Avant-Garde Metal Appreciation Thread
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Topic: Avant-Garde Metal Appreciation Thread
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Subject: Avant-Garde Metal Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 3:18am
Welcome to the Avant-Garde Metal Appreciation thread, an area to discuss, deconstruct and generally over-analyse all your favourite avant-garde metal bands. |
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 12 May 2010 at 3:21am
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Posted in the avant-garde recommendations thread :
EBONYLAKE : The music proposed is an original mixture of technical black-metal and avant-garde classical (with influences drawn from great contemporary classical composers like Penderecki or Prokofiev, as well as horror movie soundtracks).
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4574 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4574 |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 12 May 2010 at 4:04am
Is SHINING an avant band with metal content or is it a metal band with avantgarde approach? Their latest album (Blackjazz) sounds like Reign In Blood meets Mr. Bungle/Sleepytime Gorilla Museum 
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 12 May 2010 at 4:09am
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I haven't heard it, although I intend to sit all the way through it. From what I have heard from others it would be classified as avant, but be that metal-avant or avant-metal, I'm sure nobody really knows or cares.  |
Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: 12 May 2010 at 12:20pm
I started listening Blackjazz, i heard few songs, and stop listening to furter, it melted my brain, so it's avant ------------- www.last.fm/user/angelmk 
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harmonium.ro wrote:Posted By: Murphy
Date Posted: 12 May 2010 at 12:50pm
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In keep with what's on the site so far under avant-garde the things that interest me most a bands like Earth and Ved Buens Ende. Over the years I've grown a heavy dislike towards many of the avant-metal groups like Mr Bungle and their ilk; genre mashing. If anyone followed the RIO/avant thread on PA in 'o6 they'd probably be aware of my thoughts on this style. Unfortunately I'm a little pressed at the moment to elucidate further. ------------- Guai ai gelidi mostri �Everything that is doddering, squint-eyed, infamous, sullying, and grotesque is contained for me in this single word: God� Andr� Breton |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 12 May 2010 at 3:31pm
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^ Mr Bungle are fantastic, how is it possible to dislike their music ? I understand that someone dislikes black metal bands gone atmospheric or jazzy but not Mr Bungle, they are a good deal of fun, versatility and originality. |
Posted By: Murphy
Date Posted: 13 May 2010 at 7:20pm
I did have a hit with them many years gone by, but that interest was ephemeral. These days it sounds too rooted in its own hedonistic ways for it to be of much interest to me. I got the kick out of their music through a certain time in my life, then as tastes tend to, they diverted off into different areas; I guess I found their music 'disposable'. ------------- Guai ai gelidi mostri �Everything that is doddering, squint-eyed, infamous, sullying, and grotesque is contained for me in this single word: God� Andr� Breton |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2010 at 3:14pm
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*bump* FWIW, I've never had much interest in Mr. Bungle either.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/I_am_A_Person" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2010 at 6:42pm
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I don't "like" Mr. Bungle either, but I can't not appreciate what they did. You know that quote "avantgarde music is not pleasant to hear, but somebody has to do it" (or something like that). Can anyone recommend something similar to Unexpect? |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2010 at 6:46pm
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I've never heard anything quite like Unexpect, they are insane.
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2010 at 6:04am
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I picked up a couple of friends in my car today and I had Bungle's "Carry Stress in the Jaw" playing during a particularly chaotic and very 'noise'-y section towards the end of the first half. They said it was just stupid and picked up my iPod to change it. This coming from a FNM guy who knew Patton was in it. He didn't even try to appreciate it...
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2010 at 6:29am
Try Ebonylake if you can get a hold of their only album. I�m told it�s pretty rare: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ebonylake.aspx?ac=ebon - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ebonylake.aspx?ac=ebon ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2010 at 4:41pm
Definitely, mind blowing band... I'm yet to acquire their first album, though. -------------  
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2010 at 4:48pm
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2010 at 8:30pm
| Fantomas is an acquired taste. |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2010 at 4:37am
"Diablo Swing Orchestra" !http://www.diabloswing.com/ - http://www.diabloswing.com/ Same exact humour and chops, takes weird turns and lots of fun! I too am a Fan of Fantomas and Mr. Bungle, the weirder it gets the more I like it .(Hey, if Terry Bozzio can play Drums with them! . . .) I've got a (ANOTHER  ) List of Avant Garde stuff to put up soon .------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2010 at 6:43am
Thanks Antonio, I'll check both DSO and Fantomas! 
