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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Nevertheless, it's still fair to say that there's metal drumming before Metallica, and then there's metal drumming after, even if it's only months after, or if someone was doing it first, but didn't record it until after... Not even Jaguar, Vardis or any of the other speed freaks of the NWoBHM got the drumming quite right for full-blown thrash. 
 
There are all sorts of ideas on the first 4 albums which may be accidental, but are perfect for the music - and make an important contribution to the fact that Metallica's first 4 albums are among the most influential in metal history. Lars may have "bashed the wossname" out of the drums, but on tracks like "Fight Fire With Fire", someone is drumming amazingly to my non-drummer ears.
 
No, influential <> good, but it has to be some sort of "good" to be influential, and some sort of "very good" to be "very influential".
 
So to me, at least, Lars is one of the greatest drummers - and I could care a great deal more about technique. Technique is technique, and good playing is something quite different.
 
On Lombardo, surely he has at least two drum styles? There's the style he used on "Criminally Insane" for the intro, and the style he used for the rest of the song... LOL
 
Style doesn't have to evolve or be technically amazing, it only needs to be good. Ahem. AC/DC. Case closed.


You have a valid reason to like Lars. The reason we may be elitists though is because of all the Metallica fanboys who state that Lars is the "best drummer ever", or whatnot, where quite frankly he isn't anything special technique wise. He doesn't really have any technical expertise, and he isn't particularly fast, especially when compared to other thrash drummers at the time. Not to mention he's a bit sloppy, especially in one studio documentary where they had to bring in another player for one track. In his case, I'd say he's just an overrated drummer, and because so many say he's good the naysayers are biased against him.

If I had to state my opinion, he's nothing really more than your average drummer playing in a very influential band.
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Brann Dailor gets my vote


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Of course drumming doesn't have to be amazing to be good.

As I said, the point of a drummer is to keep the rhythm, throw down something else once in a while. If you hit the crap out of em even better.

I'm a ok with that. BUT I prefer a bit more is all.


On that note, listened to a good bit of Sepultura today.
Igor was one hell of a drummer!

Also, Van Williams from Nevermore still blows my mind! Shame he, and Jeff Loomis, are on one of the more obscure bands (though they seem to be getting bigger).


Edited by The Angry Scotsman - 24 Jan 2011 at 2:32am
Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal!



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Portnoy sealed the deal on this list for me
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Martin Lopez!!!
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Originally posted by Prog Geo Prog Geo wrote:

Martin Lopez!!!


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hard to choose, for now

I would've put Mark Zonder on the list - excellent drummer if you ask me...
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Mike Portney really excels, also like Skyclad drummer Arron Walton.
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Lombardo, one of the few metal drummers with a signature sound and style.
I was in fact just listening to him Smile

I also like that dude that kicked Judas Priest back in shape in 1990, don't remember the name and too lazy to reach for the CD.
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Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:


Lombardo, one of the few metal drummers with a signature sound and style.
I was in fact just listening to him Smile

I also like that dude that kicked Judas Priest back in shape in 1990, don't remember the name and too lazy to reach for the CD.



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^ Yes! I need to put on some Fight next !


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Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

I also like that dude that kicked Judas Priest back in shape in 1990, don't remember the name and too lazy to reach for the CD.


That would be Scott Travis. I find him to be a rather dull drummer, especially on the newer releases. On "Painkiller" he did his job well.

It's really hard to pick out just one, and there are a couple of names I thought someone would have already mentioned but are missing. From those on the list, I would probably go for Jason Rullo, who really is left in Portnoy's shadow for no real reason. Not that Portnoy is bad, a great drummer also.

But for the ones no-one has mentioned would be:

Mikkey Dee, especially in his King Diamond days. His drumming really adds more value to the tracks on the first four King albums, most notably on "Them".King Diamond wasn't quite the same after he left. His playing in Mot�rhead is quite different, but tight as hell and fits to the bands music like a glove.

Thomen Stauch from Blind Guardian has also added much to BG's music. Very interesting stuff in some parts rhytmically, special mention for the albums "Imaginations From the Other Side" and "A Night at the Opera", where his drumming is not just drumming, it belongs to the songs. Changing the drum tracks would be almost as bad in some parts as changing the vocal melodies. Yet again, Blind Guardian isn't the same band after they lost Thomen.

Nigel Glockler of Saxon fame. This one is even more of a personal favourite than Thomen (Mikkey, I think, is quite respected drummer, correct me if I'm wrong), but man those drumfills he did in the 80's Saxon albums, they sound somehow so organic and fluent. A hint of the 70's perhaps? Very groovy sticksman.

