so much that rather then being a central figure in my musical universe Pantera became one of many figures), but whenever I listen to "Cowboys from Hell" and "Far Beyond Driven", I enjoy it as much now as I did back then. I like "Far Beyond Driven", too, but it never impressed me as much as the two other albums did. I was never interested in the post "Far Beyond..."-releases.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 5:04pm
It's weird that this topic can up and gave me the urge to listen to a Pantera album again. I didn't even realize today was the anniversary of Dime's murder.  ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 8:27pm
| it is? I'd better throw some on, too |
Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 9:34pm
Fitting. I've listened to TTP today and think it's now the worst of the bunch. Now I've got another item to contribute to this thread with. I'd rather listen to The Scythe a hundred more times than listen to shit like "Heaven is a Place On Earth" again. Elvenking don't do much for me. I find them really underwhelming folk metal. If what they do is a mixture of power metal and folk metal, then I'd rather choose one of the two branching paths: extreme sounding folk metal that I'm used to (like Ensiferum and Equilibrium), or Elvenking's fellow countrymen Rhapsody (of Fire). -------------
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Posted By: Woutjinho
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 11:32am
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Posted By: buttsled
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 2:34pm
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Moreso entire bands than albums. I love prog, I love metal, and I love prog-metal, but I am just not down with Savatage, Queensryche, or Dream Theater, arguably the original big 3 of prog-metal.
Roots is a travesty and signified the death of Sepultura in my eyes.
I love Somewhere in Time. Seventh Son...is where they kind of got a little out there for me. It's Maiden, so it rules, but compared to the stuff before it's kind of weak.
I also love Pantera. Vulgar Display is one of the most important metal albums ever, IMO.
I agree about Moving Pictures. It is great but compared to the masterpieces released before it it pales.
I'll say that all of Nile's releases after Amongst the Catacombs... were fairly disappointing to me. Good stuff, but a bit of a letdown considering what they unleashed upon us so early on.
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Posted By: Woutjinho
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 3:45pm
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Oh that reminds me. I HATED Seventh Of A Seventh Son... Listened to it once and deleted it immediatly from my computer. I've heard everything from the early and the old stuff of Iron Maiden, but this was probably the worst... Some even think it's their best... ------------- |
Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 1:25pm
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Megadeth - Killing Is My Business... Guns N Roses - Appetite For Destruction ------------- http://www.facebook.com/FinalSignOfficial" rel="nofollow - FINAL SIGN - US Power Metal |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 12:59am
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Dream Theater-Scenes From A Memory. I think Awake is the best they have done Anything by Kiss. I hear nothing more than an average hard rock band in them... Om-Negura Bunget. I don't hear anything special in this album at all. Back In Black-AC/DC. I've always failed to see how this one is considered to be so much better than their other albums, I think Razor's Edge is probably their best. Images And Words-Dream Theater. Same as Scenes From A Memory, and I hate Pull Me Under, terrible song  . |
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 6:22am
Guns N Roses? Vastly overrated!
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Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 9:47am
I completely agree... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/FinalSignOfficial" rel="nofollow - FINAL SIGN - US Power Metal |
Posted By: Xaxaar
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 12:59pm
Sadly, I agree. It seems like an album that I would love when just describing the concept and instrumentation, but then when I actually hear it, it does very little for me. Well, still 3.5 quality, but thought it could be better... -------------
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 10:26am
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One I forgot about was Painkiller by Judas Priest. I like the title track, Metal Meltdown, and Touch Of Evil, but most of the other songs don't really do much for me. But dammit I love 70s Priest! ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Diogenes
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 8:40pm
I love you. |
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2012 at 7:45am
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Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2012 at 8:32am
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I agree with Sheavy, Awake is Dream Theater's best album, IMO.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2012 at 8:38am
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Put me in the Awake is Dream Theater's best category as well. ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Dominator
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 5:35pm
| Anything by Tool or Opeth. |