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The Angry Scotsman
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Keep it safe, legal, and rare is what I currently like to go with! Despite my jumbly feelings..in the end I just couldn't say "make it illegal" Oh god did someone REALLY say that? (And mean it) I do find it so sad how most of our fellow Americans are quick to throw freedom of speech around, but only seem to apply it to themselves/can't realize it has be all or nothing. "WBC is fucked up, but unless they physically harm someone they can't be stopped" "ZOMG you want all gays to die!?" ... Edited by The Angry Scotsman - 07 Jun 2011 at 7:34pm |
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J-Man
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I'm against abortion from a moral standpoint, but I tend to think it's something that should be legal. That's like saying "if you support the Westboro Baptist Church's protection under the first ammendment, you support homophobia!". I've been told that before too. |
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Andyman1125
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My religion teacher once told me if I was pro-choice I was pro-abortion. I lol'd.
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The Angry Scotsman
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Check the libertarian thread. You can find some real winners in there. Last I saw they were talking abortion there. Ironically enough the usual insane ones are pretty sane It is great that we are small, (and cool) enough to talk about this stuff as well as genre related things with pretty much no problem. MMA ftw Edited by The Angry Scotsman - 07 Jun 2011 at 6:14pm |
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J-Man
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I can only imagine where a thread like this would go on PA.... |
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The Angry Scotsman
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Might as well, this has been 9000X cleaner, more respectful and sane than anything on PA. And metal heads are supposed to be the closed minded stupid ones Edited by The Angry Scotsman - 07 Jun 2011 at 1:56am |
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Any Colour You Like
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Oh sh-
I'm not even touching this. |
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cannon
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Pro choice. A girl I was with during my 20's had three abortions. Basically it was her choice and well it should be. My input, for what is was worth was to have the abortions.The third time she let it go late into the pregnancy(I never did find out the reason why) and had to go over to Vancouver to have the procedure done.
On my way over there(via ferry) I passed a billboard about abortion and then when I was on the ferry a couple was talking about it. This lead me to very heavy heart.
I arrived at the clinic only to find protesters outside. Man oh man, for some reason and even until this day I can't come up with a reason why I was so friggin' scarred. It took everything I had to walk through that line into the clinic and also knowing that there her mom was there also(wasn't the reason I was terrified, she was a great lady).
Of course in hindsight it was the right thing to do. Edited by cannon - 02 Jun 2011 at 11:13pm |
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Andyman1125
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This.
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J-Man
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I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here (), but why is abortion the only answer in that scenario? Of course, I agree that starving children is a huge problem... but is the best solution then to kill the fetus? I'm still somewhat unsure of my stance on this issue, but I think getting an abortion for that reason alone is immoral. If abortion actually is murder (which I'm not completely sure if it is or isn't ) then it should be treated as such. Should we kill starving children because they're going hungry? And if not, why is acceptable before birth? Again, this isn't necessarily my position - I'm just playing devil's advocate. |
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SKwid
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the popo will find my cheese pizza
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The Angry Scotsman
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It is a sticky wicket, I also want to say as a man I kind of have to be pro choice because it's not even mine to make.
Unless I was in the unfortunate situation of having my input asked. It's just so complicated. Stupid teen going around having sex because they can just abort it...a married couple who happened to have an accident (happens we know) but with jobs, a house, etc a young couple who had an accident and don't have the means to support one. ugh...yeah my official opinion is still I have absolutely no fucking clue. |
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Balthamel
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as an unrelated note, I would like to shoot in that when i was in a theater in York with the Lexicology class, we was offerd the upper seats, which was like the thrid balcony, and it was really far up, and me who have the worsed fear of hights ever, breathed heavyely, but as I noticed in the cealing of the theater was a HUGE light globe, light crone (something), and I was very happy I did not sit in the lower seats, and I said if that falls i am happy i sat this far upp, Edited by Balthamel - 25 May 2011 at 3:24am |
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J-Man
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^ You're even more of a libertarian than I am!
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Triceratopsoil
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J-Man
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So you don't care about law enforcement then? |
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J-Man
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You know the entire religious vs. secular debate when it comes to abortion really baffles me. Nowhere in the Bible does it even reference abortion... it seems odd to me that almost all Christians are opposed to abortion when this opposition isn't obtained through their religious text. |
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Triceratopsoil
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Yep pretty much. I live in this year's murder capital of Canada and yet as long as they don't shoot me I can't be arsed. |
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J-Man
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I don't completely disagree with you (actually I do sorta agree), but under this same topic, should I not care about murder because it's none of my business? I'm playing the devil's advocate here, but I'm just wondering what your insight is here. |
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SKwid
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honestly, i think that what people do to themselves or their unborn children is their business, and i really don't give a fuck about other peoples business and i don't see why other people do.
im neither pro-life or pro-choice, im pro-WhoTheFuckCares, because i certainly dont
Edited by SKwid - 24 May 2011 at 2:12am |
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