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Topic: How did you get into metal?Posted By: Pekka
Subject: How did you get into metal?
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 6:06am
The basic question of every music related forum, share us your life story in metal
I don't have time to get to it now myself, but let's get the ball rolling people
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Replies: Posted By: Sleepwalker
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 6:14am
I'm not sure, but I believe it was Tool that got me into Metal.
I used to really hate Metal. I couldn't even stand the louder Porcupine Tree parts!
Someone in my band (that rehearsed 2 times in a year) wanted to do a cover of Schism, so I checked that song out and I loved it. I hired a copy of Lateralus in my local library and ripped it onto my Ipod when I went on a holiday to France for two weeks. Despite the Ipod having a rubbish sound, I listened to the album over 60 times those two weeks (though mostly I didn't play the entire album).
When I got back home I immediately ordered �nima and later got a real copy of Lateralus and 10,000 Days as well.
Posted By: DeathOfSeasons
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 6:24am
Well it began with the first band I considered my favourite band, Blink-182. From there I moved onto Punk Rock like Anti-Flag and such. I then discovered modern "tough guy" Hardcore Punk like Terror and Walls of Jericho. I then stumbled into Melodic Metalcore like Bullet For My Valentine, Atreyu and stuff like that. I didn't make much progress until someone recommended System of a Down. I loved them and someone else said Slipknot play similar music. I checked out Slipknot and I couldn't believe how heavy they were (obviously I don't feel that way now). Anyway, I started looking for heavier stuff so I purchased Reek of Putrefaction by Carcass, Bloodthirst by Cannibal Corpse and Covenant by Morbid Angel. Those three albums got me into the more extreme side of Metal.
I don't listen to any Nu Metal or Alternative Metal (besides Faith No More and System of a Down) anymore.
Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 6:32am
well I must admit it was Dream Theater with Images and Words which was my first real encounter with metal which made me a fan, then i bought some other prog metal acts like Treshold, Queensryche, A.C.Tmy collection of ether band is not huge but these are my fundation, futher on i listen to some Mastodon and they are now my favourite metal band, they guided me to the more brutal side of metal, Gojira, Opeth, Meshuggah, Dimmu Borgir, Vreid, Isis, Cynic, Atheist hopefulli i will find more metal
Im not to found of power metal and chees but i like some Masterplan they are cool, and i like Megadeath, Pantera, Lamb of God, Defrones, Korn, some Rammstien
Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 6:46am
It was when my uncle gave me his copy of Led Zep II......
Posted By: dean
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 8:15am
Same answer as for Prog: I grew up with it, it grew up with me.
I've been listening to Heavy Rock since The Book Of Taliesyn and Paranoid (never really got into Led Zepp though) - I still haven't worked out what The Old Wave Of British Heavy Metal was but followed the NWOBHM through the late 70s and 80s - however the standout band for me at that time was not NWOBHM, but more akin to Post-Punk: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/head-of-david.aspx - Head Of David . Skipped a bit during the hey-day of thrash and speed metal (liked it, but it wasn't my "first love"). Rediscovered Metal in the 90s through British Doom bands like Paradise Lost, Anathema, Cathedral, My Dying Bride as they morphed into Gothic Metal. (I also developed an inexplicable and incongruously fanatical devotion to Savatage at the same time, though I was never a fan of that genre until later). From the Peaceville three I went on to bands from Misanthrope records, Candlelight and Spinefarm and so onto Black Metal, Symphonic Black Metal (Dummu & Craddle) and every flavour of Gothic Metal I could find.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 8:39am
I first got really into music through Led Zeppelin and The Beatles. When I was around 9 years old, those two bands shaped my life. I was particularly a fan of Abbey Road, Revolver, and Sgt. Pepper's from The Beatles, and Led Zeppelin I and IV from Led Zeppelin.
Shortly after I found my love for prog rock. I got interested in the genre when I first heard ...And Then There Were Three by Genesis. When my dad gave me a copy of Selling England By The Pound, my life really changed. I became an absolute Gabriel-era Genesis fanatic. I would listen to The Lamb on a once-a-day basis, I would spend days trying to figure out how to play all of Tony Banks' solos, and I would listen to their other albums any time I had 45 minutes to burn.
After I discovered Genesis, my love of music in general really began (especially prog rock). I soon got into Yes, Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings, Marillion, Pink Floyd, Transatlantic, IQ, etc.... At this point I also began to get into bands like Metallica and Iron Maiden. That is when my love for prog metal began.
I first got into prog metal by the Score DVD by Dream Theater. My father was in the living room watching it, and soon I became quite the DT fan. I then became a fan of other prog metal bands like Pain of Salvation, Fates Warning, Savatage, Queensr�che, etc... Soon after I discovered Opeth, which opened the door to other progressive death metal acts. I also began to love Edge of Sanity and Death at this time. Then I began to investigate all types of extreme metal, with death metal, doom metal, and thrash metal being my favorite extreme metal genres.
So that is my journey of metal....
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 9:04am
To be perfectly honest, I don't remember when it happened exactly, though it was some time in the early Eighties. I grew up with Italian music, then discovered prog at an early age, but it wasn't until I was 20 or so that I discovered the harder edge of things - and, quite inexplicably, I got straight into it. By the mid-Eighties, I was a big metalhead, and bought mostly metal albums (which are still lying somewhere in the attic of my former home in Rome). I even had my own HM radio show for a couple of years - it was called "Heavy Duty" (like the Judas Priest song), and drew both approval and criticism from fellow HM fans (especially since I am a woman).
Unfortunately, when in 1987 I moved to another town because of work, I had to stop buying both albums and music magazines (I used to buy every issue of Kerrang! at the time), and got disconnected from the music world for a number of years. Thankfully, my love of music never died, and here I am once again!
Posted By: NJCat_11
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 12:10pm
I started taking guitar lessons when I was 12 years old, and it just so happened that my guitar teacher at that time was a huge Judas Priest fan. Before that, I just listened to the crap on MTV. I don't know where I'd be today if I hadn't met him. Unfortunately for me though, he left the music store I take lessons at to become a roadie. Great guy.
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Posted By: Metalbaswee
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 12:14pm
I really, evolved into it. First i was listening to some Van Halen, Red Hot Chili Peppers etc. Then i started to like the harder stuff like Metallica and Slayer. Then i got myself into all sorts off Metal. That took me about 2 years. First real metal song i ever heard was Metal Militia. Hetfield's riffing just blew me away!
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 3:02pm
Pink Floyd - Porcupine Tree - Dream Theater - Opeth.
Like that.
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 3:19pm
Some of the first bands that got me into metal were Korn, Metallica, Deftones, and I even went through a brief Limp Bizkit phase (looking back though, I'll still argue their first 2 albums have their moments). The first album that totally blew me away in the genre was Master of Puppets. It was from Metallica most of all that helped shaped my taste in metal. They are the only one of the above mentioned bands that I can still listen to on a regular basis.
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 3:21pm
Black Sabbath originally and with the current stuff since about 1995 I hear a lot at my sons or through one of my daughters and being extreme does not worry me,it is those ones who do most of the boundary pushing. Not a big fan of Symphonic, I prefer just a band
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 3:27pm
I heard strange sounds coming from my older brothers room. Twisted Sister and Bon Jovi. Soon Iron Maiden, Slayer, Metallica, Voivod and Kreator. From there it�s been one long journey through genres.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 3:29pm
Sleepwalker wrote:
I'm not sure, but I believe it was Tool that got me into Metal....
I didn't so much get into metal as metal got into me. That's what I get for sitting on a tool. Butt seriously....
As a young child my oldest brother exposed me to Iron Butterfly. "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" is what set the old metal ball rolling for me, I'd say. After that it was Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Deep Purple Led Zeppelin and AC/DC that also helped pave the way -- then Judas Priest. I'm still not so much one for modern metal -- a lot of it seems more pretentious, in a way, and less fun these days (the blues influence was lost ina lot of it, and I like that bluesy rock and roll kind of heavy metal). I'm more of a pre NWoBHM kind of guy.
I must admit that I'm not the hardest core metal guy around, though some people might be surprised how hardcore I am in other ways, but I dig hard rock and roll and a fair amount of modern metal and would like to discover lots of metal to bang by.
Metal isn't just music; it's a way of life -- heavy booze, heavy banging, and heavy metal, who could really ask for anything more? I'm not so much into the annihilation thing, though 'tis better to bang out than to burn out I say.
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 11:57am
Raff wrote:
I even had my own HM radio show for a couple of years - it was called "Heavy Duty" (like the Judas Priest song), and drew both approval and criticism from fellow HM fans (especially since I am a woman).
Wow, that's so cool
Stooge wrote:
I even went through a brief Limp Bizkit phase (looking back though, I'll still argue their first 2 albums have their moments).
I did the same around their third album, and I do still think there's some really good stuff in there, especially the guitar department. Around the same time I tried out Korn and Papa Roach, and while I enjoyed them a lot, it just didn't last that long and I ended up selling the albums I had from them. Good stuff on first listens, but wears out very fast.
What had happened before was hearing Metallica and Alice Cooper at my day care place at the ripe age of six, I particularly well remember learning what Kill 'Em All means in Finnish (that was somehow scary, confusing, impressive and cool) and really enjoying Alice Cooper's Time to Kill. I look up at that song as my first favourite song ever. I lost touch of music for some years after that and then returned to rock with Green Day and the Offspring before finding Metallica again, and soon after Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath.
Then along the years came System of a Down, Tool and Dream Theater and apart from the aforementioned Metallica and Maiden and newer discoveries Slayer and Testament I kind of lost interest in thrash and the more traditional kind of metal. The new bands I found from time to time were somehow more special, like Swallow the Sun, S�lstafir, Opeth, Mastodon and Celtic Frost.
Just recently I've started to dig deeper into the Metallica/Maiden area starting with Megadeth and Judas Priest and at the same time taken it into new weird extremes with Kayo Dot. A while ago I thought I'd pretty much heard all metal there is to like, but now I'm sure there's lots of good stuff out there I just don't know about...
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 1:26pm
I was brought up with prog, trad. metal, glam metal, AOR and elements of blues rock and folk rock . My love of metal was inevitable, mostly because of Black Sabbath, after which I got into Ozzy's solo stuff. AC/DC, Van Halen, Motley Crue and UFO also played a big part in the beginnings of my 'metal years' as I call them. I eventually thirsted for something a little heavier and added thrash to my list of likes with Megadeth as my favoured band of the genre. I also ran into grunge a little later which provided me with such gems as Gruntruck and Alice In Chains. Over time I have also took a little liking to some prog metal and doom metal.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 5:00pm
The doctor prescribed some Magnesium and Calcium, but I mixed up the recipients and...
Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 8:05pm
Firstly I got in Rock music in general and worked my way up to different genres after I got bored with Pop.
Thankfully I was put off by pop and still am by the time I got to my teens.
But it was around school a friend of minw introduced me Metallica, this helped me to discover a more heavier and faster side to rock , just like the Pink Floyd did with me to Prog and Rock in general.
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 7:09am
Gradually, really...
I started with The Sweet, but like just about everyone else, didn't realise that they were a formative heavy metal band (don't tell me they were Glam, I'm talking about the Music, not the look!). I saw them on Top of the Pops back in 1974, following ABBA, Gary Glitter, Slade and Mud - and they blew the place apart.
The first song from "Fanny Adams" should tell you all you need to know -" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW6zZAigmMo - Set Me Free ". It's up there with Queen's " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn9E-HpTi4E - Stone Cold Crazy " of the same year.