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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2010 at 12:05am
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Oh! and JUST remembered these guys, would be a Triple Threat for a Avant Garde Metal Fest: "Stolen Babies" http://www.stolenbabiestheband.com/ - http://www.stolenbabiestheband.com/ Unexpect, Diablo Swing Orchestra and Stolen Babies sure do love mixing Period Popular Dance Music into their madness  !And I see mention of "Sleepytime Gorilla Museum", not only checkout their music but the Beautiful Web-sites they come up with for each album!  Very clever!http://www.sleepytimegorillamuseum.com/ - http://www.sleepytimegorillamuseum.com/ ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: kogaionon
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 6:05pm
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great avantgarde metal album: fredrik thordendal special defects - sol niger within ..it's a project of meshuggah's lead guitarist fredrik thordendal also, for those who like mr bungle, you should try secret chiefs 3 (also with trey spruance): Book M (2001) Book of Horizons (2004) Second Grand Constitution and Bylaws (2000) |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 6:21pm
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Hmmm . . . I'm a HUGE fan of Fredrik Thordendals Solo Album (he should make more!) but I wouldnt exactly call it "Avant Garde" (imo), the only really thing that is "Weird" about it is the (Harsh)Vocals which may be really irritating to some, but for me the music is just too brilliant. I'd put it in the Tech-Thrash/Math Metal territory (So I guess that means "Prog Metal" ).Here . . . YOU decide :The Bonus Track: "Missing Time" really shows his love of Guitarist "Allan Holdsworth" .Actually . . . I'd put Meshuggah's "Catch33" in the Avant Garde catagory for sure!(well . . . it pretty much is all over the place as Metal goes): Be prepared for your Brain to implode in the 7th demension . . . Extreee Note: When listening to above track, 1. Hopefully youre into the Avant Garde stuff. 2. be patient, this album really had to grow on me, and I had to take it out of context of a typical Meshuggah Album, this was very experimental for them. The drums were actually "programmed" by each member but all the sounds are sampled from Haak's Drum kit (  ), the above Track ismeant to be like a "Trip" . . . where that trip goes, is pretty scary .------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: Ulfednar
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 6:35pm
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I'm thinking maybe Ayreon, Ram-Zet or Solefald might fit in around here? |
Posted By: kogaionon
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 6:58pm
well, special defects incorporates a lot of things from jazz, classical and opera, things based on the polirithmic layer. in comparison with meshuggah that only use polirithmia, i consider fredrik thordendal much more experimental, therefore putting him in "avant-garde" ps: i preffer "chaosphere" or "nothing" from meshuggah; personally, i consider "catch33" a rather dull album |
Posted By: kogaionon
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 7:05pm
i consider ayreon to be more prog metal than avant-garde as much as solefald, i think their first album might be considered avant-garde due to it's complex structure and systematic changes in style; i admit that after their first album, my interest in them ran short, so i can't make an opinion about what came after that |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 10:08pm
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Ulver, Arcturus and Solefald are awesome! Heres a few of my faves: Thought Industry. Though the 1st album is like a Tech-Thrash/Math/Prog Metal album with wild left turns, its the 2nd album that goes totally Avant Garde. The albums after that sadly start to lose all metal aspects. Oberland's brilliant Poetry turned into Metal madness are a great read and often hillarious. But its these 2 albums that were way ahead of their time and over the heads of most . . . maybe still is. (111mzd!).  Unfortunately no-one has put-up tracks from "Songs for Insects" but . . .2nd Album gets more Avant Garde. "Mods Carve The Pig: Assassins, Toads and God's flesh". "Date Rape Cookbook": (Lyrics are also included under Vid at YOUtube). "Gelatin": Sculptured These guys are all over the place, at times sound like Ulver and Arcturus, and then . . . something else, can be weird but really neet stuff, not afraid to use "Trumpets and Trombones" either! Their 1st "The Spear of the Lily is Aureoled" I have not heard till I put this up, but have read about it since its release (Much like Opeth's 1st 3 albums, many people talking how different they were) and now I understand why. "Almond Beauty": "Between Goldberg": "Embodiement of the purest form of horror": (fine tuning their sound and better engineering) ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 4:21am
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Sculptured are a great band, really good stuff. Anderson (and Walton I think) of Agalloch perform with them. You can hear that tone in their music. Good extended compositions, good feeling - a band to watch out for in the future. Also, Meshuggah is avant in the mind-bending sense. I love them too, Haake is a damned genius. |
Posted By: kogaionon
