I Like Grunge
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Topic: I Like Grunge
Posted By: Balthamel
Subject: I Like Grunge
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 5:33pm
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Grunge is realy a genre thats interest me, so many bands that I want to explore futher but I don't know where to start so much good and creative music (in its time). I saw this documentary (you have proabably seen it), and their was all this bands that I like the sound of, I only have Soundgardens, Superunknown and Badmotorfinger ( I know, i'm slow), but many of the bands have somting interesting, bands like Alice In Chains, Tad, Pearl Jam and Melvins interest me, but their is just something amazing about grunge which I can't understand.... WHAT IS IT. |
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 6:19pm
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Grunge.... I've always wondered whether it's really a pseudo-genre. I think that a lot of the bands that are classified as grunge are musically very different, the genre-defining features lying in the image and, perhaps, attitude (and I think maybe that it was, or is, the attitude that appeals to people). Anyway, I'm not a big fan of grunge (I don't dislike it, though), but being young in the 90s, I was exposed to it quite extensively (especially since the school I went to was this sort of alternative rock kid school where a lot of people were into alt. rock, grunge rock, alt. metal, extreme metal and the like), and I do like Nirvana's "Nevermind", although I don't like their other albums, and the Danish grunge act Boghandle. ------------- 
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 6:25pm
| well, I think it's sort of a mixture of metal and punk atitude metal guitar riffs and heavyness with punk bussiness and in your face sort of behaviour. and a Subcultur in the outpost of US (mainy Seatle and Washington State) but many of the "grunge" bands actualy were Alternative Metal bands, like Soundgarden whom is said to be he first Alternative Metal, Sludge, and Stoner metal band. |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 6:33pm
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I think it's interesting how it completely took over the rock scene and virtually killed off hair metal overnight. I think that there were more factors at play though, but grunge really changed the rock scene into something more "earthy" but also more "shoegazing".
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 6:38pm
| I always wonderd what shoegazing means, watching your shoes (or gazing). |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 6:47pm
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Yeah, and it also refers to the musicians not moving about on stage very much - but maybe this applies more to Brit pop than grunge.
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Posted By: Phonebook Eater
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2010 at 6:18am
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funny, I just reviewed Dirt a few minutes ago. I personally am a huge fan of grunge, always have been. If you are interested in the main albums, here they are: from Alice In Chains: Dirt Jar Of Flies same title From Nirvana: Nevermind In Utero Bleach from Pearl Jam: Ten Vs. Vitalogy No Code Looks like you're fine with Soundgarden. from Silverchair: Frogstomp Freak Show From Screaming Trees: Sweet Oblivion Dust (even though I don't have it) also, check the albums by Temple Of The Dog and by Mother Love Bone. If you're interested in grunge's very first acts, check the bands Green River or Mudhoney  ------------- 
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Posted By: Phonebook Eater
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2010 at 6:36am
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Oh no! I forgot Stone Temple Pilots! I saw them last year in concert, they were great! I recommend you: Core Purple Tiny Music... from the Vatican Gift Shop no. 4 (haven't listened to all of it, but it has some great songs) -------------
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2010 at 7:55am
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Grunge (and bands I associate with it, like RHCP and RATM and Neil Young ) is part of the reason why I returned to the rock world in the early 90's.
That Grunge movement was refreshing at the time when all there waswere disgusting electronic beat-driven pop (>> I was not into these power metal and Thrash Metal stuff) and 92 a banner music year for me... I had not yet discovered the prog renewal.... and I wonder if I would've at all if I hadn't listened to grunge bands
My fave: early Pearl Jam ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones.... 