Being a 10 year-old kid, this was my only exposure to metal music, and it wasn't until I saw the Sex Pistol's notorious interview with Bill Grundy, and heard the power of "Anarchy in the UK" that I started listening to the music charts regularly (had to start somewhere), then got into Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Motorhead, who were releasing singles at the time.
From friends at school I borrowed Black Sabbath, Wishbone Ash and Blue Oyster Cult records, but my induction really began when I bought a copy of music rag Smash Hits (it had a feature on the Sex Pistols...), and read a review of AC/DC's "Highway to Hell".
They hated it and gave it 3/10, but it was their description featuring mentions of piledrivers and sledgehammers that made me really curious - I'd read similar descriptions of The Skids' " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPoaKbcGktQ - Into The Valley ", and loved that song for the growly guitars and bass, despite its mid-tempo chug. To be honest, I did prefer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4s8y_KSVag - The Damned for their energy and speed, but what the hell - it was that review that made me buy "Highway to Hell" and become a confirmed metal head.
When Metallica appeared 4 years later, I joined a thrash metal band. The guitarist, Jay, is now in a band with Daniel P Carter, the Friday Rock Show DJ on Radio One, called http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7fP01PsjqA - Hexes .
Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 6:32pm
Pretty gradually for me too...
When I was younger, I listened to mostly alt. rock. Guitar Hero got me to listen to Metallica and Megadeth, and I slowly picked up more thrashy stuff from that. After that, I discovered Dream Theater, and my path to proggy metal was set.
Posted By: kshskang
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 11:25pm
Back in middle school, I discovered classic rock through bands such as Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and began to learn how to play guitar.
I researched general rock music of the past through the Internet and eventually came across Megadeth, who became the first undeniably metal band I started listening to (in contrast to acts such as Zeppelin and Black Sabbath). Soon, I discovered progressive rock/metal through of course, Dream Theater and became more drawn to the more technical side of music as I was (and still is!) an aspiring guitar player. At first, I had an aversion to death metal and most music employing extreme vocals because I had the false impression that most bands under those categories were satanic and immoral. However, I discovered Necrophagist near the end of eighth grade and couldn't help but be fascinated by the intricate guitar playing. Strangely enough, Necrophagist was my gateway drug into the realm of death metal.
Today, I generally embrace metal as a whole. I still do not really enjoy listening to -core and nu-metal but I will always respect the genres and not simply dismiss bands belong to those sub-genres for belonging to them.
\m/ Annihilate people
Posted By: Sleeper
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 10:41am
Same way I got into prog really, a friend lent me his copies of Dream Theaters Images and Words and Scenes From a Memory and Symphony X's V: The New Mythology Suite and The Divine Wings of Tragedy. From there I've developed a taste for all kinds of metal that can remotely be labelled as progressive and have even started moving into other styles of metal now.
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 11:47am
From progressive metal. I was raised on progressive rock, blues and classical music. When I discovered prog metal, as time passed, I wanted heavier bands than DT and Symphony x. Then I discovered Death and, subsequently, death metal. Love at first sight.
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Posted By: Waiting
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 2:46pm
While I've been a pretty avid music lover since I was ten years old, for one reason or the other I always craved more aggressive stuff with more distortion. I started with Floyd, then Zeppelin, Then Yes (kind of a step backwards), the Porcupine tree, until I found Dream Theater. To be honest I never clicked with their music though. After visiting prog archives for the first time, I went and bought Opeth's Ghost Reveries, and the first extreme metal song I ever heard was Ghost of Perdition. Keep in mind I didnt know screaming or growling existed until this point, so those of you who know the song can probably imagine the shock I was in.
Four years later, metal is my favorite type of music. My favorite genre is post metal, followed by black and death metal. Cult of Luna is my favorite group, and I cant recommend their album "Somewhere along the Highway" enough. A masterpiece to rate all other masterpices against.
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 4:30am
To answer the question, I'm not sure I did. This is precisely why I'm here though. I do like the odd metal band every know and then, but I've never fully embraced the genre. Having said that, I fear Pekka (with the help of this site) will make a convert out of me soon enough! We'll see...
Posted By: Sleeper
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 7:00am
Hey Jimbo, love the avatar, Oldboy is such a great film and I love that sceen in particular.
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 7:59am
Sleeper wrote:
Oldboy is such a great film and I love that sceen in particular.
Seconded. Amazing film, but the trilogy is pretty good though, if you like action/drama films and can cope with all that "kill yourself" culture of the far east.
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Posted By: Harry
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 10:44pm
I got Quake II back in 1998. It had some rockin' metal on the CD soundtrack by that Sonic Mayhem dude. I then heard Iron Maiden when I got Carmageddon II : Carpocalypse Now back in 2000 and thought "Damn this band is pretty cool". I'd say the whole "And then the rest is history" thing, but it's so cliche and goddamn it, I managed to say it anyway, argh
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 10:56pm
I started at alternative and I guess I was just gradually more drawn to heavier and heavier music. First Blink 182, then Green Day, then I Am Ghost, then Nine Inch Nails, so I guess I'd been interested in darker music, but I've always had metal friends who listened to stuff that was too much for me to handle, even though I loved listening to it and seeing the looks of disgust of those who were hearing it. Then I went to Warped Tour and I saw Killswitch, and I bought my first metal CD, "As Daylight Dies". At that point I was also listening to extreme metal bands on YouTube, and thinking it was pretty badass. From there I've just progressed and I listen to a diverse mix I think.
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Posted By: Kimba Snaps
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 11:47pm
Well, for me - I had little to no say in the matter. Since I was a Tin Lid my Dad has always played his music on full blast - classics such as Iggy Pop and the Stooges to The Beatles to Black Sabbath to Sisters of Mercy and so on. While other classmates were singing songs from the latest Disney classic, me and my sister and older brother were learning the lyrics to the Rolling Stones.
As I got older, my brother started playing the guitar, then the bass. He formed local metal bands such as Blandis, Delucid and the brilliant Humanizerr. By this stage, my brother asked if I wanted to learn how to do lighting for his band/s. Of course, I took up this opportunity and was fortunate enough to travel the entire East Coast of Australia with my brother and be there to do lighting at such gigs as "Hellfest" in Brisvegas.
I am so grateful to be a part of such a music orientated family, if it wasn't for my Dad introducing me to his brilliant range of music and if it wasn't for my brother taking me to and from his gigs, I definately would not be the person I am today.
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 4:16am
I went fishing with a friend of mine's older brother. He'd brought a boom box and one tape: "Somewhere in Time" by Iron Maiden. I didn't catch any fish that day, but I guess I did get caught myself. I certainly was hooked on metal from that day on.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 10:55am
^It wouldn�t be near 2800 now would it? I used to have a friend who loved fishing and was quite the Maiden fan.
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Posted By: coorpz
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 1:06pm
I got into it because my dad was into it and that's all he would play when he used to pick me up from elementary school.
Posted By: Citizen Erased
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 1:41pm
System of a Down were my first gateway to metal. There's something incredibly offbeat and catchy about them that you just had to love. I got into them after a few mates of mine sort of introduced me to metal at about 12/13. They were into bands like Korn etc as well who I couldn't get into.
Years later I just sorta stumbled into prog metal really through Porcupine Tree. They led to Opeth, Katatonia and so on. And I explored extreme metal genres from there.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 5:07am
If my first albums bought were prog (DSOTM, Crime of the Century and SEBTP were my first three), all bought in 74, in my first 20 stood: In Rock, Led Zep IV, Paranoid, Argus and a few more hard-rocking bands, all leading me to early HM >>> I was a jeans-claden youth with leather-coat and boots/running shoes and long hair, but I never cared to sow badges or patches on my jacket - basically I'm still dressed that way today)
Later a few more albums came to me as pure classics: Sad Wings, Van Halen's first, Rainbow Rising, Iron Maiden (debut), Anvil's debut, etc... >>> some of these became transparent from overplaying them
but around the end of the 70's, I started discovering via Santana some of those wild Jazz-rock albums and my inter'est shifted, first to jazz-rock (79-83), then to jazz (hence with nickname of Trane for John Coltrane) starting in 83 .... which lead me to abandon metal more or less abruptly >>> this was a natural thing, since I didn't like much of the newer bands and currents and the older band's new sound started irritating me. Then of course came the Glam/hair metal era where I became embarrassed to even mention I liked some metal music....
Although I'm into prog still nowadays, the progmetal groups don't really appeal to me, if you'll except Tool, Mars Volta (not really metyal, I know), some Opeth and very few more . I still love a loud rock band ala RATM or RHCP, though
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 5:36am
UMUR wrote:
^It wouldn�t be near 2800 now would it? I used to have a friend who loved fishing and was quite the Maiden fan.
No, it was in 5000 in the canal by the power plant. It was probably forthe best that we didn't catch anything - the fish are probably all mutated anyway ;-)
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Posted By: coorpz
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 9:23am
I never understood the hype surrounding Tool, though I don't hate them, I just think they are over rated as hell. Aenima was good, but 10,000 days and Lateralus are like sleep inducing tranquilizers. Even in the day time if I listen to them I will yawn. Again, I don't think it's bad but it's just boring!
I appreciate people stepping out of their boundaries. I mean, as the previous poster said, he likes loud music like RATM which I have no problem with. But I feel my foray into like "dark" and "oppressive" and all that kinda metal is done. Also I don't like those bands that try way too hard to incorporate stuff into their songs to sound edgy and experimental(and not in a good way); Unexpect...Ulver...Arcturus
Though I can say I don't listen to exclusive metal anymore I still enjoy the trip once in a while and I have been thoroughly impressed thus far with 666 International. It's so obnoxious yet intriguing, my head is literally ready to explode.
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 9:39am
Time Signature wrote:
UMUR wrote:
^It wouldn�t be near 2800 now would it? I used to have a friend who loved fishing and was quite the Maiden fan.
No, it was in 5000 in the canal by the power plant. It was probably forthe best that we didn't catch anything - the fish are probably all mutated anyway ;-)
Ok wrong island
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Posted By: EM Hearst
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 12:52pm
i got into metal from my dad's record collection as a kid. he had tons of albums from black sabbath, judas priest, and motorhead, plus iron maiden's "killers" lp and ozzy's first two albums, along with a lot of 'almost-metal' like rainbow, deep purple, blue oyster cult, ac-dc, zeppelin, u.f.o., scorpions, kiss, and on and on....
later on in the 80's my dad introduced me to anthrax, metallica, megadeth, exodus and other thrash metal... and i eventually discovered King Diamond/Mercyful Fate and Slayer on my own, which both seemed like a step beyond; more extreme and dark, which suited my tastes perfectly... even at that young age. it just kept progressing from there...
it was the black sabbath albums that really stood out and captivated me as a child, cuz it was so dark and had this evil horror movie-feel that i loved when i was a kid... to this day they are my favorite band.
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Posted By: mosefus
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 11:13pm
DeathOfSeasons wrote:
Well it began with the first band I considered my favourite band, Blink-182. From there I moved onto Punk Rock like Anti-Flag and such. I then discovered modern "tough guy" Hardcore Punk like Terror and Walls of Jericho. I then stumbled into Melodic Metalcore like Bullet For My Valentine, Atreyu and stuff like that. I didn't make much progress until someone recommended System of a Down. I loved them and someone else said Slipknot play similar music. I checked out Slipknot and I couldn't believe how heavy they were (obviously I don't feel that way now). Anyway, I started looking for heavier stuff so I purchased Reek of Putrefaction by Carcass, Bloodthirst by Cannibal Corpse and Covenant by Morbid Angel. Those three albums got me into the more extreme side of Metal.