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 10:47am
ok, this song somehow reminded me of Comus - First Utterance at some point anyway, sculptured sound interesting, thanks for sharing. will download them and start to listen to 'em more closely |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2010 at 6:37am
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Never heard Comus, but its funny that the melody at the beginning of a song I sampled sounds like the same melody on Thought Industry's "Song for Insects"-on the song "The Challice Vermillion"  Just heard this on YOUtube, and was always intrigued by the Cover Art: (I believe thats the Vocalist from Twisted Into Form and Spiral Architects original Singer). Really cool! ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 8:15am
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Age Of Silence are fantastic, I listened to their full length at a friend's house whilst studying last week, actually. Really solid stuff. -------------
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 9:28am
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^I�ve reviewed the album for Prog Archives and I actually found it rather mediocre. I had a hard time getting through the album enough times to write a review.
All but lead vocalist Lars Nedland, who btw is not the lead singer in Spiral Architect and Twisted Into Form, are also members of Winds. Another band I have a hard time really appreciating. Skilled musicians, but most of their stuff fail to captivate me. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 1:16pm
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I'm late by about a week on this one but I think that Sol Niger Within is one of the definitions of Avant-garde metal. A lot of it is from its jazz influence (free form jazz nonetheless, how avant-garde is that?) but there's other stuff that isn't just genre hopping. That and "Cosmic Vagina Dentata Organ" and "Magickal Theatre .33." which I can't find a video of anywhere. ------------- Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want. |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 3:51pm
Hey UMUR, You know, I was ready to "prove you wrong" But by God! You are right and I'm amazed thatLeif Knashaug is NOT the singer of Age of Silence . . . they (both singers) sound Identicle in just about everyway (though I have only heard AoS on Internet Radio, dont own the album and are new to me) . . . so far. I mean listen to these 3 examples: "Lars Nedland": "Leif Knashaug": (Leif was original singer before "�yvind H�geland" but Leif only appears on Demos). Leif again: They sing in the same odd structures, within different musics, I'm amazed! I have to say I like "Winds" as well. A "Thrashier" Opeth-like sound, but when I first heard them long ago, I thought the same UMUR. I think thats why I cant be a "Critic" and write about new releases, my moods change, hearing fluctuates to what I'm "into" at the moment, and sometimes I need to take an album one "track" at a time to . . . get it. I couldnt get into "The Gathering" at 1st when I bought "How to measure a Planet", then to have "if_then_else" sit on my shelf for 3 years, and then to re-discover it (long story) and then being a HUGE fan of theirs and "then else" becoming my fave album in their catalogue (And "Night time Birds") .This would include MANY bands I did not like at 1st (or Albums), then years later say, "What the HELL was I thinking?" Topos (and whomever else), without getting into an argument, just speaking for myself, the only parts I hear that are Avant Garde in Sol Niger are some interludes in the music with the "Spoken Word" of Tomas Haak and the "Atmospheric" parts, but those are just little "moods" to coincide with the lyrical content and music, its not throughout the music like a "Age of Silence" or a Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum etc. , its not a "constant". The Jazz/Fusion parts are defintely there (as Fredrik sounds like a Heavy Metal version of Allan Holdsworth) through enhanced styles of the Guitar and the added Sax, but its much like Ihsahn's Solo albums do the same (Sax too) but not in an Avant Garde context throughout (just a few left- turns). If this were the case, ALL "Math Metal/Tech-Metal/Progressive Metal" could be rolled into 1 ball. I think 90% of Progressive Rock and Metal have Jazz/Fusion influences, along with the Classical, Blues, World and other sources . . . thats why its in the genre "Progressive", its musical Soup. Age of Silence I think just teaters over the edge to Avant Garde, because their is a cohesive melody but just enough "angular/odd-meter" to that melody that in-fact . . . it is Odd. Sol Niger I believe is 4/4, but like Meshauggah its what they do "within" 4/4, but it has a groove, it can be odd-timing - take a left-turn, but it goes back to the 4/4, its following a cohesive line, until we run into those "Atmospheres" that make it seem Avant Garde (does that make any sense, I can go soak my head in a bucket of Pirahnas if you'd like ).Again, Meshuggah's "Catch 33" is VERY different than all their other albums. If it were filtered through one description (like here at MMA) it would be simply "Prog Metal" .But saying to a Genesis Fan, "Hey, I heard you like Progressive Rock, have you heard Meshuggah?" and then you wonder why that friend is slapping you after the 1st 20 seconds of Future Breed Machine! .To each their own, I've heard so many different