A civil discussion about Nickelback
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Topic: A civil discussion about Nickelback
Posted By: renkls
Subject: A civil discussion about Nickelback
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 2:00am
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Though I do not personally enjoy Nickelbacks music I am well aware that they are oft well hated on in the metal community, and indeed just as much so, if not more outside. What I am curious of, is what they have done to deserve this criticism. From what I can tell, it's fundamentally due to them being ridiculously successful despite rehashing the same song structure and style over and over again. While I'm not one for the redundant way of creating music, I don't treat them with too much animosity.
So, this topic is basically just a place where I guess for those who have heard of their work to share their views as well as their opinions on how they are frequently bashed for their artistic choices. I just thought of this, because Nickelback is indeed on these archives. |
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 2:53am
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I�ve only listened to the "hits" so I can�t comment on the body of their work. Personally I usually find mainstream rock/heavy rock boring as hell (especially song structures), and Nickelback (the songs that I�ve heard) fall under that catagory. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: renkls
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 3:50am
| I think it's probably the lack of ambition that I find boring, and that'd be in the song structure department most prominently. It definitely seems to lack substance. |
Posted By: renkls
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 3:53am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvujgcbaCF8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvujgcbaCF8 An amusing case in point.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 6:51am
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It�s also too clean and polished for my tastes, lacking bite and aggression. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 7:38am
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Posted By: renkls
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 7:53am
Note the word 'civil' in the topic title.
So I gather you feel there are no redeeming factors whatsoever? |
IMPF2112 wrote:Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 8:53am
yes. absolutely.
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Posted By: bartosso
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 11:14am
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Not much to discuss - metal community hates sell outs.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 11:25am
Too bland for my tastes. At times, they've sound like a watered down Alice In Chains. At others, a watered-down Metallica. The Canadian content rules on the radio/tv shove this band down our throats up here, not to mention a ton of other mediocre rock acts. I don't understand how radio/tv doesn't fill their Canadian quota with a variety of bands instead of the same 5 at any given time. I thought payola was supposed to be illegal/dead.  ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 1:03pm
>implying they were ever good to begin with
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Posted By: bartosso
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 1:20pm
I don't know, I actually meant that they're just making music for money and nothing else, probably misused the word "sell out" here (?) ------------- http://shrineofllyria.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - http://shrineofllyria.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Diogenes
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 3:36pm
Yeah, selling out means that a band or artist changes their style of music to fit the current trend in order to make more money. See Metallica's Black Album, the latest Korn album, etc. To me, Nickelback is just another radio rock band spearheading the post-grunge movement that was really popular at the start of the 2000s. I don't really pay attention to that sort of thing because I don't listen to the radio at all, but I just thought it was funny how much they were being promoted last year after being basically irrelevant for the previous 3. If anything, they stand out just because they're a bunch of douchebags, and not for any musical reasons. |
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 3:54pm
I'm assuming you don't live in Canada, because here everyone treats them as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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Posted By: bartosso
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 6:11pm
Then how do you call a band that begins their career with a style that fits the current trend in order to make big money from the very beginning?  ------------- http://shrineofllyria.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - http://shrineofllyria.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 6:14pm
shit
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Posted By: bartosso
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 6:15pm
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 6:32pm
Along with what's been mentioned, Chad Kroeger has an objectively bad singing voice. It's just gross.
I live in Canada and have never met somebody who likes Nickelback... or at least not enough to admit it. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 7:34pm
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Nickelback is one of those bands where they are just so painfully mediocre that it's tough to have any respect for them. Sure, I guess they aren't completely atrocious, but the fact that they sell millions of records for being below average is mind-blowing. I'd take them over most of the popular shit out there these days, but that isn't saying very much...