I don't listen to any Nu Metal or Alternative Metal (besides Faith No More and System of a Down) anymore.
That's a great bio, though I am always puzzled when people feel the need to apologise for thinking of Slipknot as heavy. Slipknot are heavy. They are heavy as thunder. Whether you think they are any good is a different matter - I tend not to care either way - but their 'heaviness' is not up for question, surely?
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 5:15am
DeathOfSeasons wrote:
I don't listen to any Nu Metal or Alternative Metal (besides Faith No More and System of a Down) anymore.
I usually don't lose interest in the music I listened to in the early days. I still enjoy listening to "I wanna Rock" and "We're not gonna take it" and AC/DC and Maiden (still my fave band of all time) and "Hysteria", "Paranoia" and even "Adrenalize" by Def Leppard and "The Real Thing" by Faith No More. I do not, however, appreciate Skid Row's "Slave to the Gind" now like I did as a kid. I listened to it recently for the first time in many years, and I was really disappointed. There were four tracks that I still think are brilliant, but the rest just didn't do it for me anymore, I though it was stupid and immature (the snob that I am). The same thing happened with GnR's "Appetite for Destruction" - I found the lyrics stupid and wholly uninspiring, but I also found that I still totally love the music on the album. I just have to ignore the lyrics. There are a couple of cases like that, but these are exceptions, as I normally don't stop listening to a type of music once I get into it. That's why I find myself listening to Def Leppard one moment and to Napalm Death the next ;-)
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Posted By: coorpz
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 9:30am
mosefus wrote:
Slipknot are heavy. They are heavy as thunder. Whether you think they are any good is a different matter - I tend not to care either way - but their 'heaviness' is not up for question, surely?
Definitely not. I, unlike most people, won't go by the fact a band is 'hated' in some circles and outright disassociate them with anything that relays your version of 'cool music'. It should be noted Slipknot is a very aggressive band, they blend heaviness with aggressiveness with melodic moments. I don't hate them by any means, in fact I like Subliminal Verses. I don't care what people think of what I listen to, I even listen to Tom frickin' Petty. But to reiterate, their heaviness is not in question, it's their rep that makes people disassociate them with heavy, to more angst ridden poser trash, which is what they have pretty much garnered in the (what I like to call) 'internet music world'.
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 9:40am
Oh boy, it's been a while...
1984, I was 10 years old, and after an older friend introduced me to Iron Maiden and Metallica (among others, the guy was a real metal freak at 13 years of age), Ride the Lightning came out. It was the first record I bought with my own money. Been hooked on metal ever since, and still hooked today, at 35 years of age.
Posted By: mosefus
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 2:27pm
For me it was Queen really got me started down the road to listening to heavy metal proper. I was about 12 when I bought their A Kind of Magic album and loved it, especially the harder tracks (Gimme the Prize) or the tunes with more of the epic about them (One Vision, Princes of the Universe). I told this to my elder sisters boyfriend at the time, and he lent me Number of the Beast, Master of Puppets and Reign in Blood and the rest, as they say, is history.
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 4:58am
Well . . .
Preface:
NecronCommander wrote:
When I was younger, I listened to mostly
alt. rock. Guitar Hero got me to listen to Metallica and Megadeth, and
I slowly picked up more thrashy stuff from that.
After that, I discovered Dream Theater, and my path to proggy metal was set.
You Kids!(Get off my Lawn!).
It truely amazes me to see comments like "My Father listened to..." or "Guitar Hero got me into..." and
for me "those" Bands are relatively young, and I realize a few things,
I'm an Old Fart
and where did I go wrong? I am probably older than most of those
Fathers, and I have no kids and not much of a life. I guess
because I'm not your average Headbanger, I never had a thing for booze,
just the smell of Pot gives me a headache, I dont talk to people like
an [%&*@] and I look waaaaaay younger than my age.
I love wearing Long Sleeve
Death/Thrash/Prog Rock-Metal Shirts on occasion and the length of my
hair has grown under my shoulder blades only within the past 5 years or
so (and 1st time in my life I'm happy with my hair) with its few
threads of white (My Father and Grandfathers died with full heads of hair, so I'm blessed with that) .
And I dont go into the Slam Pits (Yes you youngins, thats right! we
folk back'in dem days called them Slam Pits! Moshing wuz when da' music
slowed down and 'evryone started
goin' 'round in a circle before slamin' agin'! Woo Hoo!), I go to as
many
Club Shows and Concerts as I can when I can afford it, and I still get
carded. . . . I'm 46 I've actually been around for the "Births" of Metal Sub-genres.
. . . thats freakin' scary.
Every memory I have can be a Push-pin brought on by a Song in Metal, a
time and place I was, what I was thinking, a smell, a taste, a terrible
momment, an embarrasing thing I said, the wonder of something
new, a transition in life . . . my life.
Time for a LONG read
Story time! So forgive, get your fave brew (or whatever), sit back and hopefully you wont fall asleep .
All your stories are your own and I am enjoying the read . And its great that a younger generation is finding outlits to discover Heavy Metal.
But I hope you don't mind, please indulge me while I tell my story and
thank you, even if you are bored out of your mind (and forgive some of
my "opinions").
" . . . MY Opinion is just a Point of View, and YOUR position, is the otherside"
- Fates Warning
Music, Rock, Metal, Prog, LIFE.
Logan wrote:
Metal isn't just music; it's a way of life -- heavy
booze, heavy banging, and heavy metal, who could really ask for
anything more? I'm not so much into the annihilation thing, though 'tis
better to bang out than to burn out I say.
I'm a picky sort, and I sometimes "think too much", there are certain
citeria of what appeals to me, but at the same time I have such a love
for a variety of music, that it can be hard reading other peoples views
that seem to come from only one side. And "Heavy Metal" seems to be the
epitome of that unfortunately.
I NEVER
understood the "Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll" thing, I've only seen it
destroy my Heroes, and lives throughout my life, from people I knew or
stories I read or made the headlines.
Pete Townsend once said, "To you they were your heroes, but these were my Friends!". It must be hard to see your peers make bad choices and lose them .
The Sex part, I
figured... I'll watch Porn , or experience the real thing. Though Metal should have NO
bounderies AT ALL, no rules. I had my own ideas what appealed to me.
Sure the occasional Sex inuendos are hard to avoid, but what really
mattered to me was the gift of playing their instruments to the highest
degree . . . period. Later, I would identify with the lyrics and would read and learn it all word for word.
I hated the sloppy, or the "fits in a round hole" or this is whats
in.
I was in for the Guitarists, the Tone, The Execution, The
Creativity, Originality. But as long as you did it with a heart
and soul, you believed in it, then it would shine through to the music.
Seeds of Distortion (and 8-Tracks, 45's and LP's).
The Late 1960's brought a change in the air for the Guitar, not only
"Fuzz" but Distortion, not only distortion but no more plucking
individule strings sounding like a distorted Rubber Band, other than
Guitarists like Alvin Lee (of Ten Years After) who was Blues-based but
added Overdrive yet his tone was very clear but Heavy. Hendrix,
Carlos
Santana and Eric Clapton with Cream,
learned the power of the
"Power/Bar Chord", that sustaning note strummed to let the chords "ring
out", which Critics would scold because they were still in a frame
of mind of "Rock 'n Roll" and making Hit Songs, "Just another 4 Chords
Band" they would say. I was just a little geeky kid, but I
remember that somewhere, TV
interviews, Critics criticizing things they just analized too much. But
those Chords appealed to me something primal.
But the Beatles were the building block of my formative Years, especially Rubber Soul and the Albums after.
My Father had a Cheapy Acoustic Classical Guitar and a Harmony Hollow
Body Electric with a Tube Harmony Amp, I tried to play both, but they
were "Clean", too clean in sound and I always remembered at around 5 to
7 years old that I couldnt squeeze out the DISTORTION! I just
didnt understand.
So I gave up on it for awhile.
Cream, Vanilla Fudge, Jimi Hendrix, Blue
Cheer, MC5, Alvin Lee and Ten Years After, The Kinks, The Who, and a
few others, all these Bands that I only heard small bits of on Radio
drew me in with the facination of Distorted Guitars, then . . . I
noticed the "sound", their abilities to sound so different than each
other. I grew up on all kinds of Music so I was well versed on variety at a very young age.
Everything was new, a very different time, it almost seemed that even
Pop songs had a bit more musicality, even if they were less than 5
minutes long. But I was exposed to almost every possible music .
. . And I was open to anything with a young fertile mind.
The Move to Angrier Tones. Where the roots come from . . .
At 7 I moved from California to
Louisiana, from day 1 I hated it, me and my Father were rediculed about
our Spanish Heritage (I'm Spanish/Sicilian, my Folks are from Honduras
with a Heritage that goes back to Toledo Spain and a 16th Century
Painter)
and I was a timid nappy headed boy who was completely naive to
everything. My Father was a pretty tough guy in Central America.
He Ran my Grandfathers Ranch, a Forman at 15! But his mind was always
to come to America, California specifically, the land of Movies and
"Rock and Roll" to raise a Family.
He used to be the "Head guy" in his group of friends, an Uncle told me
and my Brother in recent years that he used to carry around an Acoustic
Guitar, singing and strumming like some balladier. Apparently
thats what attracted my Mom, and he looked like a young
Elvis (me and my Brother have his "Lip Quiver" thing, but only when we
get really pissed-off). But he was also the guy "If you
have a problem with my friends, you had to go through me", thats what
my Uncle told us he'd say to Bullies.
My Father tried to become a Citizen at 19 by joining up with the
Marines in 1959, then again in 1961, but he had flat-feet, so he took the
old fashioned route by applying for citizenship, so did my Mom.
He probably would have gone to Vietnam, if he survived, no telling how his "temper"
would've been "back in the World". My Mom learned English in College in
"British Honduras" (now Belize)
and my Father learned by watching Football Games , we became hard-core Oakland Raider Fans.
So my Father went through alot. In the Parish we lived in, it was
really racist, and my Dad dealt with alot at the Avondale Ship Yards as
a Welder on Destroyers. Me, I learned very young that I wasnt good at anything, except Drawing,
and not doing well in class brought redicule from Teachers, Bullies,
then at Home . . . I was a mess.
A big dissapoinment to my Parents.
The 3 things that saved me was Music and my Art. And divine
intervention (and possibly the 5 years of Shotokan Karate, I was a 3rd Dan Brown Belt by 14).
Many of
the Music the Family owned was only in the more "Rock" catagory and Contemporary Vocalists.
I was totally emersed in the Beatles. And
Santana because my Father loved the 1st 5 albums. So these were
the seeds for Progressive Rock, but the harder edged stuff came a close 2nd in my life. Grand Funk Railroad would be the first of the Hard Rock "Bands" to enter my conciousness, the wailing soulful singing and Blues Heavy Guitar of Mark Farmer made an impression to these young ears (and the Hammond Organ sound!).
Along with many others and those distorted guitars.
The 2nd.
One day in English Class in Junior High, struggling through the books
while the Teacher was out of the room, one of the Bullies had a small
Transistor Radio, he says to me "Hey! You know who THIS is?" . . .
as I hear these slow pulsing riffs on a Guitar that I actually noticed
was kind of cool. I said to him, "I dont know, Grand Funk?" . . .