types of Avant Garde Bands and Math/Tech Metal (Thrash and Death) Bands that I immediately hear the difference, but sometimes it takes some time to figure out . . . What the hell IS THIS music anyway!??? (Keep in mind, the average "Metal Head" will listen to both kinds of this music and say . . . THIS HAS NO SOUL! ITS ALL NOISE!!! ).Thanks for your continued indulgeance in my poop .Yes Wiki is written by Arm Chair enthusiasts like us, but check them out: Spiral Architect (not very cohesive): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Architect - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Architect Age of Silence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Silence - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Silence Special Defects (Sol Niger Within album): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Niger_Within - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Niger_Within ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 4:15pm
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By the way . . . For those who are not familiar, listen to all the Vids/Audio of Fredrik Thordendal's works above and Listen to this example of Allan Holdsworth: Fredrik's "Missing Time": (This is Fredrik "without" the Metal ).I will now leave this topic alone and save your frustrations .------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 2:15am
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^ Fair enough. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree. That being said, Sol Niger Within has far more free jazz influence than any 'standard' math metal release that I've come across, even among Meshuggah's discography. It is notable that when free jazz first became an established genre in the 50s it was also somewhat interchangeably referred to as avant-garde. I'm sure Harry from PA could explain this better than I can (I can't remember if he has an account here or not. I don't think he posts here regularly to say the least). These free jazz elements also appear in established avant-garde metal releases, even with groups as popular as Mike Patton's Mr. Bungle in Fantomas. At this point I probably don't need to go much further to explain where he got it from, since nearly everyone knows about his collaborations with John Zorn. I especially like this video: Now THAT's avant-garde! (not really metal though) ------------- Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want. |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 2:22am
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Fredrik Thordendal! His solo album is great stuff! Been recently digging motW a lot ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 4:06am
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Topofsm . . . Oh yes! Fredrik's album is definately more "Free Jazz" (Fusion) than most Math Metal .But I see it "within" the framework of his type of Math Metal (4/4), keep in mind that Fredrik's big influence is Holdsworth. Holdsworth is a Jazz/Fusion Guitarist who is very experimental, free form, lets his fellow musicians use the "space" and uses alot of "Legato", in other words, he picks the strings with a Pick like other guitarists but he also "plays" the notes with his right hand/fingers on the Frets - to create a "non-picking" sound (Legato). Fredrik does this too, but he also has found a Lead FX that emulates the Legato sound. (I know it well, as I use to have a Korg Pedal Board where I programmed a similar effect). John McLaughlin and Chris Poland (Ohm/Damn the Machine era) also have a similar sound and they are/or definately embrace the Jazz/Fusion-Free Form sound as well .Patton's Projects definately fit in that Free Form Fusion/Metal territory And I canhear Primus doing the same at times. but back to the avante garde . . . ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: kogaionon
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 4:38pm
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brilliant, but the fredrik thordendal album is very hard to find... i tried looking for it in oslo (via a friend), vienna and prague, but with no luck
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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 5:55pm
Hopefully this will help From Thordendals MYspace site (Blog entry): http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=45056367&blogId=263647628 - http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=45056367&blogId=263647628 Seems its at Morgan �grens (Drummer extraordinare) site in his Merch Shop! http://morganagren.com/ - http://morganagren.com/ Good luck and enjoy!!! ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 12:59am
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I ordered it of Morgan Agren's site for ~20 USD without a hassle, so I'd recommend that for sure.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 2:53am
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To be honest, I really can't get into Meshuggah at all after having heard two albums; although I absolutely love Sol Niger Within from Fredrik Thorendal's Special Defects. -------------
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Posted By: Ragnar
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 3:14am
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Can Arcturus be considered Avant-Garde? I would think so. Worst comes to worst, just be apocryphal and call them "Carnival Metal".