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2010 at 11:38am
I had my hands full exploring metal and finding a way into prog music at the time, so the grunge movement didn't do much to me. I think I was actually more interested in the alt. rock wave that followed the grunge movement (or which, I guess, the grunge movement was just a part of) without ever abandoning metal. They say that grunge killed metal, but isn't it really the case that people were getting fed up with glam metal, which was the commercially most successful type of metal at the time, so, when an a�ternative (pun intended) appears, people were naturally drawn in that direction. There were a bunch of alt. rock Danish bands that surfaced in the 90s who, had they been from Seattle, may have been considered grunge. -------------
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Sean Trane wrote:Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2010 at 4:59pm
| ohh, and Black Hole Sun by Soundgarden is so special, a Timeless song the guitar riff in the verse is so adictive. one of the best songs ever made IMO. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2010 at 3:51am
It refers, I think, to the musicians looking down at their multitude of effects pedals the whole perfomance. But the only "shoegaze" band I know is My Bloody Valentine, so I might have made that up. I'm OK with grunge, but I think post-grunge is one of the worst subgenres to ever exist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_post-grunge_bands - Just look at these bands. I would shocked if their combined discographies contained even a single tolerable moment.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2010 at 4:49am
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I agree with Timesig that grunge is a kind of pseudo genre. For example I don�t agree with the fact that many consider Alice in Chains a grunge act. One of my favorites from those times though. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Phonebook Eater
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2010 at 6:17am
well Filter isn't that bad. You're pretty much right about the rest. -------------
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2010 at 2:53pm
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Huge fan of the genre myself. Some treats for exploring grunge are as follows...
THIS INCLUDES BOTH BANDS OF THE GRUNGE SCENE ITSELF PLUS OTHER BANDS WHICH MAY APPEAL TO ONE WHO LIKES GRUNGE YET ARE CLASSED ONLY AS 'ALTERNATIVE ROCK'.
Besides the big four of grunge, Nirvana, Pearl Jam (my favourite), Soundgarden and Alice In Chains...
you should try...
THESE (MOSTLY SEATTLE-BASED) GRUNGE BANDS...
Screaming Trees
Mother Love Bone
Dinosaur Jr.
Mudhoney
Gruntruck
Skin Yard
Hammerbox
Candlebox
Green River
Mad Season
Temple Of The Dog
Malfunkshun
Stone Temple Pilots
Tad
My Sister's Machine
BANDS WHICH ARE SOMETIMES GIVEN THE GRUNGE TAG...
Smashing Pumpkins
Blind Melon
Days Of The New
Marcy Playground
The Melvins
Bush
Silverchair
NON-GRUNGE BANDS WHICH YOU MAY LIKE IF YOU LIKE GRUNGE AS THEY HAVE SOME GRUNGY ELEMENTS...
Jane's Addiction (they do have some grungy tendancies)
Rage Against The Machine (angsty and political...can't go wrong there)
Pixies (after all, Kurt did say he wanted to be one of them...)
Radiohead (up till OK Computer they are sufficiently distorted and depressive)
Jeff Buckley (the louder stuff mostly)
Jerry Cantrell (obviously because of AIC)
Mark Lanegan (the man behind Screaming Trees so again you can't go wrong)
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2010 at 3:23pm
Tons of bands I dislike on that list, but I'm a fan of both The Presidents of The United States of America and Silverchair. I grew up on the first 2 Presidents albums and the first 3 Silverchair albums. Young Modern is a cool pop/rock album by Silverchair. There are parts to it that even remind me of mid 70s Genesis. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2010 at 9:14am
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I just noticed that we haven�t got Jerry Cantrell solo here on MMA. Alternative maybe? ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2010 at 9:30am
| Alternative sounds right. I only have Degradation Trip, and it sounds rather similar to AiC. |
Posted By: Phonebook Eater
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2010 at 6:53pm
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Definitely put to Alt metal. I just saw him Friday with AIC. Awesome! -------------
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 1:37am
Yeah that�s the one I have too. Didn�t even realize that he had actually released a solo album in 1998 too ( Boggy Depot). I�ll drop a note in the alternative thread. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 4:11pm
Thanks for the reminder guys, the thought of adding him had crossed my mind earlier but I forgot to do anything about it. He's here now, and when the brainz have done their work I've got a couple of reviews ready  ------------- http://iamthreepeople.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">  <- Click on this!