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Posted By: Diogenes
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 7:34pm
Nope. That's a shame to hear though. There are so many talented artists up there, but Canada seems to get a bad rap for the few garbage ones. |
Posted By: Doomster
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 8:18pm
| nickelback sux |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 9:50pm
That's exactly my frustration with them. Why all this airplay if they have so few who confess to be fans. My mom owns a Nickelback album, and she's the member in my family who is the least interested in discovering new music (sticks mainly to what she grew up with). ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 10:16pm
| I owned a Nickelback album when I was like 11, and it's probably the only cd I've ever resold |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 2:43am
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I was really into them when I was first getting into music, which was when Silver Side Up was released. Not having much experience with music at that point (and frankly Nickelback is the least embarrassing artist I was in to then) I bought everything they'd done up to that point that I could lay my hands on, which was three albums, a DVD and some singles as well. I was still really into them by the time they dropped The Long Road, which even to the fanboy I was then was a disappointing album. I was less into them but still bought All the Right Reasons in 2005 and found it to be a better album. At the time metal was beginning to take over my tastes more and more and not long after the release of All the Right Reasons I lost all interest in Nickelback. A friend, who still sings their praises to this day, lent me the next album, Dark Horse, so I could check it out and I found it to be awfully bad. I never brought it myself, although it somehow found it's way into my collection via my mother, who seems to still think they're one of my favourites. Still I'd take the Nickelback album over the Creed one that I got at the same time (which I've never listened to after about a year of owning it).
Honestly I don't think their music is that bad. Bland maybe, but not bad. I've heard plenty of music I would deem to be bad that I'd take Nickelback over any day. They only have two albums which pass mid-range ratings really for me and those ratings probably have a bit of nostalgia influencing them. Nostalgia is also the only reason I ever feel inclined to listen to them these days, in very rare moments of madness, and it's definitely the only thing that keeps me from selling their albums, as I have done with the majority of the other stuff I owned when I was first getting into music. But yeah they are overrated as can be. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 7:56am
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Growing up in an area where the population is almost entirely white conservative rednecks, Nickelback is one of those bands who I've come to associate with white trash. Especially with the singer's voice. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jbird
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2012 at 1:05am
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While I love to chuckle at Nickleback jokes and stuff, I don't hate them and certainly would rather hear them than stuff like Kanye West, Justin Bieber, etc. I just think their music is pretty bland. Canada should be promoting bands like Borealis  |
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 3:13pm
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I don't like Nickleback, in as much as they aren't one of 'my bands' but I have no dislike for them whatsoever. There's certain bands who always get the 'totally shitty band' tag at any given point in time, they never really deserve it and its just adolescent behavior that reasonable people should grow out of. Every piece of art has its lovers, haters and people who just don't care. I don't care about Nickleback. I'll bob my head to Leader Of Men and maybe Rockstar but I'll never buy an album or go see them live. But at the same time, I don' think that they're rubbish, or they can't play or any of that negative business. There's too much negativity in this world. Kings Of Leon and Coldplay and Nickleback and The White Stripes and Pete Doherty and Brian Adams and Poisen and Linkin Park and whoever else its cool to hate are all artistically relevant, talented people who do something for someone and I don't see the point in hating them. Not liking them certainly, but I don't get hating them. Music, and indeed all art is just 'here is a bunch of stuff... find which bits you like.' -------------  My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: vmoore
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 4:21pm
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Posted By: Psydye
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2013 at 12:16pm
Soccer mom music....is all I'm saying. I don't really like them at all, that is, their music...don't hate them personally though, as human beings.. |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2013 at 12:22pm
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I'm too old for Nickelback to ever have made an impact on my life. I am also too old to hate Nickelback. They're just part of the general rock landscape to me.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: 02 May 2013 at 1:28am
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Nickleback deserve all the criticism they get. All their songs sound the same stylistically and nothing they have done is new or anything. They are just another lame post-grunge band
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2013 at 9:48am
I've heard some of those bands criticized because as you say they're cool to hate, but Nickelback is by far worse than most of those. Their music is everything that's already been posted here, but also it's trash. The lyrics are stupid and hedonistic and the band seems to actively promote douchebaggery. Their fans (and yes I have been to a Nickelback concert  ) are generally obnoxious, selfish people who's highest ambition in life is to get wasted and nail whores in the back of pickup trucks. This seems to be the lifestyle the band promotes, and as far as I'm concerned, they can go f*ck themselves  |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2013 at 10:30am
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I like the Nickelback hits well enough. I own all of their albums, although admittedly I haven't really listened to them all that often in recent years. I rarely listen to the radio and I've never been to one of their concerts, so I can't necessarily say that I have been oversaturated with them over the years or have any opinion about who a Nickelback fan is. Tiger pitcher Phil Coke uses their song Burn It To The Ground as his song when he gets called into the game, and I kind of like that song so take that for what is worth. That is probably the majority of my exposure to them these days outside of when I listen to them on purpose, which again, isn't very often. ------------- 
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