 Maybe Abruptum? Although I guess you could call them more "Dark Ambiental", rather than Avant-Garde. Either way, they sound... strange. OK, but strange.
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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 3:27am
Look at some of the past pages many of us think so . . .But listen to Unexpect, Stolen Babies, Diablo Swing Orchestra and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, not only a "Carnival" . . . but a damn freakshow! (Mr. Bungle/Fantomas can be too).. . . Yikes! that Abruptum is pretty scary, its like Doom Metal meets Death Metal/Grindcore with a little Avant Garde for seasoning! By the way ProgKidJoe, what Meshuggah albums did you listen to? Not that I'm here to change your mind or anything, and not that they are Avant Garde (except Catch 33) . . . I seem to be repeating myself here . . . I seem to be repeating myself here . . . I seem to be repeating myself here . . . Can SOMEONE please add more "different" named Avant Garde Bands to check out please! ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 4:05am
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I've only heard Catch 33 and the I EP; I definitely have to give them some more listens/time, although I found it to mostly just be samey sounding riffs repeated on every track -------------
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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 4:54am
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Ahh okay Well look, the "embarressed smilie" means youre humble, thats cool . . .I think most here would agree (I said most -now) that "Destroy Erase Improve" may be the one to help you understand them better, its their most progressive but still heavy as %^&$! Their are more of Fredriks "Holdsworth influenced solos" too, but the thing is about Meshuggah is its all 4/4 but its the weird stuff they do within those parameters, its meant to be "groovy" and aggressive but its not your typical Death Metal or Thrash, its like the most complicated Metallica or Pantera music, mesh them and then add its own style with a bit of Fusion. Get that album and listen to it a few times on headphones . . . but its up to you if you'll like it .But you do like Special Defects so its a possibility you will like that album at-least (maybe their 1st Contradictions Collapse and 2nd None), but I think "I" is brilliant too .Seeing your List of bands you like, I'm surprised youre not into them .Extra Note: For you Special Defects: Sol Niger Within fans . . . NEW ALBUM being worked on! http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=936&PN=1 - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=936&PN=1 ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 9:31pm
Try some drone, like Sunn O))), it might not be technical or especailly eclectic. But it's easily one of the more interesting avant movements in my opinion. Avant-Metal is just something you have to try, you won't enjoy or understand it all, heck I don't. But some styles become rewarding if you let them be. Also, I'd be lying if I said I found Meshuggah easy to listen to, but when I'm in the right mood, the technical aspects of their compositions makes a lot of sense to me. |
Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2010 at 8:39pm
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I think avant metal might be my favorite metal genre. I love metal that can get highly experimental without still losing it's identity as metal. Of course motW is the best example of this. EDIT: It's awesome to see Age of Silence get some recognition around here, they really are excellent, and the thematic material in that album is a very refreshing change of pace.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2010 at 1:54am
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Meshuggah took me years to appreciate and I have been listening to them since the release of their debut album. It was actually not until I had seen them live in on the tour supporting Catch 33 that I was fully convinced. Since then I�ve been quite the fanboy.
About new avant garde names mentioned in the thread Lucas mentioned the Unexpect sounding Ebonylake a while back. If you haven�t checked them out yet I would certainly do so now.
