BOTCH — We Are The Romans

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Album · 1999

Filed under Mathcore
By BOTCH

Tracklist


1. To Our Friends in the Great White North (05:10)
2. Mondrian Was a Liar (02:41)
3. Transitions From Persona to Object (06:04)
4. Swimming the Channel vs. Driving the Chunnel (04:30)
5. C. Thomas Howell as the "Soul Man" (04:44)
6. Saint Matthew Returns to the Womb (03:04)
7. Frequency Ass Bandit (04:26)
8. I Wanna Be a Sex Symbol on My Own Terms (03:35)
9. Man the Ramparts (10:50)
10. Thank God for Worker Bees (remix) (07:27)

Total Time 52:35


2007 Deluxe edition – bonus CD:

We Are The Romans Demos:
1. To Our Friends In The Great White North (Demo) / Canada Song AKA "Tasting Like A Hot Lunch In Amsterdam" (05:17)
2. I Wanna Be A Sex Symbol On My Own Terms (Demo) / Latin Song (03:41)
3. Transitions From Persona To Object (Demo) / Circus Song AKA "Saturn Aligned With Mars" (06:35)
4. Mondrian Was A Liar (Demo) / Bam Bam And Other Assorted Onamonapeia (03:02)
5. Saint Matthew Returns To The Womb (Demo) / F.I.M.D. (Top Secret! Don't Ask!) (03:21)
6. C. Thomas Howell As The "Soul Man" (Demo) / C. Thomas Howell As The "Soul Man" (04:25)
7. Man The Ramparts (Demo) / Man The Ramparts For There Are Fair Maidens Aplenty (06:34)

Live In Seattle:
8. Saint Matthew Returns To The Womb (Live) (04:21)
9. Vietmam (Live) (03:14)

Live In Rennes, France:
10. Transitions From Persona To Object (Live) (06:02)
11. Hutton's Great Heat Engine (Live) (06:19)

Total Time 52:51

Line-up/Musicians


- Brian Cook / bass, backing vocals
- Tim Latona / drums
- David Knudson / guitar
- David Verellen / vocals

About this release

CD released 1999 on Hydra Head Records (HH666-041) / Relapse Records (RR 6440).

2LP released 1999 on Hydra Head Records (HH666-41).

Sides A, B and C are running on 33rpm, side D runs on 45rpm.

1st Press (1999)
100 A/B Army Green + C/D Olive Green
300 A/B Orange & White Marble + C/D Blue & White Marble
800 A/B/C/D Black

2LP reissued 2000 on Hydra Head Records (HH666-41), limited to 100 Army Green + Olive Green copies. Reissued 2007 limited to 500 Orange And White Marble + Orange And White Marble copies.

2CD deluxe edition released 28th September 2007 on Hydra Head Records (HH666-141).

CD1 recorded at Studio Litho, June 29-July 8, 1999. Mixed at Avast, July 11-15, 1999. Re-Mastered at RFI Mastering June 5, 2007.
Track 1-10 is unlisted. Manipulation and arrangement of 1-10 by Logic Probe, all sounds by Botch.

CD2 tracks 1 to 7 recorded live, straight to DAT at Studio Litho, May 31, 1999. Working titles are listed after the slash.
Tracks 8+9 recorded live April 21, 2001 at Graceland in Seattle. Tracks 10+11 recorded live November 11, 1999 in Rennes, France.

2LP / 2CD deluxe edition released 25th October 2011 on Hydra Head Records (HH666-41) / Hydra Head Records (HYH-041-1). 2LP released on White/Orange/Blue Haze (A+B) and Black/Orange/Blue Haze vinyl(C+D).

2LP coloured vinyl reissued 2013 on Hydra Head Records (HH666-041).

Thanks to Time Signature, Bosh66 for the updates

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SilentScream213
Botch’s second and final album carries many of the same strengths and weaknesses as their debut.

To start off, the pros: - The drumming. Lord, the drumming is fantastic. It’s varied, it’s technical, it’s metallic and aggressive, it’s capable of slowing down for sludgy, moody sections. Perfectly tows the line between serving the music and standing out. - The songs are long and varied, and cover a greater range of speeds than the debut. More prominent are the slower, sludgier sections, which give the music more room to breath. - The moments they lean towards Atmospheric Sludge Metal are the best. They manage to craft some harrowing atmospheres that actually carry some weight. The best example is the second half of “C. Thomas Howell as the ‘Soul Man’,” which is definitely their best song. The simple chords and double bass drumming at the end are a perfect climax that actually sounds passionate and memorable. Wish the band did more of this.

However, the cons: - Like the debut, it’s not very memorable. It has no hooks to speak of, neither in the vocals nor music, and that’s thanks to being very inharmonious. The songs are neat when they’re playing, but once they’re done, it’s very difficult to remember anything from them. (Swimming the Channel averts this, hence being easily their best song.) - The riffs are angular and dissonant. They don’t really… evoke anything, aside from anxiety. It’s not catchy, but it’s also not evil or anything like that. Just kind of uncomfortable, but not in an emotionally gripping way. - The songs are long and varied, [i]but[/i]… pretty much just swap between slow anxious, fast anxious, mathy anxious… it’s all somehow monotonous despite the variety in playing style. Like, the band can only play one feeling, which is manic discomfort. Which is cool if you like that, but it’d only work for me if the music and vocals/lyrics were more emotional. This isn’t; it’s very abstract both musically and conceptually, so the focus on anxious moods doesn’t evoke anything from me aside from discomfort. - The lyrics are too abstract to deride much meaning, which is unacceptable when vocals are screamed in this way. There’s thought, but no passion. The final track is basically ten minutes of them saying the same thing over and over. - The long Drum n’ Bass track closing the album is the worst track. Weak ending.

For these reasons I find the album good, but not great. I can understand the praise, especially among the genre. But I think this is more niche than the ratings lead on: I think you’d have to be pretty into this kind of music specifically for it to click just right.

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