And ofcourse as a huge Iron Maiden fan I am compelled to mention Nicko McBrain, whose prime was on the "Somewhere in Time" and "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son"-albums. Has gone a bit dull on the 21st century records, but still one of the first drummers I really was amazed of.

Not the most technical or the fastest players in the world, but what they "lack" in comparison to some more modern drummers they win back in style and taste. I should include Cozy Powell, but there was a gentleman who already mentioned him.
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Originally posted by The Air Loom The Air Loom wrote:

^ LittleBig, love your avatar!
Mike Portney really excels, also like Skyclad drummer Arron Walton.


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Mike Portnoy and Danny Carey. Voted for the first one though.


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Mike Portnoy.
 
Not just the best Metal drummer, but the best drummer, period.
 
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^^ just a reply to both the above posts. Does anyone know where Mike Portnoy will be in the next year, and who will be his replacement in DT? Confused


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I think Dream Theater has yet to announce their latest drummer. They've been having auditions though.
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Gene Hoglan! First post.

I'll explain later!
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Second post; the explanation.

Gene Hoglan is half the majesty of Darkness Descends. His uber thrash drumming on that album really set a new standard for the genre and the instrument. It was fast, it was ferocious, it was perfect for the album.

He then went on and became the driving force behind Dark Angel and turned them into a tech-thrash but heavy as stonehedge band. I am a great fan of Leave Scars. Not just a drummer then. Still on top of his game.

DEATH. Oh boy. I need a parenthesis here to make myself clear. My favourite singers are Robert Lowe of Solitude Aeturnus, Kai Hansen (esp. in Helloween) and Hansi Kursch. Yet, I *know* that the best metal singer is Dio (shh, let me just say my thing!) and the best singer ever is Freddie Mercury. 

Similarly, the best drummer *I* have ever heard is Steve Gadd, known for his work with Chick Corea (known to me at least). Now Gene Hoglan was on a Steve Gadd trip at the time Chuck called him to play on Individual Thought Patterns. And then there was much rejoice. My favourite Death album (which happens to be my favourite band, all things considered) and Gene's drumming is yet again setting new standards. Technically fluent, musically beautiful, progressively awesome. Lots of cymbal work, switching pedals, that turbo double bass drumming and that weird prop *clink* sound to provide icing on the awesome drumcake.

Same thing for Symbolic. Again, the album is the perfect vehicle for Gene's progressive playing years (which started on Leave Scars, solidified in Time Does Not Heal and became godlike on the Death albums!). Great songs that are even more enhanced by the very original drum parts. Crystal Mountain? That sort of thing.

And then, in 1997, I bought Strapping Young Lad's City just because Gene Hoglan was on it. It was not the first time I did that. I even have an atrocious Old Man's Child album (and I really don't listen to black metal-ish stuff) because he plays on it (he doesn't save it btw). City, however, was one of the best 90s albums that I came across.

And it showcases Gene's adaptability. Again, that album benefits so much from Gene's playing. Especially the double bass drumming, in its stupendous precision and speed adds so much to the industrial mechanical vibe of the whole album. Perfection.

For these works, Gene Hoglan is my favourite. And I haven't mentioned helping out Dave Lombardo in his early years (THE thrash drummer btw and my second favourite), being on the  Savage Grace album cover and being an overall awesome dude.

Someone vote for Sean Reinert! Please! 
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Honourable mentions:

Mikkey Dee: He should be on that list.  Top 5 drummer in my book.

Greg Hall (Sacred Reich): odd choice, but I simply adore his drumming on the first two Sacred Reich albums. Great sound, great feel, very underrated dude.

Uli Kusch: Along with Thomen Stauch, one of the very, very few drummers who play european power metal and don't make it sound boring and cliche. Kind of like the antithesis of Jorg Michael (Running Wild years onwards of course, he was great in Mekong Delta!)

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Re: Lars Ulrich

YES, he was a great drummer. He was not *the* greatest drummer and certainly not the most difficult to play but he managed to become recognizable and an integral part of the band. His drum fills and little nuances he does on Puppets-Black Album era are really great imo. And he was doing really well technically up to the Black Album. I saw him live on the Black Album tour and he was FINE. I mean speed, feet, the whole deal. Then as we all know, he simply got bored being a drummer and fell in love with being a rock star. Staying away from a drumkit for months (in his own words), playing just the basics, rock drumming... Of course when he tries to play the Justice tunes he is going to mess them up. A real shame. I saw him on the Big 4 gig in Athens and he was TERRIBLE. Cringeworthy.

It was however quite astonishing to see how the rest of the band manage to compensate for his random timing. They *know* he is going to hit that crash cymbal juuust a bit quicker than he is supposed to and the whole band synchronizes. Weird.
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