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Topic: Where is "Epic Metal"?
Posted By: reality
Subject: Where is "Epic Metal"?
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 2:35pm
First of all being a long time member of Progarchives i was wondering when someone was going to take the excellent format and apply it to other genres (or wait till every band gets included on PA). My question though is where does the "Epic Metal" genre (Manowar ect...) fit into the categories set up? Discuss...



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Posted By: NJCat_11
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 3:00pm
I've never heard the term Epic Metal.  Manowar is in Traditional HM and Power Metal, which are both pretty "epic."  Any sub-genre of metal can be epic.

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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 3:30pm
I've heard of several different permutations of genre names, but can't recall seeing "epic metal" being used as a genre name.  Epic is something I see applying to individual songs.  There are power metal epics, death metal epics, black metal epics, etc.


Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 4:07pm
It seems to me that the epic type of metal normally is subsumed by power metal and symphonic metal - at least those are the genres that tend to most towards epic tunes. Of course, if we think in terms of song length, then we find epic metal all across the board.

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 5:03pm
I'm quite positive I've heard the term somewhere, though I have never seen it used as regularly as the definition 'Power Metal'. Personally, I'd avoid a fragmentation of subgenres, at least for the time being - it is a slippery slope, and has a lot of divisive potential. 


Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 5:59pm
Epic metal isn't really a genre. I can see it being used as a genre in the early days of power metal. But now we have power metal, which is a better and more popular term.

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Posted By: DeathOfSeasons
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 6:00pm
Well Epic Metal really doesn't exist. Metal can be epic, but most bands who ever get labelled "Epic Metal" would probably fit under Power Metal, Symphonic Metal, Folk Metal or Heavy Metal.


Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 8:10am
Epic metal, just an all encompassing term for power and folk metal that one of my mates used.


Posted By: reality
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 2:11pm
I think what i meant as "Epic Metal" was the other definitions of epic:

  • epic poem: a long narrative poem telling of a hero's deeds
  • constituting or having to do with or suggestive of a literary epic; "epic tradition
Manowar is all about heros and warriors and how to live your life like one. Virgin Steele is like that as well. They are not Power metal but a separate genre called Epic metal in the sense that their music and lyrics are modeled after the style and content of an epic poem. Most of these bands (strangely) come out of New York and New Jersey. Themes are more Conan the barbarian, Greek or Roman legends and the "warrior" metal brotherhood. Very different than Folk Metal, symphonic metal or Power metal.

Ironically the Bio on the band Medieval Steel from MMA calls them: "Medieval Steel are an American epic metal band "


Posted By: reality
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 2:21pm
   
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Epic metal is a subgenre of  http://en.allexperts.com/e/h/he/heavy_metal_music.htm - heavy metal .

Traditional Epic metal

It was born in the  http://en.allexperts.com/e/u/un/united_states.htm - U.S.  in the early  http://en.allexperts.com/e/0/1980s.htm - 1980s  as a slower and more solemn branch of heavy metal. Early albums remained quite close to the main genre, both in the music and in lyrical themes like bikes, women, and a healthy amount of self-apology, adding with time themes from  http://en.allexperts.com/e/e/ep/epic_poetry.htm - epic poetry ,  http://en.allexperts.com/e/m/my/mythology.htm - mythology  and  http://en.allexperts.com/e/f/fa/fantasy.htm - fantasy literature. Bands from this era include  http://en.allexperts.com/e/c/ci/cirith_ungol_%28band%29.htm - Cirith Ungol ,  http://en.allexperts.com/e/o/om/omen_%28band%29.htm - Omen ,  http://en.allexperts.com/e/m/ma/manilla_road.htm - Manilla Road  and http://en.allexperts.com/e/m/me/medieval_steel.htm - Medieval Steel .

Later, it received influences from  http://en.allexperts.com/e/d/do/doom_metal.htm - doom metal  bands like  http://en.allexperts.com/e/c/ca/candlemass_%28band%29.htm - Candlemass  and from http://en.allexperts.com/e/b/ba/bathory_%28band%29.htm - Bathory 's Viking-themed albums, lost some of the light hearted themes for http://en.allexperts.com/e/h/hi/history.htm - history  and  http://en.allexperts.com/e/r/re/religion.htm - religion . Bands from this era tend to be from the mediterranean area, and include  http://en.allexperts.com/e/d/dr/dragonforce.htm - Dragonforce  from  http://en.allexperts.com/e/e/en/england.htm - England ,DoomSword from  http://en.allexperts.com/e/i/it/italy.htm - Italy ,  http://en.allexperts.com/e/f/fo/forsaken.htm - Forsaken  from  http://en.allexperts.com/e/m/ma/malta.htm - Malta  and  http://en.allexperts.com/e/b/ba/battleroar.htm - BattleRoar  from  http://en.allexperts.com/e/g/gr/greece.htm - Greece .



Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 12:31pm
I like Eric metal more.

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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 24 May 2010 at 5:25am
it's like asking "where is PIRATE metal" which is nothing more than power metal with lyrics dealing with pirates.

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