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 4:15pm
Done  After listening to Degradation Trip a couple of times yesterday I've decided to get the double edition as soon as I run into one. There must be some gems in there. ------------- http://iamthreepeople.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow"> <- Click on this!
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Posted By: progshine
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2010 at 10:56pm
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To be honest I never get the 'Grunge style', like you already said before, so many bands in so many different styles and influences putted on the same ground, I mean, it's quite weird. The good thing is, they really brought some air fresh to 90's music, and to Rock itself. Like punk did back, long time ago with Progressive, for example, kicking some butts and bringing new sounds to the previous rock we all know. And bands like Alice In Chains, Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden (just tomention the really known ones) are classics, like a Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden (I think you can understand me ).For me the band that really caught my attention's Alice In Chains, profound, sad, heavy, melancholic all together. And thumbs up for Pearl Jam, for keep their music live all through this years, their last 2 albuns are really good Rock albuns (Backspacer and Pearl Jam). Sorry if I moved out a little bit of the initial purpose
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 5:13am
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Backspacer actually might be my favourite Pearl Jam album, though I've only heard about a half of them properly. ------------- http://iamthreepeople.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow"> <- Click on this!
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Posted By: progshine
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 11:40am
Backspacer was a really nice surprise to me, I wasn't expecting a good record  But I like, for example, Riot Act, an album most don't like, so I shouldn't be so surprised :) ------------- Testing 1...2...3.. RAY, IT'S NOT WORKING! www.progshine.net Your resource of Prog Rock with weekly Podcasts, reviews, interviews and many more.
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 4:56pm
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I saw Alice in Chains at the Roskilde festival last weak and they were great, love their long drooning stoner sound. realy great band.
and saw Them Crooked Vultures whom have post-grunge sound with Dave Grohl on the kits realy impressive.
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Posted By: progshine
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 10:41pm
Here's a good discussion I think, what do you guys think about Them Crooked Vultures? I mean, I like the record, but it didn't let that 'I want more' taste. In the end I tried to listen a second time, but didn't get thru the entire album, and I really like Dave Grohl's stuff! ------------- Testing 1...2...3.. RAY, IT'S NOT WORKING! www.progshine.net Your resource of Prog Rock with weekly Podcasts, reviews, interviews and many more.
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2010 at 2:10am
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I don't have the album but they literly were cooking live, John Paul Jones was amazing to se live, almost touching finally he gets the spotlight he deservs, Dave Grohl was like a living avalanche on the drums he did not miss one puinch and every litle fill was godsend.
Josh Homme sang realy greate I like hes voice, calm and warm and powerfull. hes guitarplaying is also powerfull.
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Posted By: progshine
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2010 at 2:41am
Maybe I should give another spin for the record?  ------------- Testing 1...2...3.. RAY, IT'S NOT WORKING! www.progshine.net Your resource of Prog Rock with weekly Podcasts, reviews, interviews and many more.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 2:58pm
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I guess this is an appropriate spot to ask this. I'm currently listening to Ten by Pearl Jam. It's the only album I've heard of theirs. I'm not even sure if I can remember hearing a song of theirs not on Ten (probably have though). What are some other great songs or albums by Pearl Jam? |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 3:48pm
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VS is a good album. The first 3 songs are probably the best known: Go, Animal, and Daughter. Dissident and Elderly Woman Behind the Counter are both good songs too. I haven't listened to it in awhile, so there are probably others, but those are the ones that I remember. ------------- 
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Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 3:50pm
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Speaking of Pearl Jam, I got to ask something too (sorry, heh!). Svarti Loghin (black metuhhl) is said to use Pearl Jam -like vocals on the newest album, here's a clip: I'm just interested as a total outsider to grunge / Pearl Jam, that are the Pearl Jam influences how clear? It would be interesting to hear a comment from someone who is not so much into black metal like other people I've seen talking about this album. This is nothing important, just something I'm curious about, heh. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 3:52pm
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Vitalogy has Spin The Black Circle, Tremor Christ, Nothingman, and Corduroy.
