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Topic: Christian Metal.Posted By: Sheavy
Subject: Christian Metal.
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 7:22pm
Thread for anything pertaining to any Christian Metal Band. Thoughts, your favorite christian metal band etc...
Replies: Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 3:04am
I like Believer: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/believer.aspx?ac=believer" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/believer.aspx?ac=believer . Especially their "Gabriel" album:
...Saviour Machine is another great Christian band: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/saviour-machine.aspx?ac=savio" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/saviour-machine.aspx?ac=savio . Incredibly dark apocalyptic stuff. I can highly recommend these three albums:
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 2:08pm
Aren't Trouble also a Christian band?
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 3:48pm
^They were perceived as such back in the eighties, but I once read an interview with the band where they stated that it wasn�t true to the extent that they were preaching to people (not that Christian bands necessarily do that). Their lyrics were just written from the point of view of a Christian person.
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 3:55pm
Fair enough. So, we're after [[Christian metal] bands] here, and not so much [[Christian] metal bands]. Deliverance and Torniquet are Christian metal bands in the former sense, right? In any case, some of their stuff is pretty good.
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Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 4:09pm
I always wonder if Soulfly count ? Also P.O.D ?
They have Chrisitanity related stuff but I don't know if that is enough to make it 'count.'
Is their a sound to it ? Like 'all death vocals, with bagpipes, only ever epically slow guitar solos and never any double kicks'
...or is it just, the band told the audience they are christians ?
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Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 4:11pm
Kingcrimsonprog wrote:
I always wonder if Soulfly count ? Also P.O.D ?
They have Chrisitanity related stuff but I don't know if that is enough to make it 'count.'
Is their a sound to it ? Like 'all death vocals, with bagpipes, only ever epically slow guitar solos and never any double kicks'
...or is it just, the band told the audience they are christians ?
No there is really no musical characteristics for Christian Metal, it's not really a genre. It's essentally just any Metal bands with overt Christian lyrics and imagery, etc..
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 4:14pm
I just thought of a really lousy Christian power metal band: Golden Resurrection
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Posted By: Xaxaar
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 4:39pm
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Posted By: Lynx33
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 6:49pm
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/stride.aspx?ac=Stride" rel="nofollow - Stride is interesting too.
Posted By: Vobiscum
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 8:48pm
Antestor Crimson Moonlight Morphia Virgin Black Deliverance Antidemon Clemency Slechvalk Crimson Torn Frost Like Ashes Amoz Narnia Bride Oficina G3
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 8:55pm
I like Zao
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Posted By: Nick Dilley
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 9:49pm
Time Signature wrote:
Fair enough. So, we're after [[Christian metal] bands] here, and not so much [[Christian] metal bands]. Deliverance and Tourniquet are Christian metal bands in the former sense, right? In any case, some of their stuff is pretty good.
I think that Tourniquet is Christian metal in the latter sense...right?
Anyway, I always found this label to be troubling as some so-called Christian Metal bands don't want the label, even though they are practicing Christians, with the reason being that although their religion and worldview informs the music, they don't write to evangelize.
Does anyone know any Iranian metal bands? Would you call them Islamic Metal? Does Japanese Metal = Buddhist Metal or Shinto Metal? Does Chinese Metal = Confucian or Communist Metal?
I know that sounds like I'm venting, but I am not. Just curious. Lots of subgenres are questionable in my personal opinion...but even if you don't accept that, you have to admit subgenres based on ideologies are questionable in the way people liberally apply them.
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:51pm
I wasn't really thinking of Christian Metal as a subgenre when I made this thread. Was thinking Metal bands that happen to be Christian.
Posted By: Nick Dilley
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:57pm
Sheavy wrote:
I wasn't really thinking of Christian Metal as a subgenre when I made this thread. Was thinking Metal bands that happen to be Christian.
I wasn't trying to sound harsh or anything. But I guess since you brought that up, let me ask:
When talking about metal bands that happen to have Christian members, why does it matter (whether or not the person wondering has good or bad intentions)?
I mean, why call them Christian Metal if the music isn't concerned with that modifier (Christian)?
I'm just asking, cause it seems weird to me. That's all.
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:05pm
Nick Dilley wrote:
Sheavy wrote:
I wasn't really thinking of Christian Metal as a subgenre when I made this thread. Was thinking Metal bands that happen to be Christian.
I wasn't trying to sound harsh or anything. But I guess since you brought that up, let me ask:
When talking about metal bands that happen to have Christian members, why does it matter (whether or not the person wondering has good or bad intentions)?
I mean, why call them Christian Metal if the music isn't concerned with that modifier (Christian)?
I'm just asking, cause it seems weird to me. That's all.
Not sure I really understand what exactly your asking. Christian Metal isn't a sub-genre.
Posted By: Nick Dilley
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:12pm
You mean here?
I hear people talk about Christian Metal as a subgenre all the time! But if most people don't consider it as such, then it all makes more sense to me. Thanks.