He slaps the back of my head and he says, "No BITCH, thats Fog Hat!".
. . . my introduction to "Slow Ride" and Foghat .
From that day, I knew my Bands, what songs stood out. I started
listening closer to what I liked. And to this day, I want to
punch that pricks face-in! (Probably a Fat balding b*****d now).
UFO, Amboy Dukes, The Who, The Eagles, Heart, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Alman
Brothers Band, Grand Funk, Foghat, Black Oak Arkansas, Aerosmith, Alice Cooper, Brownsville Station, Bachman Turner Overdrive (BTO), Queen, Humble Pie, Nazereth, Mahogany Rush, Uriah Heep and Led
Zeppelin. These bands had a
heavier sound, but for some reason I was missing out on the Bands that would come into
my collection Years later and represented what "Heavy Metal" sounded like from the beginning like Black Sabbath, Judas Priest and Deep
Purple.
But the memory of a few Deep Purple songs, without really knowing "who" they were would stay until my rediscovery decades later.
A Heavier Direction.
By the time we finally decided to move away from Louisiana after 7 long
years, other Bands were starting to make their way with bigger hits and
newer Bands. Boston was everything I wanted in a Band, dualing
Guitars, A fantastic Vocalist and catchy but Hard Rock tunes. It was
the summer of 1977. "Don't look back"
would debut and I'd listen to my LP on a regular basis.
Soon after the move, Van Halen made its debut . . .
What the HELL is
that guy doing to that Guitar!? So many people take for granted
what he's done, but to my generation, it was like seeing Hendrix at
Monterey Burn his Guitar while still plugged in! (Later on in life, I
would discover Steve Hackett with Genesis and Allan Holdsworth were
using the same techniques before Van Halen, even though they were not as "flashy" with it).
4 Bands were my ultimate faves:
1. Kansas. My 1st foray into Progressive Rock.
2. Boston. They were the perfect Hard Rock Band.
3. Van Halen . . . welcome to a Heavier Hard Rock World.
4. Kiss. I listened to "Destroyer" Religiously.
I got my 1st Albums and Cassettes of my own, though I got a few
more Albums from Kiss. They really never satisfied after Destroyer and
I never went backwards in their catalogue, I think I was more
into the "Image" and following the crowd. Foriegner, ELO, Ted Nugent, Eagles would be the next LP's and
Cassettes. Rock with a more "progressive" bent started to prevade my
time. Along with 1 hit wonders and . . .
DISCO !!!
That only lasted for a few months when I got bored with the repetitive
lyrics and simple music. I chanted "Disco Sucks" with every other
kid Rocker.
But then I started noticing Bands like Yes, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Bad
Finger, Bad Company, Journey, AC~DC, Thin Lizzy, Sweet and more Led Zeppelin, Heart, Kansas, Queen, and The Who. Just the "Hits" on AM and my rare listens of FM Radio.
We lived in the sweltering heat of the "Valley" (San Fernando Valley)
in an Apartment Complex right off Van Nuys Blvd. that was famous for
Car "Cruising" until it was outlawed that Summer. But that lasted
only a Year till we found a nice neighborhood in West Covina with a new
House and I started Highschool.
Highschool was a 3 and a half year blur, all I remember was
un-happiness, except for a few friends, noticing pretty girls and my
Art/Drawing class, otherwise a very unhappy time in my life.
It wasnt until I turned 17 that Kansas, Yes, Van Halen, Heart and
Boston were my faves. But the Prog side of things were
dominating. Then in 1980 . . . I heard . . .
"The Spirit of Radio" . . . this song had such odd time changes, such a
strange vocalist, the Drums and the Guitar were soo . . . I dont know,
this song sounded like 3 songs in one. And for the 1st time I noticed .
. . the Bass Guitar, but in this case, it was Geddy's famous Tone.
I did not know what to make of Rush.
But by 1981
when I had to go to a Continuation School to get my Diploma, I had a
classmate who was telling me that he was going to see Rush on their
"Moving Pictures Tour" and he talked about the Drummer how awesome he
was. Then "Tom Sawyer", "Red Barchetta" and "YYZ" hit me like a
Ton of Bricks . . . I was hooked.
But "Camera Eye" and "Witch
Hunt" were profound (as "Jacobs Ladder" and "Natural Science" on the previous album "Permanent Waves").
Also, the Scorpions "Animal Magnitism" debuted, I didnt know "Germans" made this kind of Music!
This could very well be my 1st real "Heavy Metal" Album. Soon the NWOBHM would hit our shores but I missed it, I was in some
sort of bubble, all I heard from it was the fantastic debut of Def
Lepard "On Through the Night".
The Change.
At 18 my best friends nieghbor Alex, was getting into Hard Rock and he
had a Guitar, so we clicked right away and he got me a Job (my 1st)
where he worked.
Then music got a turn for the heavier, Ozzy Osbourne
from the Band we were just discovering, Black Sabbath, split and he got
his own band . . .
Then came Randy Rhodes. The DARK version of Eddie Van
Halen. Same chops, just a bit less flash and heavy on the HEAVY
and the Classical influence turned up a notch.
THIS was Heavy Metal.
My Best friend Glenn, was a Kansas fan as well
and he introduced me to Genesis, its soo hard to imagine that I
"couldnt get it", so many time changes, weird lyrics and strange
sounding instruments.
It was like a friend in High School playing Pink Floyd's "Animals" on
his high-end Stereo System, so strange and wonderful yet . . .
I just didnt understand it.
I remember asking Alex while driving back home late after our
Graveyard shift, "Alex, have you heard this band called Iron Maiden? I
was hearing about them somewhere" . . . "Nope" he'd say.
Amazing that I wouldnt hear their music till about 6 years later.
By the time I got my 2nd Job at 19, I was a Rush fanatic, across the
street, there was a "Zody's" Dept. Store and they had an LP sale, all
Records $4.99! They had EVERY Rush Album up to the latest Moving Pictures . . . I
bought them all and just dived in. For a time I thought Peter Criss
of
Kiss had the ultimate Drum Solo on "Kiss Alive II" that I worshipped
since 1978. Then I heard "YYZ" on "Exit... Stage Left".
. . . turned into a Drum Worshipper overnight and Neil Peart became God on Earth. It was because of him I started identifying with Lyrics (Song Writer/Lyricist).
I started getting into early Shredders as well, like Robin Trower, Jeff Beck, Pat Traverse Band, Ronnie Montrose, Sammy Hagar (He was a Guitar Hero way back when) and more.
Somewhere over the Rainbow.
At Alex's House, we watched a Late Night Video show called "Rock
World", keep in mind this is 1982 (MTV was just a thought). On
this particular night a Concert Festival in England called "The
Monsters of Rock at Castle Donnigton Speedway" was shown.
And here is Top40 Radio DJ "Rick Dees" announcing Rainbow!
. . . . . . Oh My God!
How could I have missed out on Ritchie Blackmore and Deep Purple all those Years?
The Rainbow album "Down to Earth" debuted a few months before and I
noticed the "Hits" on the Radio, but seeing Graham Bonnet WAILING those
songs, and Blackmore, such a Showman reving-up the crowd and doing
weird things to his Guitar . . .
Then the Sound FX Guitar Solo, all alone on stage making the
strangest noises, a (Rush and) Rainbow fanatic I became. I bought all the
previous Rainbow albums and discovered not only the HUGE Deep Purple "Family Tree", but . . . DIO.
The RonnieJames Dio era of Rainbow just floored me, I was hooked. Both "Rising" and "Long Live Rock n Roll" just bring me back to the
sounds, the "smell" of the Vinyl and the Cardboard of the Covers, the
time, like stepping into a time machine. Reading the Lyrics and the credits, admiring the Art.
It prompted me to ask my Parents for a "Strat" Guitar from a
neighborhood Guitar Shop in West Covina, across from the School I couldnt wait to
leave, Nogales High School in LaPuente Ca. So me and Alex played,
bought Stomp Boxes and emulated our heroes as best we could.
Dio soon replaced Ozzy in Sabbath and I became a big fan of "Heaven and
Hell" (the Album) and the subsequent albums with vocalists Dio, Glenn Hughes, Ian Gillan (Both from Deep Purple) and Tony Martin.
From then on, I became an Album Collector at 20.
I also got into the
Southern Rock phase, Molly Hatchett, Point Blank, 38 Special, The
Outlaws, Blackfoot, Atlanta Rythem Section, Allman BrothersBand and others. Some of these guys embraced the Metal edge as well.
Music was getting heavier, progressive and I ate it all up. I had no idea what would come next . . .
Discovery, A Sea of Possibilities.
Well
like everyone else, one Band leads to another, to new eras of
Sub-genres, to re-discovery or discoveries of Bands you missed out on.
Then on a local Station (Now gone) KMET, the very popular DJ "Jim Ladd" had one of the 1st
3 Hour Metal Shows in the Nation called "The KMetal Shop". This is when I became a
full fledged Metal Head!
Judas Priest, UFO, Black Sabbath, Scorpions (with Uli Jon Roth), April
Wine, Rush, Deep Purple, Rainbow, Gary Moore (in the hey day of his Metal years), Motorhead, Whitesnake (the days when they were a Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Blues Band), Triumph, Accept, Krokus, Budgie, Praying Mantis, Samson, Saxon and more were played. I never realized there was
so much!
And to hear the actual debut albums from:
Metallica, Megadeth, Savatage, Queensryche, Savage, Razor, St. Vitus,
Trouble, Metal Church, Exciter, Possessed, Slayer, Testament, Armoured
Saint, Roughcutt, Anthrax,
Exodus, Angelwitch, Bodine, Anvil, TNT, Warlord, Laaz Rockit, C.O.C., Y&T,
Heritic,
Hades, Demon, Dokken, Vandenburg, White Sister, Lizzy Borden, Tyrant, Man O War, Virgin Steel, TT Quick, Fifth Angel, Sanctuary,
Great
White, Alcatrazz, Stryper, Riot, Malice, Raven, WASP, Diamond Head, Cirith Ungol,
Rail, Motley Crue, King Diamond, Candlemass, Shock Paris, Pretty Maids, Dwarf, Mamma's Boys, David Chastain/Chastain, Cathedral, Tank, Manilla Road, Crimson Glory,Zebra (Which would be my 2nd Concert to attend, they were really awesome too!) and many
others. And from Japan! Loudness, Earthshaker, Bow Wow, Anthem and Dead End. . . . Heavy Metal heaven.
I started buying as much of these as I
could and started making Compilation Tapes. Metal engulfed my
world. "Youre no Metal Fan!" . . .
Its kind of funny, I was often ridiculed not being an "AC~DC"
Fan, "How can you be a Metal head if...". I liked a few of their
songs, but it seemed most of their songs sounded too alike, with Bon
Scott and the era with Brian Johnson (I wanted them to break out of the
Blues-bar based Rock foundation, but then, they wouldnt be
AC~DC). I would defend myself by saying, "Well, I like the Accept, Krokus and
Def Lepard's High and Dry versions of AC~DC, they seem to have a harder edge and better Guitar skills!"
. . . yes, I still believe that, my taste is not for everyone .
If your'e smacking your face about "Krokus"!?, Krokus made a name for
themselves when the "Headhunter" album was released, and had a Hit with
"Screaming in the Night", but the rest of the album was VERY heavy for
its time. But their previous albums were totally influenced by
AC~DC, even Lyrically with that "Bad Boy/Scrapper" attitude, only they
were from Switzerland. It was like knowing the latter day
Scorpions and finding a "new band" from their past with Uli Jon Roth
(haha, that was me!).