I have most of the rest of their albums and there are some pretty good songs scattered throughout but I haven't listened to them in quite awhile so can't really recommend anything specific. Binaural was pretty good, and actually I really enjoyed Backspacer when it came out. I listened to it a number of times, but not recently. Hmmm.. sounds like my next listen should be Backspacer.
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 4:26pm
 a realy good song I must say, and yes it sounds like a Pearl Jam song and the singer sounds like Eddie Vedder so yes. I like Black Metal but not all its to gloomy for me and what i have heard lacks a litle neuance, I am more of the kinde who like the more comercial black metal, symphonic and black metal crossed over to death metal,
Dimmu Borgir is rudimentary band and Puritania are on of the greatest metal songs ever.
Vreid is cool, Gorgoroth are okey, nice live, but im not huge fan
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 4:45pm
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The guitar playing resembles Pearl Jam. The clean vocals at the beginning do remind me of Eddie Vedder in early Pearl Jam. The ones at the end reminded me more of Temple of the Dog, which was also a project that Eddie sang on. -------------
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 4:48pm
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Not sure if this is the best example, but this song kind of came to mind while listening to the Svarti Loghin song.
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Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 4:49pm
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Thanks guys! So all the black metal fanatics talking about this album weren't wrong with the Pearl Jam connection, heh. Edit: I'll check out that video now. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 5:58pm
| I have three Pearl Jam albums: Ten (a masterpiece), Yield (which I also like a lot), and Riot Act (somewhat disappointing). Personally, I think Ten is way better than Nevermind, but I know many people would disagree with me. |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 10:25pm
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I own Ten, VS, Binaural, Pearl Jam and Backspacer. Ten is quite brilliant, VS great in places but as a whole somewhat unsatisfying (Go and Rearviewmirror are my favourites). I've listened to Binaural only a couple of times and haven't really gotten anything from it, but the self titled is a really good rock album. Strong material with no big downhills or uphills. Backspacer was a massive surprise, and a positive one. Good straight ahead rocking, a couple of really beautiful songs (influenced by Eddie Vedder's soundtrack to the movie Into the Wild, I guess) and some calmer rockers, all in perfect balance on an album of perfect length. Ranking at the moment: 1. Backspacer 2. Ten 3. Pearl Jam 4. VS 5. Binaural ------------- http://iamthreepeople.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow"> <- Click on this!
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Posted By: progshine
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 10:33pm
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I have a lot of Pearl Jam albuns, and if you like a list (at least my list), my top5: 1-Vs (1993) 2-Ten (1991) 3-Pearl Jam (2006) 4-Riot Act (2002) 5-Backspacer (2009) [not because is the 'worst' of all 5, but because I'm getting used to it] ------------- Testing 1...2...3.. RAY, IT'S NOT WORKING! www.progshine.net Your resource of Prog Rock with weekly Podcasts, reviews, interviews and many more.
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 10:28am
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Yeah! a Pearl Jam discussion! I have all thier albums so far except for the new extended version of Ten that came out last year. Here's my top five...
1. Ten.
2. Vs.
3. Binaural.
4. Backspacer
5. Riot Act
My least favourite is No Code, the songs on it are amazing but the production quality is absolutely dire, even by grunge standards.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2014 at 5:15pm
 He was the president of the US------------- "Before you see the light you must die!!!!!!!!!!" - Slayer "Today is born the seventh one, born of woman, the seventh son" - Steve Harris |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2015 at 9:11pm
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^ I would also include The U-Men and Love Battery in that list
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Posted By: Psydye
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2015 at 7:02pm
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My mom's a huge fan of STP! I myself had a(very short) stint w/ Days of the New for a while..It's been some time! |
Posted By: Vixen Erotica
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2016 at 3:07pm
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I love grunge!! was popular when I was in high school in the early 1990's....I think it is very similar to metal in general cause it is so hard...My favorite grunge bands are: Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Stone Temple Pilots...is excellent music!! ------------- moody metal maiden |