MIKE PORTNOY LEAVES DT
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Topic: MIKE PORTNOY LEAVES DT
Posted By: CCVP
Subject: MIKE PORTNOY LEAVES DT
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2010 at 8:22pm
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I was going to post this on PA but somebody already did, so I'll post here. Well, he left the band, unfortunately. However, I don't feel that it will be all that bad. Yes managed to go through without Brufford, Wakeman and even Anderson! And every time they did killer albums. Besides, I think that this may also be a great oportunity for them to work as a band, since that now the albums won't have to be the way he wants. I am anxiously awaiting their 2011 release!  Some links: (though they both have the same post)
http://www.facebook.com/notes/mike-portnoy/mike-portnoy-leaves-dream-theater/137362372974878 - http://www.facebook.com/notes/mike-port http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2585154.aspx - http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m25851 -------------   
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2010 at 10:21pm
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Wow. I'm stunned. I better actually read the articles to make sure it's for real. The aftermath could be interesting from a musical standpoint, whether or not DT decide to forge on. For this reason, I can't say I'm very disappointed. Mainly curious. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 12:19am
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 2:28am
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0.0 Holy friggin crap. Never thought I'd see this happen. While I don't personally think his style is that great, he was an integral part of Dream Theater's sound. Now I'm wondering who will fill his shoes. There's a few metal drummers who could replace him (Danny Carey, Blake Richardson) but I hope they don't leave their respective bands. ------------- Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want. |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 2:55am
Ha, I hope there wont be 15 threads about it here  Not like a major member of a band has ever left before...but this was indeed sad news. Was quite a fan of DT and Portnoy. This is was shame, no doubt. I know musicians tire...but avenged sevenfold? WHY MIKE?  ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 5:53am
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I think Kevin Moore�s departure from the band had quite a significant impact on the sound. DT has never sounded the same since.
Replacing Portnoy will also prove extremely difficult. First of all the new drummer will have to be technically outstanding, but he will also have to remember some very long and structurally complicated tracks. We�re talking someone who didn�t smoke too much weed back in the day and forget which day it is today. ( ehhh...btw  )------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 6:08am
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He'll be back.... give it a year or two, and he'll probably return. If not, it certainly will be interesting to see which direction they choose.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 7:37am
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Portnoy was always the extreme metal lover in DT. Can�t wait to hear him play some more extreme music. He has often stated in reviews that he would love to play some more aggressive music.
DT�s future? I can only see a more softer DT after Portnoy�s departure. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 7:50am
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Okay, So maybe theres another thread but I didnt see it . . . Recent Note: CCVP put up a Post of the News 1st: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=950&PN=1 - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=950&PN=1 Thank you for moving this Thread into CCVP's Thread RAFF  . <<<<<<<<<<<<<I'm still shocked and have sent my understanding comment at Portnoys Face Book  .Need to say this (Especially since I put this up)... Something that would be nice to AVOID here is the "Portnoy/DT Bashing band wagon" I see happen everywhere, including at his own website  .If youre gonna' voice an opinion, just be tactful here, be "constructive" and picture this, if You are a Drummer, remember, there will ALWAYS be someone who thinks YOU suck as well, and if youre NOT a drummer . . . well, better take lessons and find out how hard it is to play technical (I'm a Guitarist) or just be "Logical" and think about what you will write . . . dont be an @ssH0l3  .This isnt the YOUtube comments under a Vid and I'd hope youre smarter than a 15 year old Troll !I'll leave my comment here at some point-that you can find within the THOUSANDS of fans that have left their messages . . .  Okay heres what Mike left himself on FaceBook: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theaterby http://www.facebook.com/mikeportnoyofficial - Mike Portnoy on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 5:21pm
Wednesday September 8th 2010 I am about to write something I never imagined I'd ever write: But
I've come to the conclusion that the DT machine was starting to burn me
out...and I really needed a break from the band in order to save my
relationship with the other members and keep my DT spirit hungry and
inspired. Your fearless ex-leader and drummer, MP "Move on be brave, don't weep at my grave, because I am no longer here...  ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 7:57am
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Damn, just left another Post here as well: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=952&PN=1 - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=952&PN=1
Sorry about that  , I guess there are 2 now . . .(Theres a link to a comment by Jordan Rudess as well). To say for now, I hope Mike and Band continue their friendship and that they will re-group at some point, they need the "Hiatus" and get their creative juices flowing again. But to me . . . This is like Neil Peart leaving Rush .More ranting later . . . ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
The Angry Scotsman wrote:Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 8:06am