Accept could also be the 1st band that I had no problem with the
Rough/Screaming voice of Udo Dirkschneider, which was a sort-of heavier
Johnson but the music side was very Heavy Metal. "Fast as a
Shark" has been recognized as possibly being the 1st Speed Metal song
of its kind (Motorhead could be argued as being the 1st, but there was
a familiarity with FaaS, it wasnt raw, it was precise).
Savatage was beat to the punch by one year (Accept 1982), for in 1983
they released their 1st album "Sirens", another super heavy band for
its time and "Rage" may have been up there as another 1st for Speed
Metal, Metallica's "Kill 'em All" would be released on the following
June. I still have the original pressing of Siren's on LP with
the original Artwork.
Loudness from Japan was next, the album "Law of the Devils Land" was simply astounding, Guitarist Akira Takasaki
was incredibly technical and fast . . . then to learn that this album
also came out in 1983, but on January 21st. The cuts "In the
Mirror" and the appropriately titled "Speed" can very well be the 2nd
Speed Metal songs (who went into the recording studio 1st I wonder).
. . . I devoured these Accept, Savatage and Loudness albums. This
was a new Era, the birth of Heavy Metal and seeds for a new sub-genre.
A few years later. . .
The next change was my younger Brother, he was getting into the old
and newer Punk. And a new genre of Punk started, The "Crossover" Bands
that would soon turn into "Speed Metal", as "Thrash" would become the
term. So he would play DRI, Excell and Nuclear Assault. I didnt
get it. Theyre playing soo fast I dont understand it, the vocals werent "Melodic" but rough. But
something stuck, the
more I listened, the more I understood it. He also introduced me to
"Beneath the Remains" by Sepultura. Possesed and Slayer
were the
1st steps of "Death Metal" (I remember Slayer being called Death Metal,
I think only because of the so-called "Satanic" lyrics, how far we've
come), but it took a bit of time to get used to
the Screaming and "Cookie" vocals. But Sepultura were so damn
tight, the drumming by Igor Cavalera was incredible, I quickly got into them. I got into the Joey Belladonna era of Anthrax as well whole-heartedly.
At this time I also discovered Warrior, a Band much like
Queensryche. And it was watching a local Video show when I saw
"Fighting for the Earth" that I turned my Brother and friend onto
it. I'd soon find the Album and play it religiously, an excellent
album! (Its really too bad that this album was not re-released on CD, I
have seen the original pressing once. Though I still have the LP).
Soon after that, we moved from West Covina to Chino California.
The KMET show was now long gone but I started noticing College Radio
Stations. I had a real good Antenna and I picked up on the local
station of Harvey Mudd College in Claremont. Here was this guy
doing an ALL Thrash and Death Metal Show, I believe around 1990 at
10pm. From Countries I could not imagine. Finland, Norway,
Germany, Sweden, South America. The show was called "Infernal
Rage" and was the number 1 Radio Show at a Prestigious Ivy League
University! At 10pm to 1am. In-Turn that made a local Store called Rhino Records THEE place
to find rare and precious "Metal".
He was so Hard-core, he refused to play Metallica, Anthrax and Megadeth .
So I was treated to (many Debut albums!):
Sepultura, Slayer, Exodus, Sentenced, Realm, Forbidden, Holocross,
Powermad, Nuclear Assault, Voi Vod, Carcass, Holocaust, Coven, Mordred,
Testament, Kreator,
Viking, Deathrow, Pestilence, Morbid Death, Coroner, Dark Angel, Death Angel, Liege Lord, At the
Gates, Napalm Death, Iron Christ, Celtic Frost, Tournaquet, INC, Faith
or Fear,
Atrophy, Acrophet, S. O. B., Destruction, Kataklysm, Toxic, Autopsy, M.O.D./S.O.D.,
Possesed, Carnivor, Cynic, Exhorder, Hirax,
Excell, Waysted Youth, Suicidal Tendencies, Overkill, Zoetrope, DRI,
Intruder, Vio-Lence, Godflesh, Gorefest, Evil Dead,
Bathory, Mercyful Fate, Leeway, Sabbat, Znowhite, Obituary, Entombed, Atrocity, Acid
Bath, Demolition Hammer, Cryptic Slaughter, Flotsam & Jetsam,
Heathen, Tankard, Sodom, Hexx, Lawnmower Death, Mortal Sin, Xentrix, Hellb*****d,
Annihilator, DBC, Overdose, Holy Moses, Holy Terror, Uncle Slam,
Onslaught,
Artillery, Mekong Delta, Malevolent Creation, Mortification, Dorsal
Atlantica, Deicide, Anacrusis, Defiance, Cromags, Sacred Riech, Sadus,
Benediction, Nocturnus, Extreme Noise Terror, Nuclear Death, Athiest, Attaxx, The Accused
(and TONS more. Thats about all I can remember off the top of
my head).
I talked to the DJ alot on the Phone about the Genre, and then ended up
visiting him, and he was this young Kid in his late Teens from Seattle
Washington, pimpled faced, but really knew his stuff. But I was really
amazed at his collection, he would bring in about 3 Milk Crates filled
with Swedish Thrash Compilations and other Thrash/Death Metal Albums,
and he said, "I have alot MORE at Home on LP's CD's and Cassettes!". Just so hard to imagine so-much, especially back then.
I then discovered some on my own, sometimes word of mouth, a write-up
in a Trade Mag or taking the chance on a cool Album Cover. So I made
alot of Prog and Metal finds.
Things took a turn- for what would become my fave Genre of Metal.
Tech-Thrash (Prog Metal and Math Metal later in life). I discovered Watchtower and Cacophony, I was FLOORED at how they remembered all the time changes and Ron Jarzombek, Marty Friedman and Jason Becker would be my new Guitar Gods, up there with Blackmore, Alex Lifeson, Kerry Livgren and Rich Williams (Kansas), and Steve Howe (Yes).
But I wanted more! Soon I became huge fans of:
1. Watchtower
2. Cacophony
3. Athiest
4. Sabbat (uk)
5. Cynic
6. Forbidden
7. Sanctuary
8. Rosicrucian
9. Powermad
10. Realm
11. Anacrusis
12. Death (later days)
13. Atrocity
14. Panic
15. Wrathchild (US)
16. Depressive Age
And also got into Christian Thrash Metal like, Deliverence, Believer, Tournaquet, Vengence Rising, The Crucified and Mortification (All these bands above are a bit spread out throughout the next 10 years, so my references of time are a bit blurred).
The Power of 4.
Sabbat, Realm, Powermad and Forbidden made big impacts in my life.
The men from Nottingham! Sabbat was different, they talked of Paganism but in such a heavy way,
by the time their 2nd album came, "Dreamweaver: A Reflection of our Yesterdays" I was a full blown
fan. Martin Walkyier I'll say time and time again is a Shakesperian, Dickens-like Bard! His clever
use of double entendre's and of the English is truely poetic, no-one comes close except John Arch
with Fates Warning back in the day. Martins voice- rough, screams and cookie vocals fit perfectly.
And the Music got more complex with an addition of a 2nd Guitarist, the whole package was unique
and so different than anything out there at the time. By the time we saw a 3rd album, Martin left and
formed "Skyclad", and Sabbat went in a more "Math" direction, much to the shigrin of most of their
fans, but I LOVED it. A more operetic, melodic vocalist was hired by the name of Ritchie Desmond
and Andy Sneap's Guitar playing had almost no trace of "Rock and Roll structure". His wild fusions
in the guitar solos were outrageous and amazing . . . "Mourning has Broken" was way ahead of its
time and most listeners. Sneap would go on to be a Famous Heavy Metal Engineer and Producer
(To reform Sabbat later with Martin, and go on a first-time World Tour in 2008 and 09). Forbidden was a band to me that epitomized everything I wanted in Thrash; Techanical, Complex,
the Riffage we come to expect but they played difficult Arpeggios and Motifs. Russ Anderson the
vocalist who looked like a Viking with Long Redhair, on the 2nd album "Twisted Into Form" (On the
back of the LP version) there is a photo of him as if he was engulfed in flames! THAT is the
representation of his vocals, from a Rob Halford like Scream, to melodic "singing", rough thrash to
grunting, but with emphasis on melody as well as barking the words in syncopation with the
percussive attacks of all the musicians.
Also the song lyrics were about everything I was interested in, self integrity, anti-drug (Step by
Step), the self-destruction of Racism (Twisted into Form) and just about any real world issues.
On their reformation album and 3rd full length release "Distortion", they were adding a bit more
Progressive elements, including doing an awesome Thrash version of King Crimson's "21st
Century Schitzoid Man". You also have 2 members that went onto grace other Bands like Guitarist
Tim Calvert (Nevermore) and Drummer Paul Bostaph (Slayer, Testament). An amazing Band. Powermad, another Band ahead of their time as well with their modern melodic Thrash, but
could be just as complex and added stop and go timing, with a VERY melodic singer (Much like
Toxic, but I think this voice was more fitting) Joel DuBay and he could really sustain a screaming
and 5 octave yell!
And he played Rythem and Lead Guitar along with his more than capable fellow Guitarist Todd
Haug. Sadly, they only recorded 1 EP and 1 Full-length. They also had a famous member from
Drummer John Macaluso (Absolute Power), he would go onto Bands such as Riot, TNT,
Yngwie Malmsteen, Ark and his own John Macaluso & Union Radio. Realm was highly unusual, their structures were not typical Thrash, fast, chugging, but with
lightning fast tempos and chord changes, but they could do melodic songs that were just as heavy,
but not following the typical structures of most Thrash, highly Progressive influences and they are
1 of the 1st Thrash Bands to use Guitar Synths. The vocalist Marc Antoni could scream
unbelievably high, and had an unusual melodic but strong powerful voice (and an interesting
vibrato at times). They are well known for their remake of one of my fave Beatles classics "Elenor
Rigby". Its how I would have done it, I remembered being completely floored how fast but how
they kept the integrity of its core, as the Guitars would do the "String Riffs" and Antoni just belting
-out "Whoooaaa!, Look at all the Lonely People!!!!" and then he would perfectly split his voice into
Harmonies at the right time . . . truely amazing.
They also do "One more Red Nightmare" by King Crimson on the re-release of "Suiciety", sadly
again, only 2 Full-length albums.
Later: Rosicrucian, Athiest, Cynic and Wrathchild were soon to follow. As well as the "Human" thru
"The Sound of Perseverence" era of Death would be the other extreme Tech-Thrash/Math Metal to
totally engross my ears and my ever growing collection.
The Virtuosos.
I would also discover other Shredders ala' Friedman and Becker, like YngwieMalmsteen's solo albums (I was already a fan of him in Alcatrazz) defining the "Neo-Classical Prog Metal" era along with Tony MacAlpine. Then Joe Satriani, Joey
Taffola, Vinnie Moore, Greg Howe, Paul Gilbert (and Racer X) and Steve Vai
whom I discovered a few years before on his Debut,
as he would become one of my fave Guitarists as well, and having a
collection of Guitar Player Magazine, a Cover story of Frank Zappa and
an insert called, "Zappa's Italian Virtuoso". I would read about
Vai 1st, then on another Local College Radio show I heard "The Attitude
Song" . . .
was my reaction, and I have the 1st 3 pressings of that album with its
different covers. And before Zappa this would be my introduction to
"Humour" in Rock/Metal and Prog.
