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    Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 2:00am
Though I do not personally enjoy Nickelbacks music I am well aware that they are oft well hated on in the metal community, and indeed just as much so, if not more outside. What I am curious of, is what they have done to deserve this criticism.
From what I can tell, it's fundamentally due to them being ridiculously successful despite rehashing the same song structure and style over and over again. While I'm not one for the redundant way of creating music, I don't treat them with too much animosity.
So, this topic is basically just a place where I guess for those who have heard of their work to share their views as well as their opinions on how they are frequently bashed for their artistic choices.
I just thought of this, because Nickelback is indeed on these archives.


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I�ve only listened to the "hits" so I can�t comment on the body of their work. Personally I usually find mainstream rock/heavy rock boring as hell (especially song structures), and Nickelback (the songs that I�ve heard) fall under that catagory.
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I think it's probably the lack of ambition that I find boring, and that'd be in the song structure department most prominently. It definitely seems to lack substance.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvujgcbaCF8
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It�s also too clean and polished for my tastes, lacking bite and aggression.
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Originally posted by IMPF2112 IMPF2112 wrote:

Note the word 'civil' in the topic title.
So I gather you feel there are no redeeming factors whatsoever?
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Originally posted by renkls renkls wrote:

Originally posted by IMPF2112 IMPF2112 wrote:

Note the word 'civil' in the topic title.
So I gather you feel there are no redeeming factors whatsoever?

yes. absolutely.
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Not much to discuss - metal community hates sell outs.

Edited by bartosso - 09 Sep 2012 at 11:14am
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Too bland for my tastes.  At times, they've sound like a watered down Alice In Chains.  At others, a watered-down Metallica.  The Canadian content rules on the radio/tv shove this band down our throats up here, not to mention a ton of other mediocre rock acts.  I don't understand how radio/tv doesn't fill their Canadian quota with a variety of bands instead of the same 5 at any given time.  I thought payola was supposed to be illegal/dead. Angry
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Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Not much to discuss - metal community hates sell outs.

>implying they were ever good to begin with
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Originally posted by IMPF2112 IMPF2112 wrote:

Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Not much to discuss - metal community hates sell outs.

>implying they were ever good to begin with
I don't know, I actually meant that they're just making music for money and nothing else, probably misused the word "sell out" here (?)
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Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Originally posted by IMPF2112 IMPF2112 wrote:

Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Not much to discuss - metal community hates sell outs.

>implying they were ever good to begin with
I don't know, I actually meant that they're just making music for money and nothing else, probably misused the word "sell out" here (?)


Yeah, selling out means that a band or artist changes their style of music to fit the current trend in order to make more money.  See Metallica's Black Album, the latest Korn album, etc.

To me, Nickelback is just another radio rock band spearheading the post-grunge movement that was really popular at the start of the 2000s.  I don't really pay attention to that sort of thing because I don't listen to the radio at all, but I just thought it was funny how much they were being promoted last year after being basically irrelevant for the previous 3.  If anything, they stand out just because they're a bunch of douchebags, and not for any musical reasons.
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Originally posted by Diogenes Diogenes wrote:

Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Originally posted by IMPF2112 IMPF2112 wrote:

Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Not much to discuss - metal community hates sell outs.

>implying they were ever good to begin with
I don't know, I actually meant that they're just making music for money and nothing else, probably misused the word "sell out" here (?)


Yeah, selling out means that a band or artist changes their style of music to fit the current trend in order to make more money.  See Metallica's Black Album, the latest Korn album, etc.

To me, Nickelback is just another radio rock band spearheading the post-grunge movement that was really popular at the start of the 2000s.  I don't really pay attention to that sort of thing because I don't listen to the radio at all, but I just thought it was funny how much they were being promoted last year after being basically irrelevant for the previous 3.  If anything, they stand out just because they're a bunch of douchebags, and not for any musical reasons.

I'm assuming you don't live in Canada, because here everyone treats them as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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Originally posted by Diogenes Diogenes wrote:

Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Originally posted by IMPF2112 IMPF2112 wrote:

Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Not much to discuss - metal community hates sell outs.

>implying they were ever good to begin with
I don't know, I actually meant that they're just making music for money and nothing else, probably misused the word "sell out" here (?)


Yeah, selling out means that a band or artist changes their style of music to fit the current trend in order to make more money.  
Then how do you call a band that begins their career with a style that fits the current trend in order to make big money from the very beginning?Wink
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Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Originally posted by Diogenes Diogenes wrote:

Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Originally posted by IMPF2112 IMPF2112 wrote:

Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Not much to discuss - metal community hates sell outs.

>implying they were ever good to begin with
I don't know, I actually meant that they're just making music for money and nothing else, probably misused the word "sell out" here (?)


Yeah, selling out means that a band or artist changes their style of music to fit the current trend in order to make more money.  
Then how do you call a band that begins their career with a style that fits the current trend in order to make big money from the very beginning?Wink

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Along with what's been mentioned, Chad Kroeger has an objectively bad singing voice.  It's just gross.

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I'm assuming you don't live in Canada, because here everyone treats them as the greatest thing since sliced bread.


I live in Canada and have never met somebody who likes Nickelback... or at least not enough to admit it.
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Nickelback is one of those bands where they are just so painfully mediocre that it's tough to have any respect for them. Sure, I guess they aren't completely atrocious, but the fact that they sell millions of records for being below average is mind-blowing. I'd take them over most of the popular shit out there these days, but that isn't saying very much...
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Originally posted by IMPF2112 IMPF2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Diogenes Diogenes wrote:

Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Originally posted by IMPF2112 IMPF2112 wrote:

Originally posted by bartosso bartosso wrote:

Not much to discuss - metal community hates sell outs.

>implying they were ever good to begin with
I don't know, I actually meant that they're just making music for money and nothing else, probably misused the word "sell out" here (?)


Yeah, selling out means that a band or artist changes their style of music to fit the current trend in order to make more money.  See Metallica's Black Album, the latest Korn album, etc.

To me, Nickelback is just another radio rock band spearheading the post-grunge movement that was really popular at the start of the 2000s.  I don't really pay attention to that sort of thing because I don't listen to the radio at all, but I just thought it was funny how much they were being promoted last year after being basically irrelevant for the previous 3.  If anything, they stand out just because they're a bunch of douchebags, and not for any musical reasons.

I'm assuming you don't live in Canada, because here everyone treats them as the greatest thing since sliced bread.


Nope.  That's a shame to hear though.  There are so many talented artists up there, but Canada seems to get a bad rap for the few garbage ones.
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