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Also, Jordan Rudess comments, though why he became the spokesman and not Petrucci or Myung, but anyways I guess someone needed to say something: http://www.jordanrudess.com/jr/ - http://www.jordanrudess.com/jr/ 09/09/2010 DREAM THEATER Press Release To all of our loyal fans and friends: It is with profound sadness -- regret -- we announce that Mike Portnoy, our lifelong drummer and friend, has decided to leave Dream Theater. Mike's stature in the band has meant the world to all of us professionally, musically, and personally over the years. There is no dispute: Mike has been a major force within this band. While it is true that Mike is choosing to pursue other ventures and challenges, we can assure you that Dream Theater will continue to move forward with the same intensity -- and in the same musical tradition -- that you have all helped make so successful, and which is truly gratifying to us. Fans and friends: File this episode under "Black Clouds and Silver Linings."As planned, we begin recording our newest album in January 2011, and we'll follow that with a full-on world tour. "The Spirit Carries On." All of us in Dream Theater wholeheartedly wish Mike the best on his musical journey. We have had a long and meaningful career together. It is our true hope that he finds all he is looking for, and that he achieves the happiness he deserves. He will be missed.  ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 9:13am
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I wonder if this will affect their status on Roadrunner Records. Will the label "force" a drummer on them or anything (I've heard some odd stories about that label)? I've heard people mention Joey Jordison's name, but he'd be a poor fit IMO. If Mike's absence is for more than 1 album, will Roadrunner keep them around? |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 9:15am
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Some how this is both a shock, and not a surprise. I find that as a general rule, I tend to prefer the songs that were written by Petrucci over the songs that were written by Portnoy. The songs that were written by Portnoy never really seemed to work for the band in my ears. I think that part of this has to do with Labrie not really being the right singer for those songs. His voice seems to be more attuned to Petrucci's songs than Portnoy's.
That said, Portnoy is a heck of a metal drummer and his beats will be surely missed by the band. ------------- 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 9:16am
| OK guys, I've moved those two posts in the 'other' thread here, so that they are available to everyone who wants to read and respond to them. There will be a bit of a mess regarding the posting times, but I didn't want to lock the thread outright. Hope that's all right with you! |
Posted By: alberto mu�oz
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 10:08am
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Bad news but i'm really not too fond in DT to be honest... Serious throwback to DT fans...
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 10:32am
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God damn it. I'm stunned.... They'll never be the same without him behind the kit... ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: progshine
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 10:43am
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Indeed, the band needed a break time. It would give them time and space to get some fresh air. But...
Well, waiting for next 'Transatlantics' projects :) ------------- Testing 1...2...3.. RAY, IT'S NOT WORKING! www.progshine.net Your resource of Prog Rock with weekly Podcasts, reviews, interviews and many more. 
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 1:08pm
Thanks Raff you did a beautiful job.  ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 1:18pm
I think not. They are one of the biggest bands in Roadrunner, that would be ludicrous. Unlike their times in Atco/Eastwest/Warner, where they were just another fish in the ocean, now they are a big fish in a small lake. Pretty improbable IMO. -------------
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 1:42pm
You're probably right. There would probably need to be a significant drop in album sales for RR to drop Dream Theater. Probably their fans are too loyal to let that happen, but I bet some RR execs are still going to lose a significant amount of sleep over this. |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 3:52pm
The name Joey Jordison is always the Brick to a Glass House I think Joey should also be everyPlumber, Insurance Salesmen and Astronaut as well . . .How about a "Drummer"? Ha! Juss KEEDING!!!  (maybe...).I dont want to THINK of who to replace Portnoy just yet because I just think they all need a break, and tempers are flaring because this is a band that started with, Myung, Petrucci, Portnoy (and Moore respectively), room-mates that get tired of each other and want their own "space". Now they will have it and it will either be a comfortable change or a phantom limb . . . I dont want to think who a replacement (God thats awful) would be but I HAVE  , Ive haddiscussions already with a few friends-as far as names, the 2 that stood out were Virgil Donati and Mark Zonder, as we want to think this may be a "1 Album thing" and the guys will come back together. But there are SOOO many Drummers out there, that I think they need to find an unknown who has the chops and needs a break, I see him as the "Derek Sherinian" of DT, 1 album (and an EP) and then he goes off to make a fortune on his own and other Projects-takes it all in as a learning experience . . . but hey, they may like each other and WE may like "him" as well. I dont believe Roadrunner is that type of Label to enforce some sort of "Sort it out or Get Out" policy with DT, DT knows better to sign a Contract like that from their "Falling Into Infinity" sessions and the Years with Elektra/Atco. And RR knows the future value of DT, even if unknown-they will have an investment of a creative future and be part of its new adventure into the unknown creatively. I want Portnoy back, but I want them all to have a break and come back when they are creatively ready and not be under any duress. I guess I'll save more for later, I'm a fan of each member and from the past, they ALL fit DT in my opinion and all have had experiences that they have taken and become even better musicians. All are virtuoso's and so is Portnoy and his style of Drumming that was tailor made for DT . . . well, it was his band with Petrucci and Myung, he can do what he wants cant he (and I believe he was gracious enough to be as sensitive as possible to let themembers of DT carry on the Dream Theater banner, yes-the "Biz" may force that contractualy, but I know that Mike wants to stay away from "Yes VS ABWH/Chris Squire VS Jon Anderson" territory and keep the friendships bonded by blood, sweat, tears and success).  