It was
there I would discover all the Prog and Jazz/Fusion Shredders.
And Bands with incredible Guitarists like Michael Schenker (and MSG),
Blue Murder w/John Sykes, and Hard Rockers Tesla, Tora Tora, Saigon Kick and Kingdom
Come.
Forgive forgive! (Me or Them?) "Painted plastic faces stealing mommies make up
Masque the false gods with mannequin smiles
Prima donnas play upon their pedestal of fame
Unborn girls false fascade illegitamate child
I won't play your game . . ."
- "Valley of the Dolls"/Fates Warning
From their
things took a turn for the rediculous . . . "Glam Rock", not the cool
stuff from the 70's like Sweet, Slade or Bowie. "Cock Rock" and the INSULTING
"Hair Metal" (I
refuse to put the word Metal into anything associated with this . . .
music). Well welcome to "Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll to excess times
150!
Those bands appealed NOTHING to me, it was pretty much incapsulated by
the Film, "The Decline of Western Civilization: The Metal Years" They
all looked
and sounded like a bunch of Bafoons, you could smell the STENCH through
the TV speakers. It all came to a head when at the end of the
Documentary . .
. the Saviours of the Film summed it all up, Dave Mustaine, and Dave Ellefeson of Megadeth:
"...I want to stay at a street level, I dont want to have any
pretentious values in life, to write music for the dollar sign"
-Mustaine "...I'm in this business because of Megadeth is in this business-and thats because of attitude, integrity and music" -Ellefeson
I was one of those guys who whole heartedly believed in "NO GLAM FAGS", (sorry fans).
I just hated that stuff and still do. The Metal I liked was full of
integrity, yes, some succumbed to Drugs and Alcohol, but many
cleaned-up, some didnt make
it, but this goes back to what I said about Sex, Dugs and Rock 'n Roll,
I just see it as self-destructive, plain and simple.
Lyrics mean the world to me and I always wanted to hear what bands had to say, and Glam said nothing to me, it wasnt my scene, I couldnt relate, and I wasnt a womanizing b*****d. I
have always likened Thrash and Death Metal as the "Modern Folk Rock" of
that era because they spoke Independence, free thinking, life, liberty
and the persuit of
happiness, no matter what backround youre from. From Politics to the
Human
Condition, and nothing was Taboo (though some of it was perverted and revolting).
As long as it was a creative and a profoundly insightful, it was all good.
From then on with 3 new friends, we discovered new Music Stores, I
played my compilation Tapes in their Cars and we planned on seeing Bands for the first time.
Iron Maiden, Queensryche and Metallica fought to be 1st place in my
Metal mantle though. All completely different from each other, but
Metallica opened the door for the extreme Metal. From the 1st listen of "Fight Fire with Fire" . . . its all it took.
Iron Maiden was the late find, but by the time "Piece of Mind" was released, I worshipped them.
Queensryche was probably my 1st Prog Metal Band, they were discovered
from their debut on the KMetal Shop program like Metallica's debut with
"Kill 'em All". Can't
tell you how me and my friend worshipped that debut (EP) Album
and
how we couldnt wait for their next Full Length Album "The Warning". An excellent album all the way through but it was NM156 and Roads to Madness that really blew my socks off ("Rage for Order"
would be
the 1st time to see them, at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium).
Savatage and Metal Church would be close behind, as well as the
Tech/Thrash Bands I mentioned. In later years, that list of
Tech/Thrash bands would grow and they were vying for top of the heap
(hehe, to mention all of them, would be to list my entire Catalogue).
I emersed myself into Metal, I moved in with a friend named Don in
Garden Grove California (Orange County), and he became a "Guitar Junky".
He was more into the Guitar Shredders and he was a big "George Lynch
(Dokken)" fan, so he bought Aria Guitars, modified them and painted
them in the Famous "Tiger Stripes". He would have parts strewn
all over the Living Room, we looked like a Music Parts Store! We
would make trips to Hollywood on "Guitar Row" on Sunset Blvd., stop
at The Mesa Boogie Repair Shop to get parts. What a time we had.
I tried to emulate the sounds of Metallica, Metal Church, Queesnsryche, Saxon and
Savatage by buying Pedals, tweaking my friends Mesa Boogie Studio 22
Amp, and modify my Piece of sh*t Memphis Strat, it got routed,
re-gutted and drilled soo much, I cut-out a few stickers and stuck the
words "Killed" onto my Guitar.
Whats the saying, "You can't polish a piece of S. . ." , you know?
But I learned alot about creating my own sounds, it never fails nowadays, when ever I hear a sound that people eww and awe about, many a time I can honestly say . . . " hmm, I did that one".
He was into playing covers and good at reading Tabliture. Me on
the other hand had a pretty good ear, but I could never get everything
accurate, I took lessons at the little Guitar Shop in West Covina, but
like the Lessons and Math in School, it wouldnt keep. So I ended
up being an "Improvisational" player, not with any plans
to be a Guitarist instead of a Professional Artist, I just couldnt
imagine writing songs and recording them. I limited my
limitations unfortunatly.
I was getting more into the heavier stuff than Don was . . .
We had the Florida, New York, and San Francisco "Sound" from Thrash and
Death Metal, The Swedish Death Scene that progressed to Norway and
Finland. Grindcore grew, "Gore Metal" started gaining more footing, but I
started getting into "Doom Metal" even though I had a taste a few years
earlier on KMET, like Celtic Frost, Candlemass, St. Vitus, Cathedral,
Trouble, Solitude Aternus, Momento Mori and others.
A new station from Orange County hit the Airwaves as well, KNAC of Hunington Beach.
The 1st all Metal Radio Station, for the 1st few years it was pretty
cutting edge, and thats where I 1st heard Pantera as "Cowboys from
Hell" debuted. I loved the Stop and Go timing of "Dimebag" and
his Brother on Drums. Thanks to them and Bands like Propain, Sepultura and the "Chaos AD" sound and Machine Head, out grew the
"Aggro Metal" Scene. Also about this time The "Seattle Sound" hit, I
was only into a few Bands that came out with this "sound", its funny how some of these we consider "Metal" now.
Alice in Chains, STP, Mudhoney, Soundgarden, and at this time I became a big fan of Primus, they were so unusual but their chops were like King Crimson meets Rush meets Zappa meets Monty Python!
This Seattle Sound also spawned "Funk Metal" which I really liked, especially Mordred, 24/7 Spyz, Mind Funk , Fishbone and Faith No More.
But then KNAC became too watered-downed, "Trash Rock" became pervasive
with the "Hair Bands", Glam and Grunge Gods Nirvana, which I have never
understood why they were soo popular. So pick your Glam flavour and the
newest sensation Guns and Roses. I couldnt get into them either. I figured, if I wanted to hear
sloppy Rock, I'll listen to the guys who made it sound "good" and that
was Aerosmith!
And then "NU Metal" started growing after I left Orange County, The
idea of Rap and Metal just makes me want to Puke, I can totally
understand a little "flavour", but not throughout a whole song. Thats
why I liked "Funk Metal" it just seemed a bit more real, it had more to
do with "Parliment/Funkadelic" and the Rapping was more of a "statement" than being wanna-be urban tough.
The whole "Thug" look with the baggy pants and boxers sticking out ,
Hoodies and "angled" Baseball caps just seemed so damn fake. It
was more about "Bling", or the "Dont mess with me!" attitude, not
the music. But
of all the fads, Nu Metal would stick around for quite sometime, along
with its Fashion image. Ugh .
I just saw Metal being over-run by Fads, Corporate Greed and
Popularity. Basically this is when Radio died for me and I was
left to my own devices searching out and finding the True Metal
Bands (imo, just my own observations, so forgive me). The Record Industry would never be the same.
Gretchen goes to Nebraska!
But a little Band from Austin Texas (by way of Mississippi) gave me a little light through the cracks, a power trio named Kings X with their blend of Rock, Blues, Gospel and Prog Metal. The lyrics were positive and all 3 members knew what a "groove" was,
they would become a favorite Group in my ever growing collection as I
follow them to this day. It gave me a little hope.
Then and Now.
Things took another left-turn as the Tech Thrash became more pervasive in my collection.
After hearing about Fates Warning,
my 1st Album was going to a HUGE Record Store called "Music Market"
(now long gone unfortunately). The newely released "No Exit" was my
first Album.
Like Rush, I was hooked! By the time the needle reached the Epic "The
Ivory Gate of Dreams", I think the Technical side of things just became
"it", Rush . . . Then Tech Thrash. Such awesome Guitar work from Frank Aresti and John Matheos, and the debut of Ray Alder and his soaring vocals. From their I went backwards in
their catalogue and discovered, like the Dio era Rainbow . . . John
Arch. Arch's era of Fates was soo different than anything out there.
Though the 1st 2 albums he was obviously a Bruce Dickenson
fan, he came to his own on "Awaken the Guardian", for me, just a
perfect album of Metal at that time. Melodic yet heavy, not too fast
but had Time Changes that were very unsusual and
ahead of its time period. And Arch, became such a unique and powerful
Vocalist. It was a shame I missed all those years of him in the Band,
and that would be the last time he'd hold a Mic till his Solo Album
after . . . 30 years! I hope we will have more.
If Queensryche and Fates Warning were the Seeds to make this new Genre
germinate, It was an ad in the back of a Kerrrrang Magizine that would
blow the doors wide open.
It said:
"If you like Rush and Queensryche, you'll Love Dream Theater".
The ad was for "When Dream and Day Unite", went to Music Market, found
it, bought it, couldnt wait to put it on my Turntable (Yes, I have the
Mechanic Label 1st pressing) . . .
From "Fortune in Lies" on Side A to the last song "A Matter of Time" on Side B, I think my mouth was agape.
I listened to that album soo much, by the time I 1st heard their next Album
"Images and Words", I was upset that they let Charlie Dominici go, for
me he was the voice of DT.
It was like when "Operation Mindcrime" by QR was released, I thought Rage for Order was Heavier and it actually had to grow on me! And now I look at
Operation and IAW as Classics!
And now James LaBrie IS the voice of Dream Theater (and Charlie has his excellent Prog Metal Band Dominici).
Epilogue.
Well, from then on, I kept EVERY love I had for each genre of Metal (and Prog), as it grew with
a love for Jazz and Classical music, and as Bands got more
experimental, heavier, stranger, I loved it all (well almost
everything).
Music fell in-sinc with my Art, either enhanced it, inspired or
made it easier to create so I was constantly drawing and listening to
my ever growing collection.
It also inspired me to create Logo art, from looking at my fave artists
on many album covers that I emulated, and became an amalgamation of
various styles, in which I became a Professional Illustrator in the
Film and Video Game Industry, as well as creating Logos for various
Bands (especially in Heavy Metal and Progressive Rock). My
taste for Prog grew endlessly, there was no sub-genre I did not
like. On the other hand, Metal has its genres that are too
pretentious, or
"gross" and others fall into somekind of Corporate Decision to sell records to
Teens. This so-called "Emo-Screamo" thing is just another cash
cow, which is
too bad because some of the Bands you can hear have "chops", but they
sold their souls, and they seemed "put together" by Record Exects.
But I've been through the Industrial
Metal, Power Metal, Dark Wave/Goth Metal, and the ever growing Death,
The Gothenburg Sound/Swedish Invasion, The Nordic Invasion, Black (and
"Viking Metal") Post-Avant Garde, Doom, Sludge (and Southern Sludge),
Folk (Thanks to Skyclad and Martin Walkyier), Tech-Thrash, and Math Core/ Metal.
