Abortion

Good thing MMA is so slow still...we don't need this one to explode 

Sounds like a cop out but I am 100% sincere:
I just don't know.
Mulled it over a long time and have spent times on both sides of the fence, but always took down my camp to walk to the other side!

My gut says: "pro life" I kind of hate that term but my mind wants to say "You know it would still continue, lets be realistic" so make it as safe as possible.

There are of course the situations like rape, where one can wonder if forcing her to keep it is morally wrong. It was unasked for, unwanted, forced upon her...she would have to carry it, birth it (no walk in the park!) and either raise it or put it up for adoption, 100% due to an outside circumstance. In this scenario who knows the impact on adoption it would have.
Oh, also what about different stages of pregnancy? At the very undeveloped level is it permissible?
A sticky wicket that I honestly have no damn clue where I stand yet.


And yes, coming from someone who is secular and anti religious. Kind of scary how it has become almost divided as a religious/secular thing...given what is at hand I do hope it gets thought about and not just carried along! I used to go about it without thought being a good liberal...but I have a deep respect for all life (Ive been called a hippie too many times) so I never felt right being 100% dedicated to "pro choice"
GAH! I went on too long again

I'm pro-choice. Abortion is a complex social issue, and having an abortion is not, to me, per se immoral.In fact, I think that strict pro-life is immoral.

There�s no need to bring a new life into this world if you are not able to take care of it. We have enough homeless, starving kids without parents or with parents that are not able to provide them with love and care in this world already. People against abortion usually have this standpoint out of a religious belief, but IMO that doesn�t qualify as a good reason. We are animals, and just because we have a more evolved brain than most animals do, we shouldn�t let morals or religious bogus get in the way of rational acts. If you can�t take care of your child for whatever reason, you shouldn�t have it!

The Angry Scotsman wrote: Good thing MMA is so slow still...we don't need this one to explode  Sounds like a cop out but I am 100% sincere: I just don't know. Mulled it over a long time and have spent times on both sides of the fence, but always took down my camp to walk to the other side! My gut says: "pro life" I kind of hate that term but my mind wants to say "You know it would still continue, lets be realistic" so make it as safe as possible. There are of course the situations like rape, where one can wonder if forcing her to keep it is morally wrong. It was unasked for, unwanted, forced upon her...she would have to carry it, birth it (no walk in the park!) and either raise it or put it up for adoption, 100% due to an outside circumstance. In this scenario who knows the impact on adoption it would have. Oh, also what about different stages of pregnancy? At the very undeveloped level is it permissible? A sticky wicket that I honestly have no damn clue where I stand yet. And yes, coming from someone who is secular and anti religious. Kind of scary how it has become almost divided as a religious/secular thing...given what is at hand I do hope it gets thought about and not just carried along! I used to go about it without thought being a good liberal...but I have a deep respect for all life (Ive been called a hippie too many times) so I never felt right being 100% dedicated to "pro choice" GAH! I went on too long again In an ideal world...make sure the support, education, and facilities will always be there so the number can be reduced to only the emergencies. Keep it legal, safe and rare. For my political run in the future

You know, I actually agree with almost all of this! Considering that abortions will occur no matter what, the best solution is to try and keep people educated and keep the procedure as safe as possible. I'm morally opposed to abortion (I couldn't ever imagine supporting someone I love getting an abortion), but I think it should probably be legal. My stance on the legal/illegal debate is fairly unstable... I just know that I don't support it, and I'd like to keep abortion to a minimum (by providing education, birth control, etc.).

I'm pro-killing unborn babies.

honestly, i think that what people do to themselves or their unborn children is their business, and i really don't give a fuck about other peoples business and i don't see why other people do. 

Edited by SKwid - 24 May 2011 at 2:12am

J-Man wrote:   should I not care about murder because it's none of my business?

Yep pretty much.  I live in this year's murder capital of Canada and yet as long as they don't shoot me I can't be arsed.

Triceratopsoil wrote: J-Man wrote:   should I not care about murder because it's none of my business? Yep pretty much.  I live in this year's murder capital of Canada and yet as long as they don't shoot me I can't be arsed.

So you don't care about law enforcement then?

^ You're even more of a libertarian than I am! 

It is a sticky wicket, I also want to say as a man I kind of have to be pro choice because it's not even mine to make.
Unless I was in the unfortunate situation of  having my input asked.
It's just so complicated.
Stupid teen going around having sex because they can just abort it...a married couple who happened to have an accident (happens we know) but with jobs, a house, etc a young couple who had an accident and don't have the means to support one.

ugh...yeah my official opinion is still I have absolutely no fucking clue.