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Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

Going to correct you all before this gets too deep: djent is not a genre.  The word "djent" itself is onomatopoeia that's used to describe the characteristic tight, punchy sound of a low-tuned guitar with strong pick attack, a tone more or less pioneered by Meshuggah and popularized today by the likes of prog metal acts such as Periphery, Animals as Leaders, TesseracT, Cloudkicker, et al.  It's much more of a tight, rounded "bwwaaaaaoowwhhhh" than your typical chugging noise, and the tone is usually helped with heavy use of digital modification and the assistance of seven or eight-string guitars.

It's become inappropriately associated with a genre in and of itself because a number of the forerunning "djent bands" have a style that incorporates similar elements, most noticeably heavy use of polyrhythmic metering and syncopation in the riffing and oftentimes metalcore or deathcore tendencies.  It's spawned a burgeoning underground scene of closet guitar geeks and has been propagated by swapping riffs and numerating project after project through the internet.  It's an undeniably cool concept but one that I feel at this point has been done to death by misrepresentation (something I'm guilty of myself) and the insurmountable number of cookie-cutter bands and solo projects that pop up like weeds.

It's a tone, folks, nothing more.  The forerunning bands that implement this tone are among my absolute favorites (sh*t, I'm an 8 string guitarist myself), but once you get past those select few amazing bands there's almost nothing to find worth listening to.


I'm no expert on what is or isn't "djent", but I have never been a big fan of the name.  Some bands (Meshuggah, Animals as Leaders) I'm definitely a fan of.

Just curious if anyone knows where this term came into existence, not just what its based off of.

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Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

Going to correct you all before this gets too deep: djent is not a genre.  The word "djent" itself is onomatopoeia that's used to describe the characteristic tight, punchy sound of a low-tuned guitar with strong pick attack, a tone more or less pioneered by Meshuggah and popularized today by the likes of prog metal acts such as Periphery, Animals as Leaders, TesseracT, Cloudkicker, et al.  It's much more of a tight, rounded "bwwaaaaaoowwhhhh" than your typical chugging noise, and the tone is usually helped with heavy use of digital modification and the assistance of seven or eight-string guitars.

It's become inappropriately associated with a genre in and of itself because a number of the forerunning "djent bands" have a style that incorporates similar elements, most noticeably heavy use of polyrhythmic metering and syncopation in the riffing and oftentimes metalcore or deathcore tendencies.  It's spawned a burgeoning underground scene of closet guitar geeks and has been propagated by swapping riffs and numerating project after project through the internet.  It's an undeniably cool concept but one that I feel at this point has been done to death by misrepresentation (something I'm guilty of myself) and the insurmountable number of cookie-cutter bands and solo projects that pop up like weeds.

It's a tone, folks, nothing more.  The forerunning bands that implement this tone are among my absolute favorites (sh*t, I'm an 8 string guitarist myself), but once you get past those select few amazing bands there's almost nothing to find worth listening to.


I'm no expert on what is or isn't "djent", but I have never been a big fan of the name.  Some bands (Meshuggah, Animals as Leaders) I'm definitely a fan of.

Just curious if anyone knows where this term came into existence, not just what its based off of.


I think Bulb (Misha Mansoor of Periphery) popularized the term.
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^I heard it was Fredrik from Meshuggah
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Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

^I heard it was Fredrik from Meshuggah

IIRC the term originated on the Meshuggah message boards, as did Periphery itself.
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Apparently, Fredrik Thordendal coined the term, but it was later made popular by Bulb, at least according to got-djent's about section.
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Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Apparently, Fredrik Thordendal coined the term, but it was later made popular by Bulb, at least according to got-djent's about section.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A Person Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 2011 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Apparently, Fredrik Thordendal coined the term, but it was later made popular by Bulb, at least according to got-djent's about section.

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LOL

And just for fun, a Michael Jackson cover:

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It may be onomatopoeia, but it's term as a genre is growing. It's certainly a lot easier to refer to all the "djent" bands rather than the "polymetric post-thrashy groove/metalcore" bands. It's a way to get all of them under one umbrella.

And for the record, "ska" is onomatopoeia as well.Wink
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Here's a definition from Urban Dictionary. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=djent
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SHLUH SHLUH SHLUH SHLUH SHLUH


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Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

It may be onomatopoeia, but it's term as a genre is growing. It's certainly a lot easier to refer to all the "djent" bands rather than the "polymetric post-thrashy groove/metalcore" bands. It's a way to get all of them under one umbrella.

This is true, but I still think I prefer the term as the onomatopoeia.  Kinda bugs me that this style has become big enough to warrant its own genre.  I like it much more as a flavoring or a niche thing in music than as an entire underground genre.
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^ It's true that it's rather niche-y, but apparently there's room for a ton of fans of a punk-based genre where all the guitar riffing is on the up-beat (ska), which still is rather niche-y to me. There's also, among other things, polka metal, zeuhl, and d-beat, which you have to admit sound pretty niche-y but somehow have their own fanbase.
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

SHLUH SHLUH SHLUH SHLUH SHLUH




Isn't that post-metal? Tongue
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Why is that post metal?
Inexistence is the true normality.
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

SHLUH SHLUH SHLUH SHLUH SHLUH




Isn't that post-metal? Tongue


Actually, come to think of it, that does sort of look like a Neurosis song Headbanger


It depends how quickly you read it


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LOL
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Ha, KNEW Kevin would beast this topic.


Djent was more or less crafted by Meshuggah. It's those riffs that I originally described as "falling off" though djent is much better. (Kinda the sound it makes).

Now there are dozens, probably much more we don't know, of bands that are either Meshuggah ripoffs or some technical metal/core type thing using a lot of djenty riffs.

Just a style, not a genre LOL
Seriously, no "djent" band sounds unique in terms of genre. They are all easily classifiable as some type of metal (prog, avant, core, technical) whatever. Please, no need for a sub genre that really does not exist.
Simply a style of riffing these bands use alot.


Edited by The Angry Scotsman - 29 Jan 2011 at 8:42pm
Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal!



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btw i didn't see it mentioend above djent refers to the sound the guitar makes when playing the shords and notes to make up these rifs it makes a "djent" noise as opposed to a "chug" noise you get it other forms of metal
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Originally posted by paroxix paroxix wrote:

btw i didn't see it mentioend above djent refers to the sound the guitar makes when playing the shords and notes to make up these rifs it makes a "djent" noise as opposed to a "chug" noise you get it other forms of metal

IMO that doesnt qualify it for a sub-genre 


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i was explaining where the name comes from btw pardon my terrible spelling
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