Whatever struck a cord with me, past or present it stuck, never to be
forgotten and still play on my CD players.
Some are pushing bounderies while others try but get lost through the
cracks, but at-least they are trying to add something to the World,
something real and truely creative. As long as you try and its from your very core of your being.
But true Metal will always be about Integrity, those are the ones who
will last through time because you can hear the music, read the
interviews, see them speak how much the music means to them and WHY
they do it, not through their clothes or trying to look tough or how
many records they sell. Most are doing it because they are
"compelled", they have to keep their "9 to 5 Jobs" to suppliment their
craft, yet they play their music to offer something new. Their
creativity will shine through, in the honesty on which they play, to
the highest denominator in their abilities to push the envelope.
. . . with lots of DISTORTION!!!
Thank you.
I've been through alot of ups and downs on this road, and still going
through some hard times, but this love for music and the 3 constants in
my life, PrOg, Metal and the Big Man upstairs (and I'm sure my Father
watching over me) have literally saved me. The Music gets me up
to face the day, and when all is
good, its also a comfortable place to go, no matter how complex or
aggressive it is.
So thank you to the musicians that I have taken on every step of my journey.
And to the Fans that support it too . . . and to those who actually read this all the way through!
And to those others, hope it gave you a goodnight sleep .
Metal for Life! its been my Life.
-MAVIII
Sources:
If you would like to checkout my "Essays" on my Life with Prog Music, So far I have
5 Chapters written and you can find them here:
http://progrockin.blogspot.com/2008/04/road-to-life-and-progressive-rock-part.html" rel="nofollow - http://progrockin.blogspot.com/2008/04/road-to-life-and-progressive-rock-part.html
(Click on "MAVIII" to find other Chapters).
These stories (and above) will be the Basis for a Book I plan on writing about my Life.
To see a current list of Tech/Math Metal I'm into:
A. http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/spiral-architect/254094-i-need-bands-like-spiral-architect-4.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/spiral-architect/254094-i-need-bands-like-spiral-architect-4.html
(See #85 by "MAVIII")
B. http://www.progulus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=451" rel="nofollow - http://www.progulus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=451
And where I go to listen to Prog Rock and Prog Metal:
http://www.progulus.com/rprweb/playing.php" rel="nofollow - http://www.progulus.com/rprweb/playing.php
A great source for Prog.
Also, I think THIS Film is what Heavy Metal is all about, seeing it from the core of what it is, I EMPLORE
you all to watch "Heavy Metal in Baghdad". Heres Part I:
Enjoy the Ride and thanks again!
------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden
For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2010 at 6:06am
^^That's quite the epic journey :-)
Logan wrote:
Metal isn't just music; it's a way of life -- heavy booze, heavy banging, and heavy metal, who could really ask for anything more? I'm not so much into the annihilation thing, though 'tis better to bang out than to burn out I say.
That's as far removed from my lifestyle as can be. I don't booze it at all - I pretty much abstain from alcohol consumption and I don't do any drugs or smoke pot or anything like that. I do drink a bit too much Pepsi Max and eat too much candy now and then - that's my vice. Not very metal, eh? I'm neither destructive nor self-destructuve To me it's all about the music; it's not about establishing an identity or fitting oneself into any stereotypes - it's not about having a certain look of a certain religious belief (or lack thereof) or a certain mindset. To me, the true metalhead loves the music. And I love the music, and it's a big part of my life, but I don't live the stereotypical metalhead lifestyle - that just wouldn't be me, it would be some other person.
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Posted By: LoudTrax.com
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 1:12pm
was simple for me....was in Grade 3. went to my cousins' house and he had just bought the "Powerslave" cassette. Listened to it twice in a row and was hooked since!
It's still one of my favorite metal albums.
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 1:14pm
LoudTrax.com wrote:
was simple for me....was in Grade 3. went to my cousins' house and he had just bought the "Powerslave" cassette. Listened to it twice in a row and was hooked since!
It's still one of my favorite metal albums.
Once you've been Maidenized, there's no way back, eh?
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 1:22pm
I changed high schools between Freshman and Sophomore years. I made a conscious decision to change my social role...I already was armed with Somewhere in Time, picked up the guitar. Being a long haired dude with a guitar has been a dominant feature of who I am ever since.
------------- We're gonna do a little number featuring Randy Rhoads...
Wine is fine but whisky's quicker.
That's what Rock n' Roll's About!!!!
Posted By: LoudTrax.com
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 1:23pm
[/QUOTE]
Once you've been Maidenized, there's no way back, eh? [/QUOTE]
you got it! no going back, and still kicking! can't wait for Maiden and DT this summer
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Posted By: NorseGangsta
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2010 at 9:37pm
I'm pretty sure it was my dad playing Master of Puppets for me for the first time. I always liked Metallica but never really got into them until a couple of years ago. I expanded to pretty much everything else from that.
Posted By: Stephen
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2010 at 10:07pm
it's always fascinating to read topics like this :)
i remember the first thing that got me into rock/metal is in around 1991and I saw a video of "Wind of Change" (scorpions' ballad) on TV and I think that's a very good song and I was only eleven years old that time. I know my father is a fan of Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Bee Gees, but aside from Beatles, I have no interest on the other bands.
After watching the video, I rushed to the store and buy a tape (rp6000 probably equals to US$3 that time) of "Crazy World" and at first, didn't really like the whole album except for that "Wind of Change" and "Send Me An Angel" (and only later when I re-explore the album, I found that it's a great record by the band).
After that, my second purchase is Mr.Big - Lean Into It and I thought that's a fantastic album (should have written the review later lol), and then a friend of mine lend me a tape of GNR - Use Your Illusion, Motley Crue - Dr.Feelgood, and Metallica - black album, and that's when I drowned myself into the whole metal affair. I listen to almost any rock/metal songs, and even though I love glam so much, I don't think I'm a glam snob as I always have a major interest in many other genres from 70s hard rock, blues rock, power metal, heavy metal, thrash metal, progmetal, etc, and probably only grunge/death/black/grindcore/alternative/nu-metal that I never be able to appreciate as much as the other genres and I have tried most of them but it just didn't click with me.
So, it's been around 20 years since my first addiction, and I don't see it's slowing down, probably getting worst lol so cheers to brothers and sisters of metal :)
Posted By: goskoski
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 6:01am
Hi
I got into metal music very slowly.
I felt bored with the music that came on TV, but I always liked dynamic songs. I listened to pop music or easy listening songs. Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Billy Idol, and an East German band called Silly got me into more rocky music than I listened before.
Then I discovered Chris de Burgh's Spanish Train and Crusader which I enjoyed very much. It was not metal, but I liked the way the songs were structured and the way it sounded. It was similar to epic metal just without the guitars. Now, I think that these songs could be great metal songs.
Chris de Burgh was until then the most dynamic music I listened to. Maybe, because I started with these songs, I am still a fan of Epic Metal or Epic Doom etc. I like well-structures songs with good storytelling.
The music that introduced me to distorted guitars were mainly metal ballads and AOR and music from Eloy. The two songs The Final Countdown by Europe and Still Loving You by Scorpions were one of the first songs that contained some distorted guitars.
There was a Radio station called Radio Luxembourg and they had a rock show called Rockline with Tommy Vence. This show introduced me to AOR bands such as Journey, Boston, Loverboy, Lee Aaron, and Survivor. Also the movie Rocky III got me into AOR due to the Soundtrack of Survivor.
When I listened to Rockline at Radio Luxemburg, I also discovered rock bands such as Ramones, Simple Minds, The Hooters, and John Cougar Mellencamp. Also music from Toto, Kansas, and similar bands were on their programme. Then they also played some songs from Kiss mostly their album Crazy Nights. They also played songs from Rush (Hold Your Fire album) and Pink Floyd.
Another, way to discover rock bands was by watching Rock/Pop Live Show called Peter Pop/Rock Show on German TV. This was a Rock/Pop Show in the 1980s. Bands performed live on stage and they were pop and rock musicians. I remember that I especially enjoyed songs by Gary Moore, Europe, Bonfire, and Brian Adams. This show introduced me to some harder sounds than I had ever heard before.
I began recording music from Radio Luxemburg Rockline. Mostly they played rock and aor, but sometimes they also included songs from the band Victory and Meat Loaf. There is had been a class mate who invited the class to a musical called The Rocky Horror Picture Show which intoduced me to Meat Loaf. At that time, it was the hardest music, I had ever listened to.
I also got introduced to band such as Magnum, Triumph, and other similar bands. Another classmate introduced me to Rainbow, Deep Purple, BAP, and others.
The hardest album I had so far was The Final Countdown by Europe and Crazy Nights from Kiss. However, my brother bought a Long Player from Def Leppard which was Hysteria. First , I just enjoyed the slower songs, but the heavier songs grew on me over time. This record was a mixture of slower and harder songs which was good for me to get accustomed to the different sounds. First, I considered the song Run Riot as Thrash Metal, because it was the fastest and loudest I heard so far. I have not heard any real speed and thrash yet.
However, the more I listened to songs like Women, Run Riot, and Dogs of War, I enjoyed it.
At Christmas Eve, I received three albums which I of course chose:
1. Triumph and Agony by Warlock
2. Tell No Tales by TNT
3. Fireworks by Bonfire
They were a step forward to Heavy Metal. Warlock and TNT introduced me to faster songs such as Three Minutes Warning or Tell No Tales.
It discovered the bands at another Radion show at Radio Bremen 4 which had a show called Wildside which was later renamed Nightmare. Then the was another show on a different channel called Monday Evening Rock Show. They showed everything from AOR to Thrash Metal and later Death Metal.
I got introduced to more harsh vocals by listening to Die Toten Hosen/Rote Rosen and Circle Jerks.
I discovered many bands through them and recorded their music. I discovered the band Helloween which was a big step forward to Speed Metal which has become my favorite genre, because I was so different from what I listened before. I recorded the song Twilight of the Gods on tape next to Against the Empire of Malice.
The interesting thing was that I did not know the title of the song of Helloween which was Twilight of the Gods. However, I wanted to have their album. Because I did not know the title of the song, I did not know from which album it was. Therefore, I just grabbed one Helloween album with the hope that this song is included. Wrong!!!!!
Imagine you expect a song such as Twilight of the Gods, but instead the album begins with Ride the Sky. I just got accustomed to the song Twilight of the Gods which I considered fast, but Ride the Sky was much heavier and brachial than Twilight of the Gods. Instead of Keeper of the Seven Keys, I purchased Walls of Jericho which introduced me to more brachial metal music. I have never regretted the purchase of this album, because it grew on me slowly, but surely. This album was like a bridge for me from traditional heavy metal to thrash metal. Although, I got used to Walls of Jericho, it took me a long time to appreciate thrash metal with harsh vocals and harsh vocals in general. Harsh vocals such as deathgrunts, growls, and screatching was still taboo for me.
Walls of Jericho was just purchase by mistake, but it turned to be a good album after several listening. First, I had trouble getting used to songs such as Ride the Sky, Phantoms of Death, and Metal Invaders, but there were more melodic songs such as Guardians and How Many Tears that I started to like first. After that I started to like Heavy Metal Is The Law and then the rest of the album.
During the radio show, they show a live concert of Helloween. It was the Hell On Wheels Tour and this show was in Minneapolis. Through this show I also discovered Armored Saint and bought their album Raising Fear. I was interested in Grim Reaper, too but I forgot about them until right now.