...but on a related topic, I personally think that lyrics can be a defining characteristic of genre (not that you see A LOT of it in rock), and if there were groups that sang solely about Christian values (and maybe bible thumped their double-kick rhythms?!) then I would totally consider it a subgenre myself. But if a bunch of Christian guys formed a band, I wouldn't see a reason to label them as a Christian band (like, say, As I Lay Dying).
But, I was under the impression that Christian Metal is a genre, and I guess I still think so. When one thinks of Christian Rock, the defining characteristic is lyric and the intentional evangelical gesture that their music represents. Why not with metal? And if not with metal, why does it matter if the members are Christian?
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:20pm
Well, I haven't seen anyone here consider Christian Metal an actually sub-genre. There really isn't anything other than the lyrics that make a Christian band, Christian. I'd say that there are certain common lyrical topics in certain metal genres, but a band doesn't have to have those certain lyrical content to be in that genre.
I mean, theres Christian bands within black metal, death metal, metalcore, deathcore, hard rock, heavy metal, glam metal, and on and on.
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:23pm
Some favs of mine are Zao, one of the bands that 'founded' metalcore.
Demon Hunter.
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:26pm
oh thats also why I put this thread here in the metal lounge, instead of in the genre appreciation section, cause i don't see it as a subgenre.
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:26pm
Nick Dilley wrote:
Does anyone know any Iranian metal bands? Would you call them Islamic Metal? Does Japanese Metal = Buddhist Metal or Shinto Metal? Does Chinese Metal = Confucian or Communist Metal?
I would only consider them to be Islamic/Buddhist/Shinto/Confucian/Communist Metal if they had overt Islamic/Buddhist/Shinto/Confucsion/Communist lyrics and imagery present in their music. And calling a band "Christian Metal" or "Islamic Metal", etc aren't actually legitimate musical genres, they are just used as descriptions more or less.
Posted By: Nick Dilley
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:28pm
Sheavy wrote:
Well, I haven't seen anyone here consider Christian Metal an actually sub-genre. There really isn't anything other than the lyrics that make a Christian band, Christian. I'd say that there are certain common lyrical topics in certain metal genres, but a band doesn't have to have those certain lyrical content to be in that genre.
I mean, theres Christian bands within black metal, death metal, metalcore, deathcore, hard rock, heavy metal, glam metal, and on and on.
Yeah, I agree. I just wonder why people need to call them Christian bands then. Just seems superfluous or discriminatory in a way--and let me say I don't think you were doing that at all, obviously.
With Christian Rock, the reason people seek out those bands is for their lyrics, and that creates a distinction for a large number of bands, which to me means a genre in this case.
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:42pm
Moar amazing stuff. Enter Mortification.
I think they were the first Christian Death metal band, formed in the late 80's, and released their first album in 90 or 91.
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 12:15am
Some moar.
Argyle Park. Industrial metal.
Klank. Industrial metal.
Paramaecium. Doom Metal.
Living Sacrifice. Thrash Metal.
and one of my favorite favorites the Christian goregrind band Vomitorial Corpulence.
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 11:19am
Trouble. Awesome and very influential in the stoner/doom genre.
Posted By: Jbird
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 10:10am
Lynx33 wrote:
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/stride.aspx?ac=Stride" rel="nofollow - Stride is interesting too.
Were they? I didn't know that.
I've got one of their albums...very Dream Theater-meets-Journey kinda thing going on.....or is it a different Stride I'm thinking of?
Theocracy:
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 1:50pm
Yeah Theocracy are pretty great. Like if Dream Theater were a Power Metal band, which can only be a good thing in my book.
Posted By: Mj�llnir
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2012 at 8:47am
I'm quite a fan of Seventh Angel, who mixed thrash and doom metal to create a nice individual sound. A couple of tunes here from their second album, "Lament for the Weary":
A bit of a lost gem of the British thrash scene.
Posted By: Guitar Noir
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 5:24pm
Extol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 10:58am
Mystic http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/mystic.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/mystic.aspx , an experimental metal band were recently added here. If you check the websites etc the music is overtly Christianity inspired. No preaching though.
I guess my view on the Christian Metal tag is that it's a useful collective for those seeking specific Christian themes or praise music. It's not useful as a musical sub-genre, and neither should it be applied to bands of Christians, as opposed to Christian bands. It's all in the lyrics guess (unless the band is an instrumental one of course!). A good example of this might be a little obscure outfit called Black Sabbath were the lyrics are supernaturalist, at least half of the band members (first two incarnations at least) are practicing Christians, but you wouldn't call the Sabs a Christian metal band (even with a track like After Forever and all of those crucifixes).
Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 12:40am
Savior Machine
Harmony
Narnia
Neal Morse
Stryper
Posted By: Psydye
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 7:59am
Divinefire's another, I think. Then there's Rob Rock's solo stuff.