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2010 at 3:38am
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Meshuggah is mood music for me. I cant just listen at any time, also I have to be sitting and really listening. Like Meshuggah while driving, (is fun) but I dont really get the full scope of the music. Great band though! Becoming a big fan of motW Need to try Kayo Dot Also Sunn O))) ............... I get it Though I cant say I enjoy it ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 1:45am
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Pyramids man... |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 2:15am
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I forgot to mention Ephel Duath: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ephel-duath.aspx - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ephel-duath.aspx . ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2010 at 5:06am
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Well hello again to the weird and wacky! Forgive me that I sort-of "spam" . . .In advertising the wonderful Internet Station of PrOgulus.com, I have been given "Keys to the Shop" sort-of speak, to the YOUtube Channel called "ProgulusTV/Progulus4" that was put-up by a fellow listener that goes by "Neoshredder" (who also has a site/Forum for Neo-Classical Metal and Guitar oriented Shred called Neo Classical Metal.org) a couple of years ago. So I have been having a blast putting up Prog Rock and Metal Vidz that correspond with the Bands that are found at the Station. I have also added "Themed" Playlists and one of them is for our truely odd "Avant Garde" .I have been discovering Bands left and right, and the best source for the Metal aspect of the AG are these wonderful compilation Vids called "An Introdution to The Avant Garde Metal". Their are 7 parts so far, and really cool stuff! Also checkout the Bands I have found that are also at the Station. The Direct Link to this Playlist is: http://www.youtube.com/user/Progulus4#grid/user/CC3D71E6F62D855A - http://www.youtube.com/user/Progulus4#grid/user/CC3D71E6F62D855A And PrOgulus4: http://www.youtube.com/user/Progulus4?feature=mhum - http://www.youtube.com/user/Progulus4?feature=mhum Be sure to Thank "S0unDOfCha0S" at YOUtube for his knowledge of the Avant Garde bands, I'm sure he'll appreciate it .http://www.youtube.com/user/S0unDOfCha0S - http://www.youtube.com/user/S0unDOfCha0S ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2010 at 7:31am
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Not familiar with Avant Garde metal tho Diablo Swing Orch was kinda freaky and interesting. Does Meshuggah fit the genre? -------------  GLAM METAL!
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2011 at 7:57pm
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Is the new Unexpect album as good as people have been saying? I'm considering ordering it. |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2011 at 7:58pm
| motW is one of the greatest things to happen in music history. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2011 at 2:17am
I haven�t heard it yet. I�m hoping someone will send me a promo .------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2011 at 11:08pm
The album came today, and it's pretty damn crazy. I need some more listens though to make sense of it. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 1:29pm
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The album can be listened in full here: http://unexpect.bandcamp.com/album/fables-of-the-sleepless-empire" rel="nofollow - http://unexpect.bandcamp.com/album/fables-of-the-sleepless-empire And yeah it is THAT GOOD. |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 8:29pm
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Really enjOying what I hear! "Unexpect" indeed . Thanks for the link, I'll have to find it at my fave Store.------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: Xaxaar
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 4:29pm
You should very well order it; I thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing. ------------- 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 9:07pm
| I really should listen to that some time. |
Posted By: life93
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 11:05pm
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really cool Avant-Garde Black Metal band, sort of reminds me of a black Metal late era Gorguts for some reason. |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 2:44pm
I haven't been able to get into much avant-garde stuff, but I love this album: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/akphaezya--anthology-ii-links-from-the-dead.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/akphaezya--anthology-ii-links-from-the-dead.aspx
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 3:49am
It's funny looking back on this thread after a couple years. I've listened to it dozens of times, and I think Fables of the Sleepless Empire is one of the most incredible metal albums ever made. Unexpect is brilliant. Also, the new Kayo Dot album Hubardo should be something unique. Toby is really excited about it 13 minute sample: http://soundcloud.com/tobydriver/kayo-dot-hubardo-teaser" rel="nofollow - http://soundcloud.com/tobydriver/kayo-dot-hubardo-teaser |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 3:52am
Check out Sikth http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3126" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3126
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 4:01am
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Ah I must mention Igorrr. This album is avant-garde, baroque, electronic glitch metal, and it's truly amazing: Also, with Chickens: |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2013 at 12:53am
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Is anyone following the new band with three people from Sleepytime Gorilla Museum? I don't think they've done much with it yet, but I wonder if they'll release an album
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2013 at 6:22pm
| No, I hadn't been. Thanks for letting me know about them |