This was Helloween with Twilight of the Gods:
This is Armored Saint with Chemical Euphoria:
This was Grim Reaper with Lust for Freedom:
Through Helloween, I also got introduced to other bands by purchasing the split album Death Metal which included bands such as Helloween, Running Wild, Avenger from UK, and Hellhammer who became Celtic Frost. I was not yet ready for Hellhammer's music and I almost puked due to shock.
May first two thrash albums were The Principle of Doubt by Mekong Delta and World Neurosis by Living Death. The purchase of Hammerheart of Bathory introduced me to more extreme vocals, while Candlemass' Tales of Creation introduced me to Doom Metal.
Thrash Metal was introduced to me through a flexi disc which was included in a Metal Magazine. This disc included bands such as Atrophy, Flotsam and Jetsam, Toxic, Sacred Reich, and Znowhite. The first thrash song I ever heard had been before that which was Toxic Trace by Kreator. However, it took me a while to get accustomed.
The same magazine also included a similar disc which showed bands that played Hardcore such as The Idiots, Emiles and Youth of Today which introduced me to more aggressive music. I started to like Kreator's Extreme Aggression which sometimes reminded me of Warlock, but thrash.
Through Tiamat and Amorphis but also Crematory, Neolithic, and Bolt Thrower, I got into metal with growls and deathgrunts. Through a magazine The Legacy, I was introduced to band from the Dark Metal section such as The Third and the Mortal, Neolithic, Crematory, In the Woods..., Elend, and Novembre.
Here I made another mistake in purchasing an album, but this introduced me to more extreme metal that I had ever heard before. The was an article in the magazine about Novembre or In the Woods... or Carcass, but I also read an article about Kataklysm. Somehow, I mixed up the information and instead of Novembre, I purchased the album Sorcery by Kataklysm. I thought I already got used to extreme metal, but this was too much for me, but because in the past I listened to Protector's Golem, I tried this album although it is more extreme than Protector. I regarded Protector as the most extreme so far. I had not listened to black metal or this yet.
Kataklysm is still tough for me, but when I recorded Sorcery and then after that I listen to Helloween's Ride the Sky then Ride the Sky is almost like a ballad.
I have not listened to black metal with the exception of Catamenia. I prefer growls over screatching or squealing and screaming.
That is my story.
I also like Balinese Metal. They play traditional metal music with metal gongs and percussions
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 6:05am
It's a long and strange story.Another time.
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 1:31pm
Well I started really listening to music with pop-punk crap like Green Day and Blink 182, which is awful stuff but I still vastly enjoy it. As I went into high school I joined band and my friends in there were into what I thought was a lot of metal. I didn't listen to it but I started to like it.
My tastes got heavier, I went to darker alternative music like AFI and I Am Ghost, and eventually Nine Inch Nails. So I listened to a lot of dark alternative music, but nothing metal. Except I sampled some stuff around with some friends, who shared a few mix CDs like Trivium, Slayer, Killswitch, etc. I think the first metal album I bought was (sad to say now) Killswitch Engage's As Daylight Dies. It was the heaviest thing I had heard at the time, and I was overwhelmed. Now that I listen to Death and Black metal regularly I laugh, but it's cool. From Killswitch that opened the doors to actually buying metal albums.
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Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 2:20pm
I was always interested in finding the "heaviest" music that i could, which at the time was Rob zombie, sum 41, Green Day,and Rammstien. When i was in the 5th grade, so about 10-11 years old, my brother's drum teacher at the time introduced him to Dream theater and Lamb of god. He then showed thoes bands to me, and i was hooked. later on i tried to share my musical tastes with my friends (who, being about 12 years old, rejected it as screamo. GRRRR)
I guess my tastes in music have just expanded from there, and im always looking for new bands to listen to.
Now i listen to mostly Deathmetal and Grindcore, and some metalcore and black metal here and there.
Also whatever new band colin tells me to listen to.
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Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 2:28pm
The first Metal album I ever bought with my own money was Pyromania. It was 1983 and I was 12.
At the time, I enjoyed the Metal I saw on MTV (Ozzy, Maiden, Def Leppard), but wasn't actively pursuing it.
Then in 1985 a buddy turned me on to Yngwie (Marching Out)...around the same time I discovered Theatre Of Pain, Out Of The Cellar and Animalize...I was hooked.
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Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 3:15pm
As a kid, I was "exposed" to my older brother's musical taste - a lot of rock music; and at some point he was listening to Iron Maiden - SSOTSS, Malmsteen - Trilogy, Metallica - Kill'em All and many more so that's how it started.
Around '93-'94 I kinda gave up on metal for a little while, I was listening to classic rock from 60s and 70s, and discovered progressive rock. Discovering Dream Theater turned me back to metal. Progressive metal has remained since mid 90s my favourite metal subgenre.
Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 3:59pm
LittleBig wrote:
As a kid, I was "exposed" to my older brother's musical taste - a lot of rock music; and at some point he was listening to Iron Maiden - SSOTSS, Malmsteen - Trilogy, Metallica - Kill'em All and many more so that's how it started.
Around '93-'94 I kinda gave up on metal for a little while, I was listening to classic rock from 60s and 70s, and discovered progressive rock. Discovering Dream Theater turned me back to metal. Progressive metal has remained since mid 90s my favourite metal subgenre.
It's a little of the same with me. First, I got into prog through the Beatles and Led Zeppelin. Then through that I got into DT, and from there to PoS- Perfect Element in particular-, and then from there to more extreme stuff.
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 2:26am
System of a Down. Specifically their albums "System of a Down" and "Toxicity"
Before them I did not really listen to music, like at all. I really didn't know anything, just listened to whatever was around. I first heard SoaD my freshman year of HS. 2002. It was the song "Shimmy" which was on Tony Hawk 4. Really liked it and listened to a few other songs. Thought they were awesome. Inspired me to listen to some other metal bands, one was Slayer. Reign in Blood really influenced my love of thrash. Some others I liked were Fear Factory, Static X, Megadeth.
On a band trip in Washington DC we were in a mall killing time. I ducked into some store and bought SoaD and Toxicity. Listened to them until my CD player died. From their I branched out a lot into extreme metal. Lots of thrash and death metal. Of course from there I ventured into prog metal which had another permanent impact on me.
So yeah, SoaD got me into metal, and really music.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 12:19am
I used to love The Sweet and Kiss. But wanted something heavier. After hearing the metal radio shows and hearing Metallica I was hooked. I used to tape the radio show on cassette and listened to songs over and over till i finally got enough money to go out and buy one album after another. During the 80s the metal radio show was absolutely the definitive way of hearing new bands. They played anything!
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Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2012 at 8:32am
It all started late one night when 11-year old me decided to stay up and listen to the radio, when all of a sudden this strange song comes on called "Run to the Hills" by some band called "Iron Maiden"...
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2012 at 12:42pm
My cousin and brother listened to it, and it started creeping into the videogames and television I was playing/watching at the time. I liked enough of what I heard from these various sources (the gradual rise in interest built momentum constantly around 11-13 years old) to develop an interest in metal in general, buy magazines etc and become a metal fan.
It was a mixture of easier stuff like hearing Black by Metallica, Vulgar Display by Pantera from relatives and Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, RATM and metal-world-associated stuff like Marilyn Manson, Green Day, Kid Rock in things wrestling and Tony Hawks or whatever as well as the very interesting and imagination capturing Slipknot that all started it off and built up the momentum.
Once you've got the gateway of bands like that, you can find out about stuff like Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath and go from there.
Oh and in the hard-living-hard-banging part, I grew out of all the drinking etc, cut off the hair and never got into the tattoos etc in the first place, but I like the music the same as if I was still 14. I still generally like to be in bands whenever possible too.
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Posted By: buttsled
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2012 at 4:11pm
My older sister was "cool" (i.e. a Deadhead) so she had some good stuff in her collection like Pink Floyd, Back in Black, Van Halen I, Hendrix, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Mountain, Aerosmith, and Led Zeppelin. From there I evolved into Maiden and Priest, etc.
I was extremely lucky age-wise in that when I started thirsting for heavier music, along came thrash!. From there it was death, and then black, and so it goes. Now I pretty much like every kind of heavy music (as well as almost all other kinds), with the exception of "nu-metal" or whatever the hell Limp Bizkit and the Deftones, etc. are.
Posted By: Nick Dilley
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 12:38am
Well, I was in middle school and this foreign exchange student from Guatemala named Sergio was like, "your music blows, this is what we listen to in Guatemala." And he handed me "Metallica." I put the cd on random, and "Wherever I May Roam" came on. It wasn't the sitar--believe me, at this point in my life I already thought it was such an overused "token ethnic" instrument--but when the 8 snare hits came in, it was like an epiphany. My eyes got huge and I existed, for a moment, in perfect clarity........heavy is awesome.....
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 1:12pm
When I was 13, I've seen the video of "Back on Earth", by Ozzy, in the MTV (!). Later, I've listened to the compilation The Ozzman Cometh, and repeating Nick Dilley above: "Since then never looked back!"
Posted By: DefinitionOfHatred
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 2:59pm
Not an original answer:
I listened to Black Sabbath once when I was like 11-12.
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Posted By: bartosso
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 3:38pm
My first metal-related band was Led Zeppelin. My mom was really into their music so I was listening to them since I remember but started to really appreciate their stuff when I was 7 or 8 years old. I love them to this day.
Then I got the first album of System of a Down as a kid's day gift, and I was really hooked ! I still think SOAD is a good band. Then my girlfriend [ex-girlfriend, obviously ] got me into Slipknot. I was 14 or 15 at the time and I really liked their insane aggression ... got bored with them a year or two later, when I discovered some REAL metal
Then I started to get into bands that I still listen to. Tool was the first one, then I discovered Opeth's Ghost Reveries, just a few days after the premiere. Some death metal bands like Cryptopsy or Nile. That's the whole story, more or less.
Posted By: rireinc
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2012 at 9:59am
I was in a record store with some extra money and I bought Judas Priest's Painkiller just because I really liked the artwork... I never looked back...
Yeah its dumb but it make my way into heavy and NWOBHM then thrash and then progressive.
Posted By: FallingxSkies
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2012 at 5:10pm
I barely got into rock when I was in 6th grade...before I was your average Usher loving preteen. But I fell in love with Linkin Park (they fell so low!) and then slowly started listening to more hard-core stuff. Friends got me into Manson and Guns n' Roses, BFMV, Metallica and somewhere along the lines I decided I wanted to listen to more hard-core stuff ( Maybe it was part of my rebelling stages playing all that hard-core shit getting my super religious mom pissed) and well now here I am loving the heavyness of metal purely for its amazing "get you pumped" ways ^^
not much of a story but hey that type of music scared me when I was younger so yep came a long way!
Posted By: yossi1986
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 2:55am
if pink floyd are consider as metal, then it becouse of them
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Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 7:39am
well they are not
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 12:36pm
^Even with "Astronomy Domine"? Tun-tun-tun...
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 12:41pm
This is probably the closest Pink Floyd ever came to Metal:
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 3:00pm
yossi1986 wrote:
if pink floyd are consider as metal, then it becouse of them
No . . .
Thats "Meddle"
Or . . .
(btw - THIS is awesome, especially the very end )
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 5:19pm
I'm waiting for someone to explain how metal get into him/her.
By the way, I have to blame either Guns'n'Roses and the 'You Could Be Mine" video (which I saw when I was 13) or my parents who had records and tapes from Deep Purple, Blue �yster Cult, AC/DC, Scorpions and even Moutain.