Oh and by the way, their are alot of Bands on RR's label that dont go anywhere or have "Cult Followings", so I dont think this situation at all hurts DT in the slightest, only that they lose a friend and Icon behind their Kit and sound .------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 4:10pm
Sales wise the band is actually doing the best in almost 15 years (6th on billboard on the first week), topping artists and bands that are more known and popular. Only if they dropped really bad sales wise the label may say something, IMO. But as you said, they have a considerable cult following (me included ).-------------
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 4:59pm
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Oh the parrallels between Dream Theater and Toto seems to never end, and now DT is faced with the task of replace an ireplaceable member ( a drummer), Toto was forced to replace an Irreplaceable drummer, the Heart and Soul of the band (David Paich was the brain, Jeff was the heart and Soul, the other were asked to joyn in Toto is Dave and Jeff), a new Drummer maight indicate a change in focuspoint, new direction, new groove, new voice in the band refreshment.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 7:15pm
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On a slightly related note, I stumbled upon this interview where Portnoy discusses some of his recent activities. It's weird hearing him discuss the future of DT that he now won't be a part of, and he talks about wanting to stop writing DT lyrics as he has lots of other things going on. http://vimeo.com/14827294 - http://vimeo.com/14827294 |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 8:52pm
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^ Interesting...
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 3:43am
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Never gonna happen, but I'd like to hear DT with Mark Zonder behind the kit.
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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 4:13am
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As always, My extended "Prog Family" at PrOgulus weighed in on it all and had great comments, opinions and "suggestions", which you can read here: http://www.progulus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=618 - http://www.progulus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=618 > progulus.com ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 5:34am
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I think DT can easily find someone who can replicate MP's parts, but they'll never find someone with the same level of engagement and creativity.
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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 6:22am
Agree!  . . . waaaAAAAAAAaaaaa!!! ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 6:30am
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Would be cool if MP joined FW ;-)
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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 6:47am
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Alder stays with Redemption and John Arch comes back when Portnoy demands to play more Thrashier Prog ala' Awaken the Guardian/No Exit ! Then the DT Family Tree decides to do a Prog Fest! WOOHOO! . . . everyone is happy again !------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 6:58am
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Heheheheh..... I quite like Ray Alder though, but I still am very very impressed with John Arch's solo EP; his voice is just fantastic. Anyway, I hope that MP and DT will sort it out eventually; I think that he'll rejoin the band at some point. Maybe it's a bit like Dave Lombardo leaving Slayer only to return re-inspired and re-invigorated after having done some other stuff.
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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 7:10am
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Ray Alder has been awesome with Fates Warning . I know they are working on a new album apparently with Frank Aresti (WOOOOHOOO!) back on 2nd Guitar and Bobby Jarzombek on Drums!!!!! ------------- "If you're happy to be an Ant in the Sand Box, you're welcome to it!" -Forbidden For Progressive Metal and Prog Rock, come visit, request songs and explore at PrOgulus.com |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 7:15am
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Wicked! :-)
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 9:09am
I hope this is true. I haven't heard anything about Fates Warning in the studio for a while. I've only been listening to FW for around 3-4 years, so I'm really looking forward to enjoying a new release for the first time as a fan. |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 9:27am
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I hope it'll be more in the vein of their 90s stuff than their 00s stuff.
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Posted By: kogaionon
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 3:13pm
| while the last albums were composed by portnoy and petrucci, this news makes me think if the next albums will sound better than black lines or some other images/awake ripoff |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 3:01pm
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In related news, DT will supposedly audition seven hand-picked drummers in two week's time: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=147